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Posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 15:17:50
First I was told I had severe depression and was untreatable due to my horrible past.
Then I was told I had severe depression AND Borderline Personality Disorder.
Today, yet another new diagnosis. This time I am BiPolar II with Complex PTSD and maybe also BPD (too early to tell) and not sure what happened to the severe depression.
Now I have to do some net research on my new diagnosis and try to understand this one.
Will anybody ever know what's wrong with me before it's too late????
Angel Girl
Posted by tina on July 2, 2002, at 15:46:42
In reply to Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 15:17:50
Doctors are big fans of the almighty GUESS. I don't think a diagnosis is important, just that you get the help you need. I hope this new dx helps that happen.
Posted by Mandy on July 2, 2002, at 16:05:21
In reply to Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 15:17:50
Boy, do I know how you feel. I was told I had major depression for last 10 years, but last three years have been hell trying to find AD that would work--prozac seemed to poop out. After a suicide attempt in May, I am now told that I am a form of Bipolar. It is hard to accept a new diagnosis, but a bit of a relief because maybe the new meds will work and I will feel normal, whatever that is. I hope things go well for you
Posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 17:06:30
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Mandy on July 2, 2002, at 16:05:21
It's not so much the new diagnosis that bothers me it's the ever-changing diagnosis and being passed from one pdoc to another and still not yet finding one that will admit to feeling qualified to deal with my 'complex issues'. Can my 'issues' be so unique that nobody else has ever had them???? And still I'm on the wrong meds and nobody will change them because they aren't going to continue to be 'my' pdoc to do the follow-up.
I don't care what my diagnosis is, no matter how bad or dismal, just give me the right meds, the right therapy and help me get better.
I've been pushed around from dr to dr since last October and still no further ahead.
I only have one comment to make:
THE CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM SUCKS!!!! JMO!!!
Angel Girl
Posted by oracle on July 2, 2002, at 17:20:20
In reply to Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 15:17:50
> First I was told I had severe depression and was untreatable due to my horrible past.
I would throw this one out. No doc worth seeing
would say this. Clearly this person cannot help you.
Posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 17:25:02
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by oracle on July 2, 2002, at 17:20:20
> > First I was told I had severe depression and was untreatable due to my horrible past.
>
> I would throw this one out. No doc worth seeing
> would say this. Clearly this person cannot help you.oracle
Oh, I am in total agreement with you. He had the nerve to say that to me when he KNEW I was extremely suicidal. What kind of f'ing pdoc would do that?????
Angel Girl
Posted by ShelliR on July 2, 2002, at 18:44:56
In reply to Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 15:17:50
Angel Girl,
Sometimes psychiatrists give the diagnosis of border line when they don't know how to help their patient. That way it sounds like the patient's fault, not theirs. Same with the doctor who said you couldn't get better because of your past. I think that was his insecurity showing, certainly not reality
Shelli
Posted by Katt on July 2, 2002, at 20:59:08
In reply to Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 15:17:50
Once you get the borderline diagnosis, no other dx will override it. No other dx will hide it. no treatment will treat. even worse, no amount of white out will remove it from your records. i have the dx and it has been superglued to my records.
Posted by EmilyAnn on July 3, 2002, at 22:07:05
In reply to Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 15:17:50
Angel,
I understand how you feel.
I was diagnosed with clinical depression, boarderline personality disorder, bipolar, bipolar II, and PTSD at different times.If it is any consolation, one of my pscychiatrist once told me not to focus so much on what the diagnosis is but on how to help the problematic symptoms.
It's hard not to focus on the former, because we need to know what we have in order to know how to treat it most effectively (at least for me that is the case). But I think her point is try to focus on the solution rather than the problem (I'm not too good at this!).
Hope that helps!
Posted by tina on July 4, 2002, at 13:17:48
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! :(, posted by Angel Girl on July 2, 2002, at 17:06:30
CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM SUCKS!!!!!!
Gotta agree with you there Angelgirl. I get bounced around alot too. I've never had a proper diagnosis and I've been "crazy" since '89. I do hope you find what you need though. It would be nice if something good happened for you.
Best of luck.
