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Posted by justyourlaugh on March 22, 2006, at 10:29:57
what if..
a post was uncivil in more than 1 way...
do not post + vile = would one be blocked with out pbc?
Posted by Dinah on March 22, 2006, at 10:35:26
In reply to blocking question., posted by justyourlaugh on March 22, 2006, at 10:29:57
Not if it was the first uncivil post ever. You always get one PBC.
Posted by special_k on March 22, 2006, at 17:12:38
In reply to Re: blocking question. » justyourlaugh, posted by Dinah on March 22, 2006, at 10:35:26
surely there would be exceptions?
does hate speech really only get a pbc first pop?
Posted by muffled on March 22, 2006, at 20:13:44
In reply to Re: blocking question. » justyourlaugh, posted by Dinah on March 22, 2006, at 10:35:26
My first thing was a block, so thats not true. Shocked me it did. Was real bad at the time. I'm mostly over it now. Still feel sorta like a lab rat though......
Muffled
Posted by Dinah on March 22, 2006, at 22:43:15
In reply to Re: blocking question. » Dinah, posted by muffled on March 22, 2006, at 20:13:44
I'm sure you must have gotten a PBC somewhere along the line. Or maybe I had warned you? and Dr. Bob considered that official?
I can't recall the circumstances offhand.
Posted by AuntieMel on March 23, 2006, at 9:23:30
In reply to Re: blocking question. » justyourlaugh, posted by Dinah on March 22, 2006, at 10:35:26
But many have been summarily blocked for violating a DNP, right?
Posted by Dinah on March 23, 2006, at 9:58:07
In reply to Re: blocking question. » Dinah, posted by AuntieMel on March 23, 2006, at 9:23:30
Not to my knowledge.
Of course, the PBC might have been years earlier on a different topic.
Posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 10:00:26
In reply to Re: blocking question. » muffled, posted by Dinah on March 22, 2006, at 22:43:15
Not that I recall, I just recall being really, really shocked cuz I hadn't really read the rules very well, and had never posted ANYwhere before, and didn't know about how such a thing could happen.
It really was a very serious bummer. Bad.
Anyhow, I'm over it now.
Sort of.
I think.
:-(
muffled
Posted by 10derHeart on March 23, 2006, at 19:10:47
In reply to Re: blocking question. » muffled, posted by Dinah on March 22, 2006, at 22:43:15
It was on Writing. In October.
Muffled posted a naughty word without the asterisk and Dr. Bob said because she had auto-asterisking turned off, he was blocking her for a week.
I guess that's right as the FAQ says you are responsible if you don't leave it turned on. It's just so tough when people are new, and there is a *lot* of stuff in the FAQ, perhaps hard to absorb right away, all at once. And especially when you don't fully realize what leads to what and then it actually happens to you...
((muffy)) hope you didn't read this and relive it...long in the past now, remember...
Posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 19:36:37
In reply to Re: blocking question » Dinah, posted by 10derHeart on March 23, 2006, at 19:10:47
Yea, I vaguely remember thinking I was screwing up, but I really didn't have a clue that the results would be so devastating to me. That they would be so sudden and shocking and severe, over something seemingly trivial. I thot the writing board would be more freedom to words.
I was wrong.
Found out when I tried to post and it said I was blocked and I didn't understand.
Then I finally figgered out on writing.
And I couldn't babble mail(not sure I knew how yet).
I couldn't say I was sorry.
Just got blasted and ostracised.
Then I finally figgered I could e-mail Dr. Bob.
Don't remember what I said or he said.I was just bad.
Bad, bad, bad.
I'm good at that.
Inside me is bad and thats why I got blocked.
Cuz I was bad.
But it really, really hurt.
Couldn't even talk to my friends anyhow, no recourse, banished in my disgustingness. Thats how I felt.
Just found friends to share. Gone.
Was the way it is, was, and I hope will NOT be.
Anyhow
I'm over it....
Ya right.....
sh*t anyways.
YA BOB.....BLOCKS F*CKING HURT AND I DON"T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND HOW FREAKING MUCH.
Sorry AGAIN.
