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Posted by slugdoo on August 12, 2007, at 16:49:35
I don't know much about her except she had a best selling book, The Gifted Child. But I got a book from the libray, I thought it was old, but it is only a couple years old called "The Body Never Lies".
Well I have only read a little bit, but I am like WOW, and WOW, and WOW, the stuff she says SO fits in with what I feel. From pretending the stuff didn't happen to survive , to dealing with people who belive we should always "Honor thy parents".
Then she said something along the lines that in order for a T to be the most effective and the best in child abuse cases, they almost have had to experience it themselves, to really know what it feels like. I am like wow, because I think my old T was brought up with a silver spoon and had great parents, so I think athough he has worked with abused children a lot, and it great with kids, and maybe he has heard everything, and maybe he has an idea of what it is like for that kind of survior, I still feel he doesn't really KNOW . Thank goodness most people don't.
Sometimes I wonder will I be a good T , with all the stuff that happened to me, but according to Alice Miller, surviving my own childhood abuse, will be an asset. I would add, as long as I work that stuff out, which she also says is important.
I can't wait to read more. I also like how she wrote about child abuse victims, the ones that rise above it, are very creative. She used philophers and poets as examples and did research on them. She talks about it in her book. When she brought up the fall of Sadam, then I knew the book was kinda new.
Posted by TherapyGirl on August 12, 2007, at 18:36:15
In reply to Alice Miller? child abuse trigger, posted by slugdoo on August 12, 2007, at 16:49:35
This is very interesting, SD. I've put it in my Amazon cart and will be purchasing it soon.
I've been reading a book about healing fibroids naturally and there is an interesting chapter on the mind-body connection. One of the things it says is:
"Eastern healers link gynecological dysfunction, including fibroids, to disturbances in what is known as second chakra energy. The second chakra corresponds to the second nerve plexus from the bottom of the spine. The human experience, issues, and emotions associated with the second chakra include our relationships to money, power, people, jobs, creativity and sexuality. The second chakra also relates to issues of abuse. In fact, most experts are convinced of the connection between sexual abuse and the development of fibroids. A recent study that was reported in a medical-peer-review journal identified an association between chronic pelvic pain and unresolved issues related to past sexual abuse. Childhood abuse does not have to be sexual. Emotional abuse and other types of physical abuse can also lead to energy stagnation in the pelvic area, the part of the body governed by the second chakra. I have noted that many of my patients who suffer from fibroids and other chronic gynecological ailments are also plagued with second-chakra-related emotional issues."
I'm going to have to do a lot more work on this, huh?
Thanks for sharing.
Posted by slugdoo on August 12, 2007, at 18:56:42
In reply to Re: Alice Miller? child abuse trigger » slugdoo, posted by TherapyGirl on August 12, 2007, at 18:36:15
This is interesting TG,
In yoga we do special breathing and chants for each of the chakras. I don't know if it is helping but I found 2 weeks ago, after I did the EMDR again and all that nasty stuff got stirred up. Then when we did our Ohms at the end of yoga. I would start and then my voice got stuck. I asked my friend who is the yoga instructer who knows this stuff about what it could mean. Well then she asked me where did I feel the energy stop. Well I thought, and I said my chest. She said that is the chakras of the heart. She told me I might be holding a lot of pain in my heart, maybe my DH. I am like wow, and she didn't even know about the EMDR sesion yet. so the pain could be from as a child too.
Posted by TherapyGirl on August 12, 2007, at 20:36:11
In reply to Re: Alice Miller? child abuse trigger » TherapyGirl, posted by slugdoo on August 12, 2007, at 18:56:42
Very, very interesting.
I've thought about doing yoga. Has it been pretty easy for you to pick it up? I'm such a klutz and I worry that I'll look stupid in front of everybody.
Posted by slugdoo on August 12, 2007, at 21:10:14
In reply to Re: Alice Miller? child abuse trigger » slugdoo, posted by TherapyGirl on August 12, 2007, at 20:36:11
Well for me, I had a very good instructor, she does yoga at your current level. Usually if you are doing yoga correctly, you aren't concerned with others around you. Where I practice is a dim lit room, and that helps some. Everybody's body is different, so some moves are easier for some than others and your body changes the more you do it. I am a bit of a clutz myself, but I am learning better balance from yoga. But yoga has given me much more than that. I feel after an hour of yoga, I am so relaxed, it feels like I had a massage. But the effects last longer because you learn to relax yourself instead of someone "doing" something to you. I love it.
Posted by slugdoo on August 12, 2007, at 21:20:10
In reply to Re: Alice Miller? child abuse trigger » slugdoo, posted by TherapyGirl on August 12, 2007, at 20:36:11
I guess another thing I wanted to add, was yoga is about self acceptance. We are taught not to judge ourselves, some days the moves happen easier than others, we are taught to just accept where we are today.
But don't do like I did before I went to first class. I bought a Yoga Journal to find out more about yoga. Well after I saw the "perfect bodies" doing almost impossible poses , I was completely discouraged. I have been practicing yoga for almost 2 years on and off, and I still don't look like those people, and I can't do some of those advanced moves. LOL Those models are like the Tiger Woods of golf!
Posted by arora on August 18, 2007, at 16:36:00
In reply to Re: Alice Miller? child abuse trigger » TherapyGirl, posted by slugdoo on August 12, 2007, at 18:56:42
> This is interesting TG,
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> In yoga we do special breathing and chants for each of the chakras. I don't know if it is helping but I found 2 weeks ago, after I did the EMDR again and all that nasty stuff got stirred up. Then when we did our Ohms at the end of yoga. I would start and then my voice got stuck. I asked my friend who is the yoga instructer who knows this stuff about what it could mean. Well then she asked me where did I feel the energy stop. Well I thought, and I said my chest. She said that is the chakras of the heart. She told me I might be holding a lot of pain in my heart, maybe my DH. I am like wow, and she didn't even know about the EMDR sesion yet. so the pain could be from as a child too.I think the chakras are fascinating- I've been trying to study about this sort of thing on my own, (haven't been able to find a good yoga class near to me).
I try and meditate, and have found when I try and breathe into certain chakras, my breath gets stuck below the heart level, too- it just doesn't want to go any further.
It's something I'm working on- blockages in the chakras are indications of things that we are holding onto from the past, and they can cause health problems, too... Alice Miller mentions that in her book; that childhood experiences if repressed can cause illnesses to develop later in adulthood.arora
Posted by TherapyGirl on August 18, 2007, at 20:00:39
In reply to Re: Alice Miller? child abuse trigger, posted by arora on August 18, 2007, at 16:36:00
It is interesting, isn't it? And a little disheartening. As I told my T, it's hard to believe that stuff from my childhood could still be affecting me at this level after working on it for 22 years. She said it's all a process. That I work on something and it gets better and I stabilize and then after a while, something else comes up and I work on that, etc., etc. It's exhausting, though.
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