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Posted by San Diegan on March 19, 2006, at 9:34:46
In reply to Please be sensitive » San Diegan, posted by gardenergirl on March 17, 2006, at 22:50:46
Puh leeze!
Sorry, my sensitivity meter is set to "reasonable" not "sickeningly politically correct."
Please forgive me.
Posted by gardenergirl on March 19, 2006, at 9:34:46
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » gardenergirl, posted by San Diegan on March 17, 2006, at 22:52:33
> Puh leeze!
>
> Sorry, my sensitivity meter is set to "reasonable" not "sickeningly politically correct."
>
> Please forgive me.Thanks. Just a thought: It might be helpful if you could adjust your "sensitivity meter" to be more in line with the site guidelines. Of course not everyone chooses to or is able to do so.
gg
>
Posted by San Diegan on March 19, 2006, at 9:34:46
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » San Diegan, posted by gardenergirl on March 17, 2006, at 23:04:08
Whatever. If the "site guidelines" are that idiotic, I'm out of here.
Nazi f*ck.
bye.
Posted by gardenergirl on March 19, 2006, at 9:34:46
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » gardenergirl, posted by San Diegan on March 17, 2006, at 23:05:52
> Whatever. If the "site guidelines" are that idiotic, I'm out of here.
At least for a week...
>Nazi f*ck.
I asked you to be sensitive and provided you with a link to the site guidelines. Now I am blocking you from posting for one week due to the post this is in reply to.
As moderator, Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy actions, and he may decide differently. Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should be directed to Admin and should of course themselves be civil.
Regards,
gg acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by BIGDaddyachmed69 on March 19, 2006, at 9:34:46
In reply to Blocked for one week » San Diegan, posted by gardenergirl on March 17, 2006, at 23:18:39
Hey gg..you can redirect my post, I know this message board is for people who have questions about their meds and want to get better. We all need support, and when individuals like the one you just blocked for a week disses us...you gotta remember we're all having a tough time right now. Comments like that could push someone over the edge. I just wanted to say you handled the situation entirely appropriately, keep up the good work.
> > Whatever. If the "site guidelines" are that idiotic, I'm out of here.
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> At least for a week...
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> >Nazi f*ck.
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> I asked you to be sensitive and provided you with a link to the site guidelines. Now I am blocking you from posting for one week due to the post this is in reply to.
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> As moderator, Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy actions, and he may decide differently. Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should be directed to Admin and should of course themselves be civil.
>
> Regards,
> gg acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
>
>
>
Posted by sd impostor on March 19, 2006, at 10:08:58
In reply to Blocked for one week » San Diegan, posted by gardenergirl on March 17, 2006, at 23:18:39
I wasn't dissing the people on here, just the incredibly inane "policy." It could include almost anything.
I said I was leaving, yet you decided to be juvenile and "block me" for a week. Do you feel powerful and self-righteous now? Boo Hoo I'm so hurt. Grow up. If you can't withstand the incredibly mild comments of my original post, you have big problems and shouldn't be in society.
When mild, innocuous humor like that is considered "insensitive" I am almost tempted to watch Fox news or listen to Sean Hannity!
What morons, no wonder you post here year after year instead of getting a life.
Bye now!
Posted by gardenergirl on March 19, 2006, at 10:12:04
In reply to Re: Blocked for one week, posted by sd impostor on March 18, 2006, at 0:05:36
When you're blocked, you're not supposed to post, so I'm doubling your block as per the site policy.
Regards,
gg acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on March 19, 2006, at 10:12:04
In reply to Re: Blocked for one week » gardenergirl, posted by BIGDaddyachmed69 on March 17, 2006, at 23:39:34
> and when individuals like the one you just blocked for a week disses us..
BIGDaddyachmed69,
I definitely appreciate the support and it's good to see you back on the boards. But I also need to ask you to please be civil and not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, even in supporting others. As Dr. Bob says, "Two wrongs don't make a right."
And now the standard stuff:
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civilFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should be directed to Admin and should of course themselves be civil.
Regards,
gg
Posted by BIGDaddyachmed69 on March 19, 2006, at 10:12:05
In reply to Please be civil » BIGDaddyachmed69, posted by gardenergirl on March 18, 2006, at 0:50:34
I apologize and will be more careful with my choice of words in the future.
> > and when individuals like the one you just blocked for a week disses us..
>
> BIGDaddyachmed69,
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> I definitely appreciate the support and it's good to see you back on the boards. But I also need to ask you to please be civil and not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, even in supporting others. As Dr. Bob says, "Two wrongs don't make a right."
>
> And now the standard stuff:
> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>
> Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should be directed to Admin and should of course themselves be civil.
