Posted by Mark H. on April 18, 2000, at 21:05:20
In reply to Mind-control victems actually exist! , posted by Californian on April 18, 2000, at 2:32:20
I'm struggling with how to respond to this interesting referral to the "more than survivors" site, and its sub-site, the "mind control forum," which seem to exist to network, indulge and reinforce the delusions of individuals who are profoundly psychotic yet who are able to discuss their experiences with considerable lucidity and draw conclusions from those experiences which are apparently accepted as reasonable by fellow participants.
For the moment, at least, I assume yours was not a cynical or humorous referral, which suggests that you, too, may be one of the victims to which you refer.
If such is the case, what is the appropriate support to offer you? Is it helpful to attempt to impose a majority opinion of reality on you, in order that you might take medicine that will make your world seem more like ours? That seems to be the prevailing belief today.
After spending some time reading the material you pointed to, I believe Mr. Ed Light, for instance, is sincere about claims of being bombarded with mind-control beams by laser-planes that are part of a top-secret US military project based in either North Dakota or Dade County, Florida, which exists primarily to control his mind, shrink his brain and otherwise hurt him, because he was opposed to the war in Viet Nam.
I can appreciate how distressing it must be to see dirty fog around airplanes that say, "Bust me! I'm FBI" and to have provocateurs appear almost daily in the guise of ordinary people who are themselves unknowingly mind-controlled.
The existence of a network of people sharing similar experiences and a common vocabulary for various phenomena that most people do not perceive or experience is not unique (here we are at Psycho-Babble, after all).
Most people have only the most superficial understanding, if any at all, of depression, obsessive-compulsive syndromes, severe anxiety, attention-deficit or any of the other disorders that we discuss among ourselves with a sense of knowing and even authority, deriving considerable comfort from our shared observations.
What if our diseases were not only as comparatively rare as florid schizophrenia but also caused us to have similar delusions, of which others -- especially our health care providers -- felt obliged to disabuse us? Would we consider such arguments supportive or not?
The Buddhist belief is that our "normal" existence is a dream, a samsaric illusion from which we can ultimately awaken and be free. The path of the Boddhisattva is to help all beings eventually waken from this dream.
The difference between the average person living in a city and working in a stressful but basically meaningless job, commuting home in an expensive and wasteful automobile to a "neighborhood" of strangers in order to huddle with a couple of family members in a dwelling separate and safeguarded from anyone else, eating food from a store and watching electronic images of violence and heightened emotional drama driven by commercialism as "family actitivities," falling into bed exhausted only to start the whole thing over the next day -- and a floridly delusional paranoid psychotic living in a fantasy world created by an organically diseased brain and involving vast conspiracies of secret, high-placed people and machines that exist solely for the purpose of making things difficult for a tiny handful of economically dysfunctional individuals -- is small indeed, we are told, to those who have in fact awakened.
So what is the correct approach? What will help you? Would you like to be validated -- in which case, you may only find genuine support on that other forum -- or do you want others, who suffer in their own ways, to talk you out of your fears, because we don't share or experience them?
I don't know what to do except to wish you well.
Mark H.
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