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Posted by Tabitha on December 17, 2002, at 0:55:36
Remember our depression and comorbid disorders party? Well, the ratty bathrobe that I would have worn finally bit the dust. On top of its usual bedraggled state (picture floral flannel, garish to begin with, unevenly faded, permanently yellowed around the neckline), I got some red dye on it, then it ripped out under the arm. So... after much web-surfing and some dismal failed mall excursions, I got a new men's flannel robe from Target. Only $15.99 and 100% cotton. (The thing that annoys me is all the comparable robes from the women's dept were twice the price and part synthetic. Blatant discrimination!) The print could be better, but it's cozy and pleasantly oversized. Since I spend the majority of my time at home in a bathrobe, this counts as a major lifestyle enhancement.
Posted by Tabitha on December 17, 2002, at 3:49:38
In reply to Gabbi X2...and everyone else...loungewear..., posted by Tabitha on December 17, 2002, at 0:55:36
Last sentence was poorly formed. I don't spend majority of all time - at home in a bathrobe. I meant - majority of time at home is spent wearing bathrobe.
I take lounging seriously but there are rules-- it's OK to appear in back yard in bathrobe, but front yard requires clothes. Fuzzy purple slippers may be worn anywhere in yard.
Posted by Kar on December 17, 2002, at 6:51:41
In reply to Gabbi X2...and everyone else...loungewear..., posted by Tabitha on December 17, 2002, at 0:55:36
>(The thing that annoys me is all the comparable robes from the women's dept were twice the price
Well, the thing is that the men's are cheaper because they're weaker, more poorly manufactured, fade easily, don't live as long, and are often quite flawed. And probably previously worn.
Oh no sorry- that's just men!Congratulations on your lifestyle enhancement! And BTW, I'm Karen...
Wishing you coziness in the New Year...
>
Posted by justyourlaugh on December 17, 2002, at 8:44:10
In reply to Ok I'm not everyone else but... » Tabitha, posted by Kar on December 17, 2002, at 6:51:41
i like to wear nothing at all at home.
but the kids seem to mind -
i keep the heat up (canadian eh!)i always buy my son woman's sneakers.
they are almost half the price.jyl
Posted by BeardedLady on December 17, 2002, at 9:46:40
In reply to Gabbi X2...and everyone else...loungewear..., posted by Tabitha on December 17, 2002, at 0:55:36
The robe I bought my husband from Target was SUPPOSED to be $15.99. But it had a tag on it that said $45, which I didn't notice until I got home! Sheesh!
I have sometimes gone out front in the very early morning or very dark night with just a t-shirt and underpants. Not for long. Just for a sec. It always seems to be winter when that happens.
beardy
Posted by IsoM on December 17, 2002, at 11:55:02
In reply to Re: loungewear..., posted by BeardedLady on December 17, 2002, at 9:46:40
Bathrobes are a nuisance for me - I have none. But jammies! oh yes.
I prefer men jammies. Women's are poorly made & have too many silly decorative frills that interfere with comfort. I scout 2nd hand stores for my jammies. My theory is the men jammies find their way to there from well meaning relatives buying them as gifts for the guys. Then these men (in shock 'cause they sleep in the buff) pack off new jammies to the 2nd hand store where I buy them CHEAP!
If it's reasonably warm, I wear jammie bottoms with a tank top. If it's real warm, I wear boxer bottoms (not men's though - I don't need that mysterious opening in the front. Why's it there?) & tank top. I have a few good jammie bottoms without a jammie top. These are useful to go shopping in. A pair of earrings & maybe bracelet or necklace dress them up nicely. Trouble is, few have pockets for me to keep my licence, interact card, & keys in. I loathe purses & don't use them.
I do dress up & wear elegant long skirts & flowing dresses too, but for casual times, nothing beats soft jammies!
Posted by Alii on December 17, 2002, at 12:15:39
In reply to Re: loungewear..., posted by IsoM on December 17, 2002, at 11:55:02
Ah you reminded me of our family Boxing Day tradition. The day after Christmas we would all sit around in our jammies or robes or whatever new gifty threads we received or our old threadbare tattered ones. Growing up we just spent Boxing Day not putting on our street clothes and spent the whole day at home enjoy the company of one another.
This year on 26/12 I have a therapy group to go to and I insisted that if I am to show up the day after Christmas I am not comprimising on my Boxing Day wear! I shall probably show up in my tartan knee length nightshirt and my fuzzy polartec robe and some clever slippers. Oh and of course the teddy bear.
Comfy is goooooooood.