>
> Regards,
> gg
>
>
Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 19, 2006, at 10:12:05
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » San Diegan, posted by gardenergirl on March 17, 2006, at 23:04:08
>Thanks. Just a thought: It might be helpful if you could adjust your "sensitivity meter" to be more in line with the site guidelines. Of course not everyone chooses to or is able to do so.
This should probably be posted on Admin, but I just couldn't help noticing how different you and Auntiemel are with the job of being a deputy with issuing warnings Please be sensitive, civil etc and the site guildlines..
It must be a difficult job, when you're a deputy and a poster with emotional attachment etc.
~
Posted by gardenergirl on March 19, 2006, at 10:12:05
In reply to Re: Please be civil » gardenergirl, posted by BIGDaddyachmed69 on March 18, 2006, at 5:37:30
Posted by yxibow on March 19, 2006, at 10:12:05
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive, posted by Sobriquet Style on March 18, 2006, at 7:34:27
> >Thanks. Just a thought: It might be helpful if you could adjust your "sensitivity meter" to be more in line with the site guidelines. Of course not everyone chooses to or is able to do so.
>
> This should probably be posted on Admin, but I just couldn't help noticing how different you and Auntiemel are with the job of being a deputy with issuing warnings Please be sensitive, civil etc and the site guildlines..
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> It must be a difficult job, when you're a deputy and a poster with emotional attachment etc.
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> ~
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>
I would add that after being on this board for a while and noticing things, being a deputy and a poster to me seems a conflict of interest, also should be on the admin board -- it just doesn't make sense to me, and I'm being straightforward.And don't flame me for this but setting aside the fowl comment of San Diegan (I happen to be Jewish), there seems to be an increase in what I would agreee and describe as overly politically correct or bending over backwards for lack of a better term, such as the recent censuring of ed_uk.
There are people who are definately in need of psychiatric help on here who have substandard care or lack of access and are fragile, but the fine line seems to be getting finer in what can be uttered.
If we all gathered in a group help session with a moderator, things in writing would be taken much differently. Sometimes humour is appropriate. Laughter is a curative at times, but I'm not saying that one should be hurtful or express Schadenfreude.
Just an opinion, I don't run things here but I think there needs to be some changes. If I happen to say f* you in my psychiatrist's office, which I wouldn't particularly do, I'm not kicked out for the duration. After all I'm paying. But maybe that's my psychiatrist.
We all are playing armchair psychiatrists on here to an extent -- something that can be fascinating; something that can be sometimes factually wrong.. sometimes incredible pearls of wisdom. I don't know.. I could go on. And in this sea of people on their lazy-boys, sometimes there's a disagreement. Its only human.
Tidings
-- Jay
Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 19, 2006, at 10:12:05
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » Sobriquet Style, posted by yxibow on March 19, 2006, at 3:23:40
>I would add that after being on this board for a while and noticing things, being a deputy and a poster to me seems a conflict of interest, also should be on the admin board -- it just doesn't make sense to me, and I'm being straightforward.
An example could be if you're a poster (and deputy,) as a poster you may have close relationships with other posters on the boards, who you consider to be your friends. Then you have other posters who may not be considered your friends eg. you have never interacted with them or felt that you wanted to reply, perhaps never read their posts. If one of your friends say something you may laugh and joke along with them. If another poster says a similar thing and you don't like the format in which its expressed and perhaps its torwards a friend, you can effectively warn, as a deputy, then interact as a poster and then block, as a deputy.
If its one of your friends torward a poster you may choose not to warn in the first place. If I was a deputy I'd feel that was a difficult job if that example came into play.
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Posted by verne on March 19, 2006, at 12:46:10
In reply to Re: Blocked for one week, posted by sd impostor on March 18, 2006, at 0:05:36
I realize I don't have much of a life but I found the "get a life" comment exceedingly painful.
verne
Posted by yxibow on March 19, 2006, at 14:37:46
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive, posted by Sobriquet Style on March 19, 2006, at 7:37:37
> An example could be if you're a poster (and deputy,) as a poster you may have close relationships with other posters on the boards, who you consider to be your friends. Then you have other posters who may not be considered your friends eg. you have never interacted with them or felt that you wanted to reply, perhaps never read their posts. If one of your friends say something you may laugh and joke along with them. If another poster says a similar thing and you don't like the format in which its expressed and perhaps its torwards a friend, you can effectively warn, as a deputy, then interact as a poster and then block, as a deputy.
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Which all the more adds to my comments that there should be a separation of powers. Except on ER, a doctor doesn't have sex with their patients and coworkers, and then becomes a doctor, and then goes back, etc. I'm giving an extreme example.
"Then you have other posters who may not be considered your friends" continues the elitist nature of deputies on this board and is getting to the crux of what I am referring to. "Newbies" and "oldtimers." I guess I must be a newbie, even though I've hung around this board for quite a while because I didn't even get a redirect.
