Posted by dj on February 19, 2000, at 0:56:07
In reply to Re: Reoccuring Dreams ... guilt and shame, posted by bob on February 17, 2000, at 16:58:24
Like all theories, reality may be a mix of the two and more. What I like about J&B's work is that they draw from their own experiences and observations in 25 years or so of workshops, relationship(s) and some solid traning in both eastern and western theories about phyical and emotional health. And their theories are demonstrated in amazing ways in their workshops.
In reflection, as I told my naturopath today, my work with them was some of the best healing work I've done in the past year and years. And I've done lots from lots of points of views. They had the most integrity and compassion in their words and actions, and they were damm funny too.
However, as I noted elsewhere the acupuncture and bodywork I've had done has helped significantly as I have regained both physical and mental agility. Choosing good and compassionate professionals made a difference, as well as the health system in BC which covers up to 12 sessions of chiro. and massage per year, as well as naturopathy sessions, MDs and psychs., though the last two are the least effective of the lot in my experience.
As to J&B's distinctions between guilt vs shame. They make perfect sense to me, having experienced the difference once I got out of my head and back into my body and emotions (ie. -- energy in motion). And the feedback I'm getting from folks who know me is pretty positive as my resilience, curiosity, passion and humour have rebounded as I've integrated much of my learnings, including bits and pieces I've gleaned from exchanges here in babbleland.
> dj, that's an interesting perspective on guilt and shame ... I disagree substantially with it, but its interesting nonetheless.
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> As an alternative, I'll put forward the attributional view of things.
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