Remind me to fly you down here to bargain shop with me sometime. You sound like you have the knack of a sale queen.
--Alii
> Bathrobes are a nuisance for me - I have none. But jammies! oh yes.
>
> I prefer men jammies. Women's are poorly made & have too many silly decorative frills that interfere with comfort. I scout 2nd hand stores for my jammies. My theory is the men jammies find their way to there from well meaning relatives buying them as gifts for the guys. Then these men (in shock 'cause they sleep in the buff) pack off new jammies to the 2nd hand store where I buy them CHEAP!
>
> If it's reasonably warm, I wear jammie bottoms with a tank top. If it's real warm, I wear boxer bottoms (not men's though - I don't need that mysterious opening in the front. Why's it there?) & tank top. I have a few good jammie bottoms without a jammie top. These are useful to go shopping in. A pair of earrings & maybe bracelet or necklace dress them up nicely. Trouble is, few have pockets for me to keep my licence, interact card, & keys in. I loathe purses & don't use them.
>
> I do dress up & wear elegant long skirts & flowing dresses too, but for casual times, nothing beats soft jammies!
Posted by ShelliR on December 17, 2002, at 12:17:04
In reply to Ok I'm not everyone else but... » Tabitha, posted by Kar on December 17, 2002, at 6:51:41
> >(The thing that annoys me is all the comparable robes from the women's dept were twice the price
>
> Well, the thing is that the men's are cheaper because they're weaker, more poorly manufactured, fade easily, don't live as long, and are often quite flawed. And probably previously worn.
> Oh no sorry- that's just men!
Actually, there's a lot larger markup on womans' clothing than mens'--200%. That's why they're able to give you incredible sales (like in department stores, they take off 40%, then with a coupon, another 20%--seems like you're getting it for just about nothing)Also, I said this previously in another post; you can wear pajamas or a nightgown in your front yard IF, you wear accessories--just put on a necklace, bracelet, earrings, etc. At least that's the rule in my neighborhood. :-)
Take care,
Shelli
Posted by ShelliR on December 17, 2002, at 12:20:51
In reply to Re: loungewear..., posted by IsoM on December 17, 2002, at 11:55:02
Posted by IsoM on December 17, 2002, at 12:57:28
In reply to Re: loungewear... » IsoM, posted by Alii on December 17, 2002, at 12:15:39
I can imagine shopping with you - it would be so much fun. I wish we could! I do think I'm the queen of 2nd hand stuff, but very, very little of it's tacky & if my heart was taken by it.
I've got a beautiful Japanese doll (baby-faced) dressed in a silk & metal Samurai costume in an enclosed glass case for one son. I've innumerable wind chimes of glass, pewter, shell, alabaster, crystals, etc. I love the tinkle of wind chimes. I have a tiny cinnabar intricately carved Chinese snuff bottle. I got a small (my wrists are tiny) bracelet that was thought to be a child's bracelet & not valuable. After cleaning it up & polishing it, I discovered small markings on the inside of the clasp. Checking on the internet, I found it's an 18K gold bracelet valued in the high hundreds. I've got a real silk Chinese jacket & a Suzy Wong type dress. A wonderful London Fog duffle coat for one son. Silverware - candelabra, vases, pitchers, etc. Tiny but lovely ruby earrings. Decorative clay plant pots. And then many mundane but good things I need too like undershirts, soft wool socks (new good wool socks are EXPENSIVE!), shoes, sweaters, jackets, cookware (an electric frying pan that I needed to buy a plug for - also 2nd hand. I found that it was a Salad Master pan that retails for a couple hundred!), small side tables, tea & bath towels. A huge collection of se shell from around the world ranging from smaller than my little fingernail to a couple that fits in both hands. The list goes on & on.
To be honest, I rarely buy anything new & only if necessary. My collections have taken years to build up but I take care of things & they last forever. Old stuff was often made much sturdier & long lasting anyway. The last new clothing I bought was over 5 years ago. (I know other people would gag, but I even buy bras & underwear 2nd hand. I just am sure to buy the clean, good unused stuff & wash everything in very hot water & bleach, if it can take it.)
Even though I was dirt poor until just recently (I've made it to lower middle class now), my son's friends thought I was well off as our place is elegantly & expensively furnished (except for the old sofa). I have good taste & can recognise at a glance that which is expensive & well made. A bit of elbow grease or repair, & it's better than new stuff available now. I take pride in thinking I do my share in recycling by not wasting & reusing. And I'm proud to be so humble about being cheap! *_^
Posted by Kar on December 17, 2002, at 17:06:38
In reply to Re: Ok I'm not everyone else but..., posted by ShelliR on December 17, 2002, at 12:17:04
> > Well, the thing is that the men's are cheaper because they're weaker, more poorly manufactured, fade easily, don't live as long, and are often quite flawed. And probably previously worn.
