Posted by tealady on December 9, 2003, at 13:48:51
In reply to Re: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot.., posted by lookdownfish on December 9, 2003, at 9:17:54
Thankks for the explanation. I thought it was nan old African-American gospel song ..that's why I didn't see what it had to do with the dear old motherland
> Swing Low is an African-American gospel song about a runaway slave during the cotton trade. It was arranged by American Henry Thacker Burleigh from a spiritual song his slave grandfather taught him in 1866.Nikki
>My dad often sung it apparently (with the lewd hand gestures.. But I'd never believe that of MY dad *lol*)well I guess I'll take that to be the origins then<grin>
> God Save Our Queen is the UK's anthom, and we were playing Rugby as England, so that wouldn't be appropriate. Land of Hope and Glory maybe, but thats not a very rousing song for a sport in my opinion.
points taken, although Land of Hope and Glory is a great song..not a great chant
Anyway.. we carried the cup home. thats enough for me!!... only just
And I'm also not a pommie b*****d...
Note, I left off the last word. It's a term of affection BTW <grin>, and considering you did carry off the cup...(My grandmother came from Manchester does that count?)
PS. I reckon you are goin to have to watch out for the Welsh team next time if things keep going as they are ..they played a great game against Italy, made a couple of mistakes against France but almost there
>The way it became associated with English rugby is not as clear cut.The most popular theory is that it came from a bawdy song sung in the British Army. Officers would sing a version of the spiritual in the mess tent complete with lewd hand actions. Officers played rugby, so it became a favourite bawdy tune sung in local clubs, which was then adopted by English fans.Now THAT makes sense <grin>
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> All a bit tenuous, But tealady, I must ask what has Waltzing Matilda got to do with rugby?!!
>It's associated with Australia, not necessarily rugby.
When they decided we were grown up enough to have our own anthem..I mean playing "God the save the Queen" at the Olympics when Australia wins? ..well Waltzing Matilda was the only one of the choices that Australians really knew the words of.(or had even heard of in some cases) of .
It's been a bit of joke that we Aussies don't all know the words of our anthem over the years, sometimes they hand out the words <g>..but we all know Waltzing MatildaAussies associated with the underdog, the rebellion against the authority and rules etc.. at least we did traditionally...it's where mateship comes from, sticking together, not dobbing etc.. probably from the convict origins, right?
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