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Posted by Caper on June 4, 2004, at 17:42:11
Hi Impermanence,
Just wanted to check and see how things are going for you. I know the board has archived some old posts so I decided to just start a new thread for you. Let me know how you're doing.
Wishing you well,
Caper
Posted by Impermanence on June 4, 2004, at 21:20:42
In reply to Impermanence, how are you?, posted by Caper on June 4, 2004, at 17:42:11
Hi Caper, as you might have guessed I'm drunk, yet again..... I just can't help myself. It was a bottle of Pernod tonight, the stuff is growing on me big time!! Sorry I got ratty about our threads being deleted but I still think that was unfair and out of order, I don't see any threads being deleted from the other "Dr.Bob" boards..
Anyway I'm doing O.K. hun, I hope you are too..
It makes me sad to think how your perents could leave such a beautiful person in the dark, I understand they had much to deal with but they seem to have forgot the little star in the family was getting no attention.
I want to hug you so much right now to make up for some of the time you lost with them. I can see clearly why you became anorexic, the bigger the expectation the harder it is to be anyway normal. It must have been very tough on you, I can only imagine what it's like to need to be thin every day for everybody. *hugs*Caper you are no longer getting no attention, you already are a very important person in my life and I've never met you!!! Thats saying something my darling... You are a beautiful, intelligent woman who deserves a damn sight more respect than you are getting..
On the diet side of things; I take cod liver oil other fish oil, multivitamin and calcium tablets every morning. I think it helps babe. I think the omega 3 oils are very important. I exercise also and it is half the battle. I'm pretty much in shape but I wish I could keep away from the oul KFC, we all have our demons lol!!!Anyway nothing wrong with a bit of junk food in moderation, I think I should be more concerned with my alcohol intake!!
Anyway I'm going on and on..... Caper you are a beautiful person, I really care about you. Don't ever put yourself down, you've already helped a person thousands of miles away by just typing.
Lots of love and hugs. xxxxxxxxxxx
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 5, 2004, at 7:43:23
In reply to Re: Impermanence, how are you? » Caper, posted by Impermanence on June 4, 2004, at 21:20:42
This is the final time I will say this.
" I don't see any threads being deleted from the other "Dr.Bob" boards.. "
NO THREADS HAVE BEEN DELETED.
ALL PB BOARDS GET ARCHIVED WHEN THEY REACH A CERTAIN SIZE. I SHALL REPEAT THAT. *ALL* BOARDS GET ARCHIVED.
Go to, say, PB Admin. At the top of that page will be the same links I attempted to point uyou to here. The pages of the previous archived pages.
THIS HAPPENS TO ALL BOARDS.
Posted by partlycloudy on June 5, 2004, at 8:38:10
In reply to Re: Impermanence, how are you? » Impermanence, posted by NikkiT2 on June 5, 2004, at 7:43:23
For goodness' sake, Impernanence. Look in the archive and you will find all the older posts.
Nothing has been deleted.
Dr Bob is not out to *get* you.
Posted by Caper on June 5, 2004, at 18:26:29
In reply to Re: Impermanence, how are you? » Caper, posted by Impermanence on June 4, 2004, at 21:20:42
Hello Impermanence,
Glad to hear from you. Sorry to hear about the drinking but I must confess I am not stone cold sober myself. I'm not back on the hard liquor, but I don't feel comfortable not having a bottle of wine within reach.
Regarding the posts, it would be annoying if they were truly deleted, but they really aren't. On my screen I just click on April 4 (at the very top of the posts on this board, and they are still there, just archived.)
Thanks so much for your sweet thoughts. I've pretty much come to terms with the childhood stuff though, I think. It's classic: if you have children with chronic serious illness, you have to give them more attention. And if you have a daughter (me) who never gives trouble you never look for it and never recognize it if it appears (hence the months of daily drinking with no one aware in the slightest!).
You sound like a very sweet guy yourself, and I have to admit I look for your posts first now when I log on. I enjoy our conversations a lot.
I'm going to look into some of the vitamin stuff in more detail I think. As far as nutrition, I have a hard time with that because the drinking puts weight on me, so my impulse for a long time was to not eat, just drink. But that of course made me feel horrible, so I'm just trying to keep tapering the wine, and my diet is very low carb (because of all the sugar in the wine). I also work out (treadmill and/or weights) nearly every day. The treadmill helps the most- it clears my head and makes me not want to drink. (By the way, my weakness is chinese food and Taco Bell- do you have Taco Bell there?)
But you're right, the alcohol should be the main concern. I have a visit with a very good friend planned in a about a week and I haven't seen her in years, so I'm trying to taper (or at least hold steady) my wine intake, just hold on until after the visit. After that my therapist wants me to try a new hospital that specializes in "dual diagnosis"- both substance abuse and depression. But this hospital supposedly keeps you for longer than the other hospitals I tried (which basically detoxed me in 3-4 days then turned me loose without addressing the depression). I don't want to miss my friend's visit or I'd check myself in right now.
You take care of yourself too! I care about you as well and look forward to your posts. You've helped me quite a bit- your honesty and practicality combined with what I sense is a great sense of humor is a very good combination. Keep in touch please.