> > Oh no sorry- that's just men!That was just a joke!! :D
>
> Actually, there's a lot larger markup on womans' clothing than mens'--200%. That's why they're able to give you incredible sales (like in department stores, they take off 40%, then with a coupon, another 20%--seems like you're getting it for just about nothing)
>
Posted by Dinah on December 17, 2002, at 19:02:56
In reply to Gabbi X2...and everyone else...loungewear..., posted by Tabitha on December 17, 2002, at 0:55:36
Pajamas is almost all I ever wear at home. And they have to be a very soft cotton.
I've actually purged my entire closet recently to get rid of anything that wasn't nearly as comfy as jammies (except bras of course, no such thing as a comfy one). I'm not stylish, but everything touching my skin is soft. :)
Posted by Tabitha on December 18, 2002, at 1:11:55
In reply to Ok I'm not everyone else but... » Tabitha, posted by Kar on December 17, 2002, at 6:51:41
That's some excellent logic about the price difference. :-)
And Hi, nice to meet you.
Posted by Tabitha on December 18, 2002, at 1:25:53
In reply to ...loungewear..., posted by Dinah on December 17, 2002, at 19:02:56
Dinah, the closet purge sounds like a wonderful idea. Out with scratchy wrinkly fussy everything. For that recalcitrant underwear drawer... here's a thought.... have you tried sports bras? You can end up with the uni-boob look, but they sure beat the usual lingerie numbers in the comfort department.
Posted by Tabitha on December 18, 2002, at 1:40:20
In reply to Re: loungewear..., posted by IsoM on December 17, 2002, at 11:55:02
I was noticing some men's jammy bottoms in the store that looked highly presentable and wondering... hmm, dare I wear these as pants? You've given me courage. Heck, they're way better looking than sweat pants.
Posted by IsoM on December 18, 2002, at 1:46:32
In reply to ...loungewear..., posted by Dinah on December 17, 2002, at 19:02:56
Soft & clothes that don't bind or restrict - yes! I'm very sensitive to touch & you sound like you are too, Dinah. I can wear some silk as it feels nice next to my skin too. Comfort comes first for me & if it's nice looking, all the better. But I don't care how beautiful something looks if it's not soft & comfortable. I look at some poor babies that are all dressed up in scratchy lace or other irritating clothes & I feel so sorry for them. They can't complain about it to let their parents know. I cut the inside labels off all my clothes - they're horribly scratchy too.
Do you find that you seem hypersensitive to touch of any sort? Just brushing against me will give me a shiver down my spine. The funny thing is I'm so sensitive but I'm not ticklish. The touch has to be super light to tickle me normally. But the feel of holding a warm soft cat in my arms is heavenly. No wonder most people don't like hugging cool, scaly snakes & lizards.
Posted by IsoM on December 18, 2002, at 2:32:54
In reply to Re: loungewear... » IsoM, posted by Tabitha on December 18, 2002, at 1:40:20
...so why not us? We're already somewhat eccentric & don't really care what others think. It's funny as I had a few drawstring waist pants a few years back. I wore them everywhere till I wore them out, literally. But in the meantime, I got lots of compliments from younger people (I was in college as an oldie), & within the next couple of years, they became a fad (not that I actually started it). Few wear them now but I love drawstring waists.
Posted by Dinah on December 18, 2002, at 9:21:04
In reply to Re: ...loungewear... » Dinah, posted by Tabitha on December 18, 2002, at 1:25:53
You've inspired me to go on another search. Last time I went, admittedly some time ago, it was apparently assumed that women my size didn't do sports. :) But I'm sure things have changed by now. I'll try the specialty stores.
But I'll let you in on my shameful secret. I use bandeau tops from bathing suits for bras when I'm dressed casually. It's not the most flattering thing, but it does the job and feels comfy.
Posted by Dinah on December 18, 2002, at 9:29:06
In reply to Re: ...loungewear... » Dinah, posted by IsoM on December 18, 2002, at 1:46:32
That sounds just like me, Iso. I don't get brushed against, even in crowds, very often. My husband says I carry around a force shield that enforces my personal space and I tend to believe him. I've seen my son with that force shield sometimes, although he seems to be outgrowing it.
I'm very sensitive to touch, and especially don't like very light touches or moving touches. I love to cuddle with my dogs, or being held firmly and gently. I'm not at all ticklish, but those light "tickly" touches are interpreted as painful by my brain.