Posted by Angel Girl on July 4, 2002, at 20:29:38
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! :( » Angel Girl, posted by tina on July 4, 2002, at 13:17:48
Tina
WOW!!! 1989, that's a long time to be tossed around through the system. I guess I should not feel so bad about mine now. Do you live in a large city?? I live in Toronto and I just found out that that is part of my problem. You would think living in a large city as Toronto, that there would be a lot of resources available. The irony is that since it's such a large city that there is more demand than there are resources. I'm told that I need 'immediate' care and that it is crucial that I get on the right medications now but yet, that is not going to happen. I have yet to find a doctor to take on my 'delicate'and'complex' case. Don't I feel special??? NOT!!!!
I wish you well and great luck in finding the help you need. The system may be free but that doesn't help much when you can't get in anywhere. I guess you get what you pay for.
Angel Girl
Posted by tina on July 5, 2002, at 7:33:39
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! :( - tina, posted by Angel Girl on July 4, 2002, at 20:29:38
I live in Ottawa Angelgirl.
I've actually had one or two docs tell me that they "don't want to take me on" Like I'm so terribly complex that they can't manage me........geez.
Oh well, you said it....it's free. I've given up on getting meds cuz no one will give me any so I'm seeing a social worker just to 'talk' every week. She's nice but I pay her out of my own pocket. I need meds but what can I do if no doc will give me any?
Such has been my conundrum for 13 years now. I do hope you have better luck.
take care Angel
tina
Posted by Angel Girl on July 9, 2002, at 12:33:50
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! » Angel Girl, posted by tina on July 5, 2002, at 7:33:39
tina
If you're willing to come to Toronto I can give you the info for a place that you can get properly assessed but is there not anywhere in Ottawa that will do that??? Although now that I think about it, when I went for my first orientation at the place I went to, there was a girl there who came from Midland. That shocked me because they have a huge psychiatric hospital yet she had to come all the way down to Toronto.
I have the same problem with getting a pdoc. I'm 'too complex'. Now I have a pdoc from the place that I was assessed at trying to find me one. I felt he showed a sense of urgency to finding the 'right' pdoc for me that specializes in my problems and getting me on a mood stabilizer immediately. Alas, I'm still waiting.
Have you not been able to find any pdoc to take you on??? Worst case scenerio, you could get your meds from your GP as I have had to do. The big drawback to that, is my GP put me on the meds and I'm at the point that they are far from working and he has come to the end of his expertise in that area and no longer makes any changes. So here I am on meds that have horrible side effects and I'm extremely suicidal once again and nobody is looking after me.
You could also look for a therapist that is covered by the government. I had one before but I hated her style. So right now I'm without anyone. :(
If I can help you get a diagnosis, let me know. I think it is a travesty that you have been trying to get help since 89 and can't find it.
And again I'll repeat
THE CANADIAN MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM SUCKS!!!!
Angel Girl
Posted by tina on July 10, 2002, at 21:20:57
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! - tina, posted by Angel Girl on July 9, 2002, at 12:33:50
Angel
There are lots of places that will give you a diagnosis but I've been to them and they say I haven't got one specific condition that they can pigeon hole me into. What a crock. The canadian mental health system sucks for sure!!!I have been given meds by my GP in the past but she admits that she has no expertise in psychopharmacology and won't prescribe anything else. She wants me to see a psychopharmacologist but I can't get in for months. She has tried to rush me in but they are so damned busy these days.
I have a social worker who sees me every week just to talk about stuff. I have some abuse in my past and she specialises in that kind of therapy. She can't prescribe meds and doesn't want to. She's very nice though. I look forward to my appointments with her.I hope you get the help you need soon Angel. I think it's so important that someone in pain get immediate care. It so pisses me off that the mental health community doesn't get that. They are so outside of reality sometimes, especially the psychiatrists that I've been to. I have yet to meet one who gave a damn about me.
Don't give up Angel. Make some more noise. Scream if you have to. You deserve help and care and kindness and I pray that you get it soon.
take care
tina
Posted by Angel Girl on July 12, 2002, at 21:24:35
In reply to Re: Yet another new diagnosis! » Angel Girl, posted by tina on July 10, 2002, at 21:20:57
tina
I'm glad you have found somebody to help you with the therapy end of it at least. I hope you find somebody soon for the meds. I'm told the same thing, waiting lists are months long. They know I'm extremely suicidal but yet I'm falling through the cracks. WTF!!!!!
Can't you hear me screaming all the way over there in Ottawa??????
Angel Girl
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