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Posted by LLL on August 13, 2002, at 15:11:10
Well my attempt to get back on my old friend Parnate for panic disorder/agoraphobia has been aborted due to not being able to tolerate feeling really sedated, a bit weird, and also frightenend of it all. Please, is there ANYONE else out there with panic disorder and agoraphobia (no offense, but it's not the same when it's a symptom of bi-polar)who was not succesful on SSRI's due to increasing the panic and anxiety BUT found success with Celexa and Klonopin? Since I have terrible responses to SSRI's - spontaneous and continuous panic that puts me into a nose dive - I was so hopeful that Parnate would once again save me. However it bit my a--! I'm deathly afraid of trying Celexa because of how I respond to the "feeling" of being on SSRI's (it's like a walking nightmare to me) but that's the next step as far as my pdoc is concerned. Just spoke with a friend who's been on Celexa since April and she's driving and doing all kinds of things she couldn't before. However, she had never been on a AD before. Is there any hope for me to respond any differently to Celexa if Paxil, Prozac and Effexor was like panic hell? (Remeron is out as well).
CBT alone will not do it for me - any helpful advice is welcomed!
Thanks,
Lisa
Posted by jay on August 14, 2002, at 2:26:50
In reply to Scared to Death, posted by LLL on August 13, 2002, at 15:11:10
Hi:'Scared to Death' is even putting it lightly, eh?..heh. Really, the panic and the anxiety is just horrid...believe me myself and most others on here know "that" feeling. Kinda like being lowered into molten lava 100,000,000 times over...ack..ughhh..maybe that is even too nice a description.
I deeply understand the panic 'hell' the SSRIS, Effexor, etc, can cause. I guess that is why I feel you *must* take the klonipin, or any other benzo, with it. I needed 2 years of continuous benzo use with my AD, until now I have only been able to use them 'as needed'...and still, in stressful times, I go back to continuous use.
Celexa and a lorazepam helped majorly....and the bottom line is, if Celexa with klonipin "seems" to help...it "does" help. Stick with it...up the klonipin when needed...and believe you *deserve* the best.
Best wishes and thoughts are with you...
Jay> Well my attempt to get back on my old friend Parnate for panic disorder/agoraphobia has been aborted due to not being able to tolerate feeling really sedated, a bit weird, and also frightenend of it all. Please, is there ANYONE else out there with panic disorder and agoraphobia (no offense, but it's not the same when it's a symptom of bi-polar)who was not succesful on SSRI's due to increasing the panic and anxiety BUT found success with Celexa and Klonopin? Since I have terrible responses to SSRI's - spontaneous and continuous panic that puts me into a nose dive - I was so hopeful that Parnate would once again save me. However it bit my a--! I'm deathly afraid of trying Celexa because of how I respond to the "feeling" of being on SSRI's (it's like a walking nightmare to me) but that's the next step as far as my pdoc is concerned. Just spoke with a friend who's been on Celexa since April and she's driving and doing all kinds of things she couldn't before. However, she had never been on a AD before. Is there any hope for me to respond any differently to Celexa if Paxil, Prozac and Effexor was like panic hell? (Remeron is out as well).
> CBT alone will not do it for me - any helpful advice is welcomed!
> Thanks,
> Lisa
Posted by LLL on August 14, 2002, at 8:07:15
In reply to Re: Scared to Death » LLL, posted by jay on August 14, 2002, at 2:26:50
Did the Klonopin REALLY, REALLY work? and how did the Klonopin feel? I hate to feel sedated or drugged and become anxious about it when I do, then realize I can't stop it (the effect of the med) or get it out of my symstem and then start to panic. At least now I can stop the panic by not driving certain places or just going home. With med's it's a whole other thing. Can you give me details on how you felt and why you had to take the Klonopin for 2 years? I've heard that it only takes a couple of weeks for the Celexa to work and the intial stage of increased anxiety to stop - no?
Thanks,
Lisa
Posted by d miller on August 14, 2002, at 19:01:33
In reply to Re: Scared to Death » jay, posted by LLL on August 14, 2002, at 8:07:15
I suffer from anxiety and I only recently started taking the clonazepam twice daily every day. I'm now feeling much more peaceful and confident. It did make me tired but it has subsided some, I also take effexor.
I had such a fear of taking a benzo my pdoc would urge me over and over to take it. This site has helped me look at benzo's in a different light. I really like that peaceful feeling.
d.miller
Posted by jay on August 20, 2002, at 3:01:37
In reply to Re: Scared to Death » jay, posted by LLL on August 14, 2002, at 8:07:15
> Did the Klonopin REALLY, REALLY work? and how did the Klonopin feel? I hate to feel sedated or drugged and become anxious about it when I do, then realize I can't stop it (the effect of the med) or get it out of my symstem and then start to panic. At least now I can stop the panic by not driving certain places or just going home. With med's it's a whole other thing. Can you give me details on how you felt and why you had to take the Klonopin for 2 years? I've heard that it only takes a couple of weeks for the Celexa to work and the intial stage of increased anxiety to stop - no?
> Thanks,
> LisaI used the Klonopin over two years because it *works*! Yes..it *realllllllly* worked! My anxiety, even on ad's, is still very high, and I am going back to full-time klonopin. Even my pharmacist agreed the a.d./benzo combination is hard to beat for results.(Again..it does depend on the person.)
BTW...I never had to go beyond 2mg's of klonopin over a day. Even 0.5 mg's still does wonders for my anxiety. So, don't buy into the 'scare' tactics that you become a junkie on this stuff. With an a.d., and changes to your life where needed, it can and has been a lifesaver.
Jay :-)
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