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Posted by jay on December 27, 2003, at 18:38:02
It seems women are so much more social than men.(Even just going by the numbers posting here on social.) I don't mean they suffer less, but it makes me worry of all of the undiagnosed illness among men. Men are socialized to be so much more "macho" and "strong", and I think that has a major adverse effect. I can tell you, it sure as hell is tough being a sensitive, gentle, peaceful non-sexist guy in the world this day in age.
Jay :-/
Posted by justyourlaugh on December 27, 2003, at 22:53:23
In reply to He's a rebel and a runner...New World Man, posted by jay on December 27, 2003, at 18:38:02
i am not social..
nor do i want to be..
i cant seem to meet people like you..
everyone wants something from me..
everyone could care less about each other..
i would rather not play..
Posted by justyourlaugh on December 27, 2003, at 23:03:02
In reply to He's a rebel and a runner...New World Man, posted by jay on December 27, 2003, at 18:38:02
i cant stand to be alone with me anymore..
where do i go now?
i must get out there and sit in the stands awhile.
please dont point and laugh behind my back..
dont look away like i dont matter..
it is okay to stand next to me..
wow, another lonely night i managed to get through.
thanks jay for always giving me something to read..
night
j
Posted by octopusprime on December 27, 2003, at 23:26:08
In reply to Re: He's a rebel and a runner...New World Man » jay, posted by justyourlaugh on December 27, 2003, at 22:53:23
i can't seem to meet people like you either, jay
i can't count the number of men that i've met
that have given me the whole "i'm not ready for this" spiel
what is there to be ready for?all i want is a nice person
to go to the beach with me
to sip a bottle of wine with me
to give me a hug and tell me everything is ok
and i'll rub his shoulders and tell him everything's ok tooi'm a simple woman with simple tastes
but things are not so simple in society
men (and women) seem to put more stock in illusions (delusions) of grandeur
and the pompous posing sickens memaybe you're right, maybe it is a disease of men
would rather have their macho false fronts than risk real caring
"the devil you know is better than the devil you don't"
and so onso i too stay home
where there's no cover charge and the drinks are already paid for
i read my book
and take my mind away in fantasy
and i post as a ventand i wonder
why we can't just ask for what we need
why we can't accept it when it comes along
where did all the gentle souls go
and why are we so afraid of each other
Posted by jay on December 28, 2003, at 0:15:10
In reply to however...., posted by justyourlaugh on December 27, 2003, at 23:03:02
jyl...please be good to yourself. You've always been great to me. It's never forgotten..
In a Peaceable Kingdom,
Jay
Posted by jay on December 28, 2003, at 0:18:40
In reply to Re: He's a rebel and a runner...New World Man, posted by octopusprime on December 27, 2003, at 23:26:08
I honestly have no answers for your questions O.P...and really, I find it hard to understand the behaviour of most people, let alone men. I guess I was lucky that I had/have a great strong mother for a role model, and a caring soft father for a role model. Beyond that....I don't know...
Best and peace,
Jay
Posted by Medusa on December 28, 2003, at 0:51:50
In reply to He's a rebel and a runner...New World Man, posted by jay on December 27, 2003, at 18:38:02
> tough being a sensitive, gentle, peaceful non-sexist guy in the world this day in age.
>so don't be!
why are you buying this script and playing it?
how about just being Jay - who most certainly has a flip side to the above coin. who's a whole person, with non-gentle, non-peaceful aspects.
live the ambivalence!
Posted by sb417 on December 28, 2003, at 1:07:10
In reply to Re: He's a rebel and a runner...New World Man » octopusprime, posted by jay on December 28, 2003, at 0:18:40
With a little bit of re-wording and a few other modifications, several of the posts on this thread could be Personals ads. Personally, I prefer Medusa's honesty.
Posted by Medusa on December 28, 2003, at 14:00:18
In reply to Is this the Personals ads section of PB?, posted by sb417 on December 28, 2003, at 1:07:10
> Personally, I prefer Medusa's honesty.
Thanks SB417!
But I don't think the OP was a personals ad, more of an update on an on-going project. Jay's serious about this and has put a lot of work into figuring out various social challenges.
e.g.:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20021022/msgs/31674.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020829/msgs/29585.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20011015/msgs/12882.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020722/msgs/27050.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020908/msgs/30099.htmlHope that helps to clear up any misunderstanding of intention.
Posted by justyourlaugh on December 28, 2003, at 14:14:26
In reply to Is this the Personals ads section of PB?, posted by sb417 on December 28, 2003, at 1:07:10
i am unsure?
do you mean the rest of us are dishonest?
whats wrong with a personal ad post anyway?
we all nedd a little reasuring from time to time..
mabe some of us can only get it here..
sb...you look wonderful tonight..
come sit by me in this good ole hot tub..
ill turn on the rock and roll..
you can tell me if you want me to make you a sandwich..
jyl
Posted by deirdrehbrt on December 28, 2003, at 14:47:21
In reply to Re: Is this the Personals ads section of PB?, posted by justyourlaugh on December 28, 2003, at 14:14:26
I like what I see here. I love the discussion.
To me, the difficulty is in that we're raised, not to be good people, but rather to be individuals who fit into a society. If we deviate from the norms, we are pigeone-holed as strange, bizarre, odd, queer, and any othe number of titles.
Having to fit outside the box is so hard. How many of us just ball up and start crying when on a movie, the daughter is standing, broken, in tears in front of her parents saying "All I ever wanted was to be your little girl." I can't get by them. That's what I wanted, but not what my parents were looking for. I'm certain the same holds true for men.
Wouldn't it be nice if parents could know that all their children want is to be daughters or sons. Please don't make us into doctors, nurses, military men or women, lawyers, or auto mechanics. We will figure out how to do that on our own. Teach us what we need to know, but do not mold us into who you think we should be. Teach us how to speak, how to respect others, but please don't tell us who to like or not.
Please mom and dad, help us to grow, but don't control the direction of our life. Plants individually move toward the sunlight, and we must individually find our way. Force our way, and we grow injured and bruised.
I guess this post mutated a bit from when I started it, but it still has some ideas that I wanted to share.Dee
Posted by sb417 on December 28, 2003, at 15:27:06
In reply to Re: Is this the Personals ads section of PB?, posted by justyourlaugh on December 28, 2003, at 14:14:26
> i am unsure?
> do you mean the rest of us are dishonest?
> .> jyl
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No, that is NOT what I said.
Posted by justyourlaugh on December 28, 2003, at 15:45:09
In reply to Is this the Personals ads section of PB?, posted by sb417 on December 28, 2003, at 1:07:10
Posted by Karen_kay on December 29, 2003, at 20:48:20
In reply to Re: Is this the Personals ads section of PB? » justyourlaugh, posted by sb417 on December 28, 2003, at 15:27:06
Wanted:
An older gentleman, with unlimited funds to care for a lady in her mid 20's. Must only be hungry when she feels like cooking, but he must not cook, as she will only criticize his abilities. He should be able to tolerate volatile mood swings, without the slightest hint of frustration. Must be able to read minds and know when she wants to listen to the sound of his voice. Must be able to accept the fact that she will not become emotionaly attached. Little to no physical contact. Absolutely no sexual contact of any kind. He must appear interested in everything she has to say, but not too interested. He must always know the right thing to say and ask, without her prompting. He must come from a perfect family, and have no hidden flaws. He must also know that she will become disinterested after 5 or 6 years.Any takers??
(I have to work past this... I have to work past this.....)
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