Warm hugs,
Caper
> Hi Caper, as you might have guessed I'm drunk, yet again..... I just can't help myself. It was a bottle of Pernod tonight, the stuff is growing on me big time!! Sorry I got ratty about our threads being deleted but I still think that was unfair and out of order, I don't see any threads being deleted from the other "Dr.Bob" boards..
>
> Anyway I'm doing O.K. hun, I hope you are too..
>
> It makes me sad to think how your perents could leave such a beautiful person in the dark, I understand they had much to deal with but they seem to have forgot the little star in the family was getting no attention.
> I want to hug you so much right now to make up for some of the time you lost with them. I can see clearly why you became anorexic, the bigger the expectation the harder it is to be anyway normal. It must have been very tough on you, I can only imagine what it's like to need to be thin every day for everybody. *hugs*
>
> Caper you are no longer getting no attention, you already are a very important person in my life and I've never met you!!! Thats saying something my darling... You are a beautiful, intelligent woman who deserves a damn sight more respect than you are getting..
>
>
> On the diet side of things; I take cod liver oil other fish oil, multivitamin and calcium tablets every morning. I think it helps babe. I think the omega 3 oils are very important. I exercise also and it is half the battle. I'm pretty much in shape but I wish I could keep away from the oul KFC, we all have our demons lol!!!
>
> Anyway nothing wrong with a bit of junk food in moderation, I think I should be more concerned with my alcohol intake!!
>
> Anyway I'm going on and on..... Caper you are a beautiful person, I really care about you. Don't ever put yourself down, you've already helped a person thousands of miles away by just typing.
>
> Lots of love and hugs. xxxxxxxxxxx
Posted by Caper on June 5, 2004, at 22:59:20
In reply to Re: Impermanence, how are you? » Impermanence, posted by NikkiT2 on June 5, 2004, at 7:43:23
> This is the final time I will say this.
>
> " I don't see any threads being deleted from the other "Dr.Bob" boards.. "
>
> NO THREADS HAVE BEEN DELETED.
>
> ALL PB BOARDS GET ARCHIVED WHEN THEY REACH A CERTAIN SIZE. I SHALL REPEAT THAT. *ALL* BOARDS GET ARCHIVED.
>
> Go to, say, PB Admin. At the top of that page will be the same links I attempted to point uyou to here. The pages of the previous archived pages.
>
> THIS HAPPENS TO ALL BOARDS.
>
>
I appreciate your trying to explain the "missing" posts but...isn't typing in all caps considered "shouting" and therefore rude?
It was nice of you to try to explain, but the tone of last message would have made me feel put down (if it had been directed at me) and isn't putting others down an example of "uncivil" posts according to the Dr. Bob rules?
I'm not trying to start anything here, and I understand your exasperation, but I think maybe it would have been better to just not post than to be so (trying to think of the right word) um....snappish?
Regards,
Caper
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 6, 2004, at 6:25:53
In reply to regarding the missing threads » NikkiT2, posted by Caper on June 5, 2004, at 22:59:20
OK, I await a PBC if Dr Bob Agree's with you.
But I felt very put down by the fact that Impermanence seemed to be taking no notice of what I was saying, and continuing with his attack on Dr Bob, where the were no justified reasons what so ever.
I was not shoutiing in my post. I was using capitals to make certain points clear, as I can not use bold here. It is also standard procedure on the net to do that when you ca't use bold / italic. If the whole post had been in capitals, then that would have meant shouting, but the use of singular words in capitals is not shouting.
Maybe I take attacks with no basis against Dr Bob personally as this place has been such a life saver for me over the past 5 years. I feel that Impermanence's posts were in no way civil toward Dr Bob, and I wanted to make him understand that the posts have *not* been deleted as he repeatedly says (even after 4 other attaempts by me to make this clear), that its happens on *all* of the PB boards (which I had stated 4 times previously), and that there was simply nothing for him to take offence over.
Posted by Caper on June 6, 2004, at 6:29:49
In reply to Re: regarding the missing threads » Caper, posted by NikkiT2 on June 6, 2004, at 6:25:53
I understand your points. I hope I didn't offend because I really did not mean to. I guess the typing in caps thing is considered bad some places and not others. Again, didn't mean to be rude or put you down.
Best to you,
Caper
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 6, 2004, at 11:56:39
In reply to Re: regarding the missing threads » NikkiT2, posted by Caper on June 6, 2004, at 6:29:49
Oh no iffence (see my above post titled "Day 3" and it might make some sense why I am a little.. um.. you know!)..
Well, the caps thing.. it IS considered shouting (but shouting isn't always rude in my opinion..) but like I explained, the fact that it wasn't my entire message might point towards the fact I was using it to try and highlight certain sections. I would have used bold or underlining if I had been able (and do elsewhere, as the other message boards I use allow the use of HTML).. I was just finding it so very very frustrating that Dr Bob was being accused of things that he had not done. I know Dr Bob isn't perfect, but I do desperately wanted Impermanence to understand that his accusations were false, as I think everyone else understands.
And I did feel hurt that after my attempts at explaining this were seemingly ignored by the post he made to you.With respect (though saying that makes it sound like I dont' respect.. but I really liked the fact you replied to me, and were nice, and didn't swear or anything like that.. I got good vibes from your post if that makes any sense what so ever *lol*)
Nikki x
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