I finally just got sick of having a closet full of clothes that I rarely wear, and regret wearing when I do. And my mom loves to give me the sort of clothes she wears, which are frequently scratchy. It does no good to object, so I thank her very politely and consider that her gift to me is a donation to Goodwill, which is a perfectly nice gift. :)
Posted by IsoM on December 18, 2002, at 11:47:12
In reply to Re: ...loungewear... » IsoM, posted by Dinah on December 18, 2002, at 9:29:06
I love light touches, but only if it's someone I'm very comfortable with & love. That can be my sons, my Mom, my kitties, & a few colse friends. But I do know what you mean how you feel. It's interesting you mentioned that as that's an Asperger characteristic. It VERY much describes one of my sons. He can occasionally give me a firm (but fairly brief) hug but flinches at any other touch. He was cuddly as a baby & toddler only for nursing or when he was frightened or needed consoling.
I'm not saying you have Asperger syndrome but you do seem to have some Asperger traits. (Remember our converstaion about it a while back.) Because of my son, I can totally understand it in others & never take it as a sign of unfriendliness or being aloof as some do.
And your generous Mom! New clothes for the Goodwill stores - a considerate solution on your part.
Posted by BeardedLady on December 18, 2002, at 12:50:40
In reply to Re: light touches » Dinah, posted by IsoM on December 18, 2002, at 11:47:12
I am wearing big, wide-legged, elastic-waist velour pants--off white with brown stitching in a wide (6") pattern around the bottom of the legs. I am wearing a baggy, brown chenille sweater--very soft and comfy, but has lots of holes where threads have ripped. And I am wearing chenille socks and soft clogs.
I usually wear tight clothes because I don't like to look so big. I take up a lot of room today, though, and it's okay. I'm feeling loungy. I'm comfortable.
Too bad it has to come off in a little while when I go to Weight Watchers. (I can't weigh in with all these extra pounds!)
beardy
Posted by Tabitha on December 18, 2002, at 13:52:54
In reply to Today's outfit, in honor of Iso and Dinah » IsoM, posted by BeardedLady on December 18, 2002, at 12:50:40
Posted by Medusa on December 19, 2002, at 4:50:07
In reply to Gabbi X2...and everyone else...loungewear..., posted by Tabitha on December 17, 2002, at 0:55:36
Why are velours pants "brave"?
I just bought 6 meters of deep navy cotton velours, and I'm not sure what to make with it. It's currently folded over and back as a blanket on my bed.
I've made an effort to get rid of "leisure" clothes that are bad color, fit etc on me. Makes such a difference.
I just read _Simple Isn't Easy_ by Olivia Goldsmith and Amy Fine Collins. It's out of print, but if your library has it, worth the read. Lots of closet purging.
As for loungewear ... I love love love the look of those 40s movies dressing gowns. Well-cut bathrobes, really. I was thinking about one of those for my velours. With a shawl collar in the thick cotton satin I have.
Posted by Tabitha on December 19, 2002, at 11:40:17
In reply to Re: Gabbi X2...and everyone else...loungewear..., posted by Medusa on December 19, 2002, at 4:50:07
Well... velour pants show the behind in vivid detail. You've got to be secure with your behind to wear knit pants. Even with a baggy sweater covering them, I feel rather exposed compared to jeans or skirts.
I have that book you mentioned. Unfortunately the usual effect of self-help books on me is that I sit in a comfy chair, reading them, in a pleasant reverie of thinking how nice it would be if I followed all the advice. THen I do nothing. But it's always a pleasant time.
It's cool that you bought fabric. Do you really sew clothes? I love the 30s and 40s styles too. I like how in some of the 20s-30s styles, they are just comfy baggy dresses, yet with great lines and details, and the women don't even appear to be wearing bras or corsets or anything. Very elegant and feminine yet comfy.
Posted by BeardedLady on December 20, 2002, at 7:04:29
In reply to Re: Gabbi X2...and everyone else...loungewear... » Medusa, posted by Tabitha on December 19, 2002, at 11:40:17
I have two pairs of elastic waist, flair bottom velour pants in black and silver-grey from the limited. I have a pair of navy blue from Jones NY, and a beautiful whiteish pair with designs on the ankles from JJill. (For Iso, those were all absolutely marked down. Way down. The JJill pants were originally $58, I think, and I paid $12.)
Dark colors don't show butt. And light ones make you look huge, especially when they are huge, but I didn't care that day.
Medusa, make those velour pants. They're the best. You'll be feeling yourself up all day.
beardy
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