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Posted by NikkiT2 on December 8, 2003, at 9:55:34
I can't believe I actually managed to do this.. But earlier today i went to the Engdland Rugby Union Victory Celebration parade!! Its an agorophocic social phobics worst night mare.. But I was so close to it, and I knew I would regret it for the rest of my life if I didn't go!
And it was amazing!! Such an atmosphere.. when the important time came I was rather ovr excited, so the photos aren't great.. But I thought I would share them anyway.. I chucked them onto a webpage quickly..
Enjoy!
http://soiuser.hyperchat.com/rugby/rugby.htm
Nikki x
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 8, 2003, at 10:05:40
In reply to Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.., posted by NikkiT2 on December 8, 2003, at 9:55:34
I'm so glad you didn't let your cognition (that you are an agoro/social phobic) get in the way of being human....way to go (out)!
That second pic, of what you call a car.....geez louise, I wouldn't wanna have to drive that monstrosity (stretch hummer2?)....the turning radius is huge...
Lar
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 8, 2003, at 13:17:53
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.. » NikkiT2, posted by Larry Hoover on December 8, 2003, at 10:05:40
yeah, twas a strech hummer.. is mainly for my husband as he loves them!! *l*
Heavens knows how it manages to get around london with its small streets *l* I wanted a shot fo the van behind it, that was blaring out "swing low" on a loud speaker system, and had bubbles pouring from the back of it *lol* But my camera wasn't quick enough!
It was fun, and I'm so pleased I did it!
nikki xx
Posted by tabitha on December 8, 2003, at 15:03:51
In reply to Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.., posted by NikkiT2 on December 8, 2003, at 9:55:34
Thanks Nikki. The pics are really good. Good for you for braving the crowd and getting in on the excitement of the event. I felt a bit of it myself.. perhaps waiting for the photos to download was a little like waiting for the cup to arrive? I was hoping for a shot of you in there somewhere, but no matter.
Posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 3:56:48
In reply to Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.., posted by NikkiT2 on December 8, 2003, at 9:55:34
I've just got to know..why do the Poms sing "Swing Low Sweet Chariot?"..like what has that got to do with England?
Guess it's better than God Save the Queen?(we used to have that one until they picked out a new one no one much knew)
The TV commentators were going up to the Brits before the match and asking them why they sang "Swing Low sweet Chariot"...and noone knew..one suggested it had something to do with Jerusalem?...huh?(and this from a Pommie)
Of course, it would have been better if we'd won..but what we did was a win in my books anyway. We couldn't have lost it better.
One of those once a lifetime games.
On my last visit to a psychiatrist, he wanted to test how "in touch" I was with the REAL world..so he asked me what was goin on in the world, that was important like.
I replied.. err the IRAQ war...no
err the war in the Solomons ....nope
err bushfires raging.....nope
think, think, think, aussie male ..ahh yes, sport, yes Rugby..so I said Rugby..and I got it right!... see no problem....can't be too depressedJan (from downunder)
Posted by lookdownfish on December 9, 2003, at 9:17:54
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.. » NikkiT2, posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 3:56:48
Thanks for the pictures Nikki. Wish I could have gone, but I couldn't skip off work sadly.
As for swing low...I found the following possible explanation:
Swing Low is an African-American gospel song about a runaway slave during the cotton trade. It was arranged by American Henry Thacker Burleigh from a spiritual song his slave grandfather taught him in 1866. The way it became associated with English rugby is not as clear cut. The most popular theory is that it came from a bawdy song sung in the British Army. Officers would sing a version of the spiritual in the mess tent complete with lewd hand actions. Officers played rugby, so it became a favourite bawdy tune sung in local clubs, which was then adopted by English fans. Another theory is that workers in the cotton industry based in Lancashire in Northern England adopted the tune in support of the slaves. English rugby was based in the north and was popular with textile workers, who were becoming unionised and were against the US slave trade.
All a bit tenuous, But tealady, I must ask what has Waltzing Matilda got to do with rugby?!!
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 9, 2003, at 10:04:59
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.. » NikkiT2, posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 3:56:48
I don;t know to tell the truth.. I know its been sung int he British Forces for a long time.. My dad often sung it apparently (with the lewd hand gestures.. But I'd never believe that of MY dad *lol*)
But.. its a nice tune, easy to remember.. God Save Our Queen is the UK's anthom, and we were playing Rugby as England, so that wouldn't be apprpriate. Land of Hope and Glory maybe, but thats not a very rousing song for a sport in my opinion.
