Posted by boB on April 19, 2000, at 21:06:14
In reply to Re: Mind-control victems actually exist! , posted by Mark H. on April 18, 2000, at 21:05:20
Being at once rigorously open minded and viscously skeptical (and a likely candidate for an unscrupulous diagnosis of split personality disorder, complete with pseudonyms) the mind control site left me scratching my head.
I am astounded that a senior national medical officer would say that trained mind control agents, selected from prison populations, are already “in every apartment block.”
But there may be a shadow of truth there .... Cuz .... Bos .... Playa .... You see, my community “doesn’t have a gang problem.” Gang activity is supposed to be a secret, kept secret ostensibly for the public safey.
The site was lacking in precise details of how this mind control is supposed to work. Many of the suggested methods have been the subject of speculation and experimentation, some of it no doubt secret. (Operation artichoke?). The authors speculate on possible methods then say with unqualified authority, it is being done. That seems to me to be a mind control tactic in itself: one that offers authoritarian answers to suggestible individuals.
There are other conclusions that can be drawn, however, than the conclusion that the site is either the product of a delusional mind, or that the methods discussed are entirely real.
There can be no doubt that mind control is practiced in open all day every day in most cultures. Our entire system of language is a meta-type of mind control, and the subset of language called advertising is an overt, studied method of mind control. The study of influence goes back at least a century. Techniques of persuasion are informed by science and applied in the market and in the political arena. Even the pledge of allegiance, practiced in grade schools, is a form of mind control.
I am skeptical at people who jump at every opportunity to label speculation about mind control “delusion” and “conspiracy theories.” I have heard there are covert intelligence community “assets” in positions of influence at most major universities. Each “asset” serves narrow functions, while performing their regular job they quietly exert influence, and gather information for secret intelligence interests.
There are long-standing alliances of families and wealthy social classes who are interested in maintaining their power. The techniques they use might not immediately be recognized as mind control. The perpetuation of aggression, the spread of sociopathic behavior, the fueling of material desire can all serve to keep one class down and another on top. These things are maintained by subconscious beliefs - convictions - that serve to maintain the balance of power and wealth.
I have to repress a gag reflex when I contemplate how academies study the techniques of social control, in social science departments, in anthropology departments, in social psychology, political science, and media schools, yet the graduates of these same academies condemn less educated people who speculate about the methods of mind control.
Well, the preceding off-hand babble is intended as a preface to my comment that there is a battle being waged for the minds of mankind.
Here is my thesis ... my April 19, 2000 thesis posted from somewhere in the midwest I will not name out of respect to the families of the deceased, but that anyone at ECHELON or the University of Chicago with enough resources to read my ISP number can readily identify.
Sites such as the one mentioned above might be examples of the tactic of provocation. By creating bogus and implausible models of how mind control works, those uninformed individuals who accept the model will appear deluded. But instead, they are simply mislead students of a malicious teacher.
Consider right-wing extremism. It is driven in large part by factions within the military, political and intelligence communities. How did the militias of the 1990s gain prominence and recognition? The were created when Pres. Reagan, under his post Vietnam total force doctrine, required each state to compile a ConPlan for a State Defense Force. (Check it out - ask your state adjutant general) The State Defense Forces’ sworn cadres in Idaho cross-pollinated with the Aryan groups there; in Texas they removed their state approved insignia and became a private militia that chased Vietnamese fishing boats around the Gulf of Mexico and conducted ad-hoc border patrols; in the Carolinas these private citizens, sworn in by their governor, bought armored vehicles; in Michigan they revived a tradition from the labor wars of the early 20th century when state militias had moved in to reopen auto plants. The private militias spawned by the state defense forces considered themselves, not to be the anti-government forces the press made them out to be in 1995, but rather as training organizations preparing the nations men of the constitutionally and statutorily recognized unorganized militias. The new quasi-private militias were goaded on by the proprietary intelligence community asset - Soldier of Fortune magazine, as well as by a growing computer based network.
Maybe the authors of Californian’s web site really believe what they say, but somewhere behind the scenes someone is quietly encouraging them, steering them, providing them with resources, ideas and contacts. If you study, as occasionally I have, the literature of political provocation, you might agree that agitators work from the back of a crowd, inciting the more gullible and excitable front ranks, while they themselves are ready to disappear around the corner when the teargas and bullets start to fly.
Examples of provocation at work:
• Former Green Beret Randy Weaver, entrapped into selling a sawed-off shotgun to ATF agents who wanted to coerce him to infiltrate an Idaho racist group.
• ATF agents holding annual Good-Ole-Boy rallies in Alabama, where female agents were raped, black agents excluded and racial invectives openly traded.
• The Klan, in Greensbourough, North Carolina, infiltrated by a federal agents who, according to court records, provoked the brazen mid-day murder of four communist activists at a demonstration.
• An Egyptian army officer and long time CIA asset providing technical assistance for the World Trade Tow....wait, I won’t even go there - I want to use examples we can all agree on without too much incredulity. Lets try:
• The Politics of Heroin in South East Asia
• The Ollie North guns-for-drugs networks supporting the Contra’s terrorist army.Infiltration and provocation are the stock in trade of PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE.
So I have no trouble believing that sites such as the mind control site we see mentioned above might be a red herring, inspired, produced or promoted by parties who would rather the readers appear deluded less they start to think for themselves and learn how to resist real mind control tactics.
Well, I don’t go around talking about implants in my butt, but I have seen and held some injectable subcutaneous transponders used to identify expensive livestock. And last time I saw a sleek black NOTAR helicopter, I followed it to the airport and identified the pilot as a local merchant. But I am pretty well aware that the DEA is flying some unmarked black surveillance choppers based in Kentucky and I have seen some larger military birds doing all-day, high-altitude patterns over mid-western towns. . Tracking cocaine traffic, I suppose. That and meth. Does that make me deluded?
Hey, I read a great book by Greg Bear, a wonderful speculative science fiction writer, in which psychological data was collected and tracked in a mega-computer center. Hmm. Interesting concept. I am neither paranoid or deluded, I am curious.
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