Muffled
Posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 20:29:30
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger-emotion)****, posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 19:36:37
((((muffled))))
yeah i remember that one. i was a bit surprised you got a week for that. i would have thought a warning...
(yeah i know you had been warned before - but it is common for people to think they have more freedom to swear over on writing. yeah so it says otherwise at the top of the page but how many read that? i was here for a long time before i did...)
yeah muffled. i understand how you feel about that.
i do.:-(
i think some blocks are too harsh :-(
blocks where warnings would be more appropriate...
lengthy blocks where shorter ones would be more appropriate.i do.
Posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 20:50:57
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger-emotion)****, posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 19:36:37
((((muffled))))
My first blocking was the worse. I was crying uncontrollably in real life for several days. I cried on the bus and everything. I was really upset afterwards too. It was a really bad time already and the block just made it worse. I bought a rope and everything.
Dr. Bob, I think you should include that bit about seeking help in real life when in crisis for people's first blocks. Blocks are a real shock the first time.
:-(
I'm sad/angry I went through such a horrible time. I was fairly new too, so people didn't care about my blocking. It was horrible. :-( I felt so alone. I attached to this place very early.
Dr. Bob, you should provide that crisis link thingie for first time blocks. Some people, like me and Muffled react very badly to our first blocking. It's not such a hard thing to do to show some caring, I think it's worth doing.
Deneb*
Posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 21:13:57
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger****, posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 20:50:57
I think it is hard because some people attach to babble and others don't really. some people post a lot to babble (everyday) and others don't really.
if you have someone who posts maybe 2 posts per week...
then giving them a one week block is different to if you have someone who posts maybe 7 posts per day and you give them a one week block.i don't know..
but some people really do feel very hurt...
and re getting help in real life... i think that is a nice idea. especially on a first block.
and i like the bit you have added too about it not meaning that you don't like people.
i mean... it is a lot hard to beleive when you have just been blocked but i tihnk it is nicer to say it than not.but none of that changes the hurt :-(
and some people feel really very :-(
and they didn't mean to hurt anybody :-(and a one day block...
might do it.
:-(
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2006, at 21:18:42
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger****, posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 20:50:57
interesting..
for me..i think a crisis link attached with a block would be very insulting to some..
Posted by JahL on March 23, 2006, at 21:50:42
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger-emotion)****, posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 19:36:37
> YA BOB.....BLOCKS F*CKING HURT AND I DON"T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND HOW FREAKING MUCH.
Me and Bob are cool BUT....
....I agree that he appears not to fully appreciate the distress his often unnecessarily long blocks cause. I'm sure Bob is aware that he sometimes comes across as being rather 'detached', but then I guess the running of a board like demands he be that way (sorry Bob, is it rude to talk about you like this?).
I've never been blocked (to my genuine surprise) and it wouldn't bother me if I was - BUT for some people this place is substitute therapy - rightly or wrongly - and to have that taken away so suddenly, and often for so little...I imagine it can be a big deal.
Imagine being 'uncivil' to your therapist and she tells you to b*gger off for 6 weeks...
Two themes emerge from all of the 'block'-related posts I've read; SENSE OF PROPORTION and APPLICATION OF COMMON SENSE. So blocks aren't the problem, just how they are applied.
FWIW I don't think blocks of more than 2 weeks serve any purpose. I'm not going to name drop, but when certain posters are sent into oblivion for seemingly minor infractions, the board as a whole loses out. This is a more important consideration IMO than the principle of punishment (which is all blocks are).
If someone is clearly just out to disrupt the board then they should be banned, period, as is the way on most other sites.
I'm not having a pop at Bob - I've got plenty of respect for the fella - I just thought I'd offer the opinion of someone who's been around long enough to remember when the good doctor actually answered medical questions himself!
J.
Posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 21:54:10
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger-emotion)****, posted by JahL on March 23, 2006, at 21:50:42
Posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 22:10:38
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger-emotion)****, posted by JahL on March 23, 2006, at 21:50:42
> > YA BOB.....BLOCKS F*CKING HURT AND I DON"T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND HOW FREAKING MUCH.