Anyway.. we carried the cup home. thats enough for me!!
And I expect that the press were asking English fans.. Brits include Northern Irish, Welsh and Scots, and I somehow doubt they would have been supporting us (as teh Scots made abundantly clear before the match.. I suggested England stop financing them them, but I was being bitter apparently *l*)
I've alwayts called myself a Brit.. But, I ahve now decided I am ENGLISH, and I am proud to be so *smiles*
And I'm also not a pommie b*****d.. If one more person calls me that, I shall not be responsible for my actions.. Though I guess Dr Bobs wonderful civility laws atleast protect me from that.
Nikki
Posted by Penny on December 9, 2003, at 10:19:16
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.. » tealady, posted by NikkiT2 on December 9, 2003, at 10:04:59
but what the heck is a "Pom"?
Not up on my European lingo...
which is okay, considering I've never been there...
:-(
P
Posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 13:48:51
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.., posted by lookdownfish on December 9, 2003, at 9:17:54
Thankks for the explanation. I thought it was nan old African-American gospel song ..that's why I didn't see what it had to do with the dear old motherland
> Swing Low is an African-American gospel song about a runaway slave during the cotton trade. It was arranged by American Henry Thacker Burleigh from a spiritual song his slave grandfather taught him in 1866.Nikki
>My dad often sung it apparently (with the lewd hand gestures.. But I'd never believe that of MY dad *lol*)well I guess I'll take that to be the origins then<grin>
> God Save Our Queen is the UK's anthom, and we were playing Rugby as England, so that wouldn't be appropriate. Land of Hope and Glory maybe, but thats not a very rousing song for a sport in my opinion.
points taken, although Land of Hope and Glory is a great song..not a great chant
Anyway.. we carried the cup home. thats enough for me!!... only just
And I'm also not a pommie b*****d...
Note, I left off the last word. It's a term of affection BTW <grin>, and considering you did carry off the cup...(My grandmother came from Manchester does that count?)
PS. I reckon you are goin to have to watch out for the Welsh team next time if things keep going as they are ..they played a great game against Italy, made a couple of mistakes against France but almost there
>The way it became associated with English rugby is not as clear cut.The most popular theory is that it came from a bawdy song sung in the British Army. Officers would sing a version of the spiritual in the mess tent complete with lewd hand actions. Officers played rugby, so it became a favourite bawdy tune sung in local clubs, which was then adopted by English fans.Now THAT makes sense <grin>
>
> All a bit tenuous, But tealady, I must ask what has Waltzing Matilda got to do with rugby?!!
>It's associated with Australia, not necessarily rugby.
When they decided we were grown up enough to have our own anthem..I mean playing "God the save the Queen" at the Olympics when Australia wins? ..well Waltzing Matilda was the only one of the choices that Australians really knew the words of.(or had even heard of in some cases) of .
It's been a bit of joke that we Aussies don't all know the words of our anthem over the years, sometimes they hand out the words <g>..but we all know Waltzing MatildaAussies associated with the underdog, the rebellion against the authority and rules etc.. at least we did traditionally...it's where mateship comes from, sticking together, not dobbing etc.. probably from the convict origins, right?
Posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 18:42:06
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.. » tealady, posted by NikkiT2 on December 9, 2003, at 10:04:59
> > And I'm also not a pommie b*****d.. If one more person calls me that, I shall not be responsible for my actions.. Though I guess Dr Bobs wonderful civility laws atleast protect me from that.
>
> NikkiSo you came out here then?
Considering that you took the cup home I think a pommie b*****d is really an affectionate endearment that exemplifies the great respect felt for you guys <g>
Very good match
Posted by NikkiT2 on December 10, 2003, at 12:18:19
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.. » NikkiT2, posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 18:42:06
No.. never been to Australia.. but know many Australians online, and live in an area that has a huge proportion of Australians living here.
Thing is.. they take offence when I call them Aussie c***s and I only mean that affectionatly.
It was a great match. Amazing.
I just take offence at being called a b*****d. Was just a general rant, tis all.
Nikki
Posted by Ben-uk on December 26, 2003, at 22:12:31
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot..Nikki » lookdownfish, posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 13:48:51
There is a really good article about how 'Swing Low Sweet Chariot' became an English Rugby anthem at this page....
http://www.everyhit.com/stories/swing_low_sweet_chariot.html
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