No, this board shouldn't be total anarchy, I agree there should be some moderation, but just because someone feels hurt for a moment doesn't mean big brother mommy and daddy should go spank the poster repeatedly. People do get hurt and I'll repeat it again, you can't please all the people all the time. Chances for apologies should be more given, as opposed to fhwap! - byebye.
And then we discuss over and over again... lets, see, I've used horses, and unicorns... beating a dead centaur.. about the minutiae of things, why did so and so get censured, etc..
Something's got to give, because this is increasingly seeming like a fiefdom. And maybe that's exactly what it is, since Dr. Bob or the University is paying Verio for its bandwidth.
I'm sorry, I'm not the most impressed at times -- sometimes I gather some rather interesting information, case reports though they may be, sometimes I add things, but I can't completely agree on this issue.
Tidings-- J
Posted by Gabbix2 on March 19, 2006, at 14:49:48
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » Sobriquet Style, posted by yxibow on March 19, 2006, at 14:37:46
I hear what you're saying. Lately, especially, I feel I'm being bullied and brow beaten by the more-sensitive-than thou..
Oh, the irony.
Posted by muffled on March 19, 2006, at 21:41:09
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » yxibow, posted by Gabbix2 on March 19, 2006, at 14:49:48
((((GG))))
You so calm.
Somebody said that to me I'd break their damn face for them.
Somebody says that to my friend I beat the crap outta them.
I REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY trying to be calm...................
:-(
Posted by muffled on March 19, 2006, at 21:44:18
In reply to above thread **ANGER TRIGGER**, grrrrrr., posted by muffled on March 19, 2006, at 21:41:09
If that wasn't civil, sorry. Just soooooooooooooooooooooooo freakin mad.
Posted by muffled on March 19, 2006, at 21:45:37
In reply to Re: above thread **ANGER TRIGGER**, grrrrrr., posted by muffled on March 19, 2006, at 21:44:18
Posted by James K on March 20, 2006, at 0:53:43
In reply to Re: above thread **ANGER TRIGGER**, grrrrrr., posted by muffled on March 19, 2006, at 21:44:18
I consider gardenergirl my friend, we've posted together about meds and whatever stuff, and whatever. But she blocked me recently, because I stepped right over the clear cut line, and sometimes it is a clear cut line. so what. I apologized to her, she doesn't owe me one. Muffled? when I get back, I sure hope yer here to greet me. No joke. It matters to me.
James K
Posted by gardenergirl on March 20, 2006, at 7:12:44
In reply to Re: above thread **ANGER TRIGGER**, grrrrrr., posted by James K on March 20, 2006, at 0:53:43
Thanks. I feel the same way. Take care of yourself. Babble will be here when you get back. And please know that we'll be thinking of you.
gg
Posted by AuntieMel on March 20, 2006, at 8:44:59
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive, posted by Sobriquet Style on March 18, 2006, at 7:34:27
I would guess most of the differences between gg and me are because of time available for the job.
I've been awfully busy with work these days.
Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 21, 2006, at 7:45:30
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » Sobriquet Style, posted by yxibow on March 19, 2006, at 14:37:46
>but I can't completely agree on this issue.
I didn't think we were disagreeing. :-)
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Posted by Sobriquet Style on March 21, 2006, at 7:53:55
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive » Sobriquet Style, posted by AuntieMel on March 20, 2006, at 8:44:59
>I would guess most of the differences between gg and me are because of time available for the job.
I guess the site guildlines are interpreted differently by each poster, as in various people percieve the rules differently, certain rules will be admistered depending on whos administering them...
>I've been awfully busy with work these days.
I find keeping busy can be a good thing for the mind at times. :-)
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Posted by Dr. Bob on March 21, 2006, at 16:38:25
In reply to Re: Please be sensitive, posted by Sobriquet Style on March 19, 2006, at 7:37:37
> > being a deputy and a poster to me seems a conflict of interest
>
> An example could be if you're a poster (and deputy,) as a poster you may have close relationships with other posters on the boards, who you consider to be your friends. Then you have other posters who may not be considered your friends eg. you have never interacted with them or felt that you wanted to reply, perhaps never read their posts. If one of your friends say something you may laugh and joke along with them. If another poster says a similar thing and you don't like the format in which its expressed and perhaps its torwards a friend, you can effectively warn, as a deputy, then interact as a poster and then block, as a deputy.
>
> If its one of your friends torward a poster you may choose not to warn in the first place.I agree, that's one of the potential downsides of having deputies. And I'm not immune to bias myself, either. I think it's something we need to stay aware of, but IMO, it's worked OK so far.
Bob
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