>
> Me and Bob are cool BUT....***good! :-)
>
> ....I agree that he appears not to fully appreciate the distress his often unnecessarily long blocks cause. I'm sure Bob is aware that he sometimes comes across as being rather 'detached', but then I guess the running of a board like demands he be that way (sorry Bob, is it rude to talk about you like this?).***sounds good to me
>
> I've never been blocked (to my genuine surprise) and it wouldn't bother me if I was - BUT for some people this place is substitute therapy - rightly or wrongly - and to have that taken away so suddenly, and often for so little...I imagine it can be a big deal.***this however I don't agree with. I do goto therapy. I use this as a place where I am accepted as I am, warts and all as they say.
I also derive alot of comfort that I am not alone in the way I feel about things, and that makes me feel much less stupid and weird.
I can practice 'talking' to people bout stuff in a safe
way. (unless I get blocked of course)
People here can help me feel better when I start to loop out.
I have learned lots.
It is not a replacement for therapy for me. But yes, perhaps it complements it.
Its a big deal to many cuz it triggers old feelings in us. Bad feelings. Right or wrong thats the way it is. This IS a mental health site after all........
>
> Imagine being 'uncivil' to your therapist and she tells you to b*gger off for 6 weeks...****thats EXACTLY it. This is a place of communication. Important communication for some of us. Blocking is huge for those of us that use this place more (as spec.k said.)
>
> Two themes emerge from all of the 'block'-related posts I've read; SENSE OF PROPORTION and APPLICATION OF COMMON SENSE. So blocks aren't the problem, just how they are applied.***feelings are subjective. So sense of proportion is different to all.
However rules are more objective, and I think they are harsh here.(However, that being said, I think Bob HAS eased up some)
>
> FWIW I don't think blocks of more than 2 weeks serve any purpose. I'm not going to name drop, but when certain posters are sent into oblivion for seemingly minor infractions, the board as a whole loses out. This is a more important consideration IMO than the principle of punishment (which is all blocks are).***COMPLETELY agree with you there.
>
> If someone is clearly just out to disrupt the board then they should be banned, period, as is the way on most other sites.***that might be a hard one to deal with at times on this site. Cuz sometimes a person may not be setting out to disrupt the board, they may just be having a crisis...and they should be allowed back I think in such a instance.
>
> I'm not having a pop at Bob - I've got plenty of respect for the fella - I just thought I'd offer the opinion of someone who's been around long enough to remember when the good doctor actually answered medical questions himself!
>
**Wow, you been around awhile!!!! Thanks for giving your input, its appreciated.
See ya,
Muffled
Posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 22:10:38
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger-emotion)****, posted by JahL on March 23, 2006, at 21:50:42
> ....I agree that he appears not to fully appreciate the distress his often unnecessarily long blocks cause. I'm sure Bob is aware that he sometimes comes across as being rather 'detached', but then I guess the running of a board like demands he be that way
I agree that he doesn't seem to fully appreciate too. Maybe it is just because he does (intentionally i guess) come across as being relatively objective and detached... but also... i don't think he understands how much they hurt :-(
but then he has said the odd thing before about how blocks aren't so much about trying to punish the person who is blocked (in which case it would seem appropriate to tihnk about whether the punishment is appropriate to the person, say) as they are about protecting the community from repeat offences. but even then... :-( i don't know that he appreciates how much they can hurt.
i think that if he did appreciate... he wouldn't block people for so long / for such minor infractions. i really don't think he would.
not if he really understood how much they hurt :-(
> I've never been blocked (to my genuine surprise) and it wouldn't bother me if I wasi didn't think it would bother me either... until it happened to me :-( well... for a while i didn't think it would bother me... and i didnt think it would happen to me. and then it did. and it hurt so much. :-(
> - BUT for some people this place is substitute therapy - rightly or wrongly - and to have that taken away so suddenly, and often for so little...I imagine it can be a big deal.
yup.
