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Posted by alexandra_k on December 27, 2013, at 22:32:27
so... i lost track... are you still working with your old t or have you upgraded or....
and how old is your son? almost ready for college?
Posted by 10derheart on December 28, 2013, at 3:41:11
In reply to dinah?, posted by alexandra_k on December 27, 2013, at 22:32:27
I dunno.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1056165.html
She was really really really quite serious this time.
I hope she responds, but my gut says not here, not yet anyway.
Maybe some day. I will babblemail you....
Posted by alexandra_k on December 31, 2013, at 2:26:26
In reply to Re: dinah? » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on December 28, 2013, at 3:41:11
well yes, i did see that. and i know that she was serious. really very.
but i also know that i've been very serious. really, very. about leaving. at various points.
and still... here i am. and i was hoping that here too, she would be.
i would like to see her moderate a board the way she wants it moderated, actually. with bob's help, of course.
i'm pretty sure i wouldn't last very long amongst it, to be sure. i mean, i didn't exactly last very long amongst babble. the way babble used to be.
i don't know what to say. but i miss her. she helped me a lot. helped me see things differently, sometimes. uncomfortably... but invaluably... i miss her. she was good for me.
i guess i was just hoping she might be lured back...
Posted by 10derheart on December 31, 2013, at 13:04:08
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by alexandra_k on December 31, 2013, at 2:26:26
>>i guess i was just hoping she might be lured back...
Yeah. I hope so, too. I just don't remember her actually self-blocking before. It seems like a....turning point.
:-(
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 31, 2013, at 14:38:47
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by alexandra_k on December 31, 2013, at 2:26:26
> i miss her. she helped me a lot. helped me see things differently, sometimes. uncomfortably... but invaluably... i miss her. she was good for me.
Me, too.
Bob
Posted by Twinleaf on January 1, 2014, at 16:42:03
In reply to Re: dinah, posted by Dr. Bob on December 31, 2013, at 14:38:47
We have lost so many wonderful posters -Dinah most definitely among them.It's easy to say you're sorry she's no longer here, but I think the loss could have been easily avoided if she had been given appropriate recognition and respect by you for the important role she played in trying to help carry out your administrative policies. The last series of posts before she blocked herself seemed to me to be completely lacking in appreciation and respect for her and the other deputies, all of whom appear to have been extremely hurt and disillusioned by your interactions with them - all while you were focussing almost entirely on Lou, and breaking your own long-standing administrative policies in order to accommodate him alone.
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 1, 2014, at 20:32:01
In reply to Re: dinah » Dr. Bob, posted by Twinleaf on January 1, 2014, at 16:42:03
> We have lost so many wonderful posters -Dinah most definitely among them.It's easy to say you're sorry she's no longer here, but I think the loss could have been easily avoided if she had been given appropriate recognition and respect by you for the important role she played in trying to help carry out your administrative policies. The last series of posts before she blocked herself seemed to me to be completely lacking in appreciation and respect for her and the other deputies, all of whom appear to have been extremely hurt and disillusioned by your interactions with them - all while you were focussing almost entirely on Lou, and breaking your own long-standing administrative policies in order to accommodate him alone.
Twinleaf,
You wrote,[...wonderful posters-Dinah...breaking your own longstanding administrative policies (to accommodate Lou)...]
If you could post answers to the following, I could respond accordingly.
True or False:
A. The following post by Dinah makes her a wonderful poster.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20131211/msgs/1055625.html
Fill in:
B. The long-standing administrative policies that were broken to accommodate me, were:
___________________________________________________________________________________________
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 1, 2014, at 20:39:40
In reply to Lou's response-blehmvkdm » Twinleaf, posted by Lou Pilder on January 1, 2014, at 20:32:01
> > We have lost so many wonderful posters -Dinah most definitely among them.It's easy to say you're sorry she's no longer here, but I think the loss could have been easily avoided if she had been given appropriate recognition and respect by you for the important role she played in trying to help carry out your administrative policies. The last series of posts before she blocked herself seemed to me to be completely lacking in appreciation and respect for her and the other deputies, all of whom appear to have been extremely hurt and disillusioned by your interactions with them - all while you were focussing almost entirely on Lou, and breaking your own long-standing administrative policies in order to accommodate him alone.
> Twinleaf,
> You wrote,[...wonderful posters-Dinah...breaking your own longstanding administrative policies (to accommodate Lou)...]
> If you could post answers to the following, I could respond accordingly.
> True or False:
> A. The following post by Dinah makes her a wonderful poster.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20131211/msgs/1055625.html
> Fill in:
> B. The long-standing administrative policies that were broken to accommodate me, were:
> _____________________________________________
>
> ______________________________________________
>
> Lou
correction:
>
>http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20131211/msgs/1056341.html
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 3, 2014, at 18:03:42
In reply to correction: Lou's response-blehmvkdm, posted by Lou Pilder on January 1, 2014, at 20:39:40
> > Fill in:
> > B. The long-standing administrative policies that were broken to accommodate me, were:
> > _____________________________________________
> >
> > ______________________________________________
> >
> > Lou
> correction:
> >
> >http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20131211/msgs/1056341.htmlI'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding administrative policies to Psycho-Babble Administration. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20131217/msgs/1057668.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 3, 2014, at 18:08:56
In reply to Re: dinah » Dr. Bob, posted by Twinleaf on January 1, 2014, at 16:42:03
> I think the loss could have been easily avoided if she had been given appropriate recognition and respect by you for the important role she played in trying to help carry out your administrative policies. The last series of posts before she blocked herself seemed to me to be completely lacking in appreciation and respect for her and the other deputies ... all while you were ... breaking your own long-standing administrative policies in order to accommodate him alone.
Please don't post anything that could lead others (including me) to feel accused.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express yourself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
PS: This block is the result of one action, but its length is the result of a pattern of actions. The block length formula:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce
takes into account how long the previous block was, how long it's been since the previous block, and how uncivil the current post is:
duration of previous block = 1 week
period of time since previous block = 3 weeks
severity = 2 (default)
block length = 1.92 rounded = 2 weeks
Posted by SLS on January 3, 2014, at 19:01:13
In reply to Re: dinah » Dr. Bob, posted by Twinleaf on