> Imagine being 'uncivil' to your therapist and she tells you to b*gger off for 6 weeks...yup :-(
but then... bob goes easier on people being uncivil to him... worst blockings for offences against other posters. but still... i think other posters who might be hurting would benefit more from a genuine apology than the knowledge teh person has been blocked (unless they really did go off in the fairly much everyone agrees that that person should be blocked sense)
> Two themes emerge from all of the 'block'-related posts I've read; SENSE OF PROPORTION and APPLICATION OF COMMON SENSE. So blocks aren't the problem, just how they are applied.yep.
> FWIW I don't think blocks of more than 2 weeks serve any purpose.well... hate speech. but i think that is fairly rare...
> I'm not going to name drop, but when certain posters are sent into oblivion for seemingly minor infractions, the board as a whole loses out. This is a more important consideration IMO than the principle of punishment (which is all blocks are).
:-(
yeah. and other peoples on the board get scared. that it will happen to them :-( real scared :-(> If someone is clearly just out to disrupt the board then they should be banned, period, as is the way on most other sites.
yeah... or the current blocking thing could come into play. i have some sympathy for the notion that people who come to a mental healt h site might have... episodes.
Posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 22:28:43
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger**** » Deneb, posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2006, at 21:18:42
> interesting..
> for me..i think a crisis link attached with a block would be very insulting to some..
>Really? That never occurred to me. I just think whether or not the crisis links are useful, they show caring to the person who may be upset over the block and that's important.
I also think saying that the block is not personal is very important.
:-( Talking about this is making me upset. I don't know if I'm ever going to get over that experience of getting blocked, especially the first time. I'm being a cry baby. :-(
I don't know how to get over it. I just have to push it out of my mind. Maybe I do have a sort of PTSD, as silly as it sounds.
I think to get over it I need Dr. Bob to tell me he doesn't want me hurt, many times. Maybe seeing him in person will help. I need to know that he's a normal human being with normal human emotions who doesn't wish harm on other people.
Deneb*
Posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 22:32:43
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger****, posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 22:28:43
> :-( Talking about this is making me upset.:-(
me too> I don't know if I'm ever going to get over that experience of getting blocked, especially the first time. I'm being a cry baby. :-
:-(
me too> I think to get over it I need Dr. Bob to tell me he doesn't want me hurt, many times.
i don't think that will help.
why?
cause he has said it before... a few times already. after a while the 'magic words' wear off
:-(
but i in a bad mood sorry
Posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 22:35:55
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger**** » Deneb, posted by special_k on March 23, 2006, at 22:32:43
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2006, at 23:11:44
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger****, posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 22:28:43
d..
the first " please dont think i hate you" but you are blocked. was the first of its kind...to you..
it was special....
..
i asked for something small..so small..no one would even notice.but i.
they have no idea how it cut me...i read that post every day..it was not horrid enough..
i am not hurt enough..
tread killer i am because i have been tarnished..
trashed and tossed..
Posted by muffled on March 23, 2006, at 23:17:48
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger**** » Deneb, posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2006, at 23:11:44
i asked for something small..so small..no one would even notice.but i.
they have no idea how it cut me...i read that post every day..it was not horrid enough..
i am not hurt enough..
tread killer i am because i have been tarnished..
trashed and tossed..
***what was that referring to? Something D. said or how you feel? Either way its sad. :-(
All are welcome here (as long as they civil!! Heh, heh!!!!)
Hope alls well Jyl?
Muffled
Posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 23:30:03
In reply to Re: blocking question****Trigger**** » Deneb, posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2006, at 23:11:44
> d..
> the first " please dont think i hate you" but you are blocked. was the first of its kind...to you..
> it was special....Yeah, it was special, but I guess someone had to be first.
> ..
> i asked for something small..so small..no one would even notice.but i.
> they have no idea how it cut me...i read that post every day..it was not horrid enough..
> i am not hurt enough..
> tread killer i am because i have been tarnished..
> trashed and tossed..I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand you. You made a request and it wasn't met?
(((((jyl)))))
Deneb*
Posted by justyourlaugh on March 23, 2006, at 23:40:42
In reply to Re: blocking question, posted by Deneb on March 23, 2006, at 23:30:03
..
i asked for a post to be deleted..it was well in my right..and in the "rules"..but..it was viewed not "grossly" enough..
i can not paste it to you..
but i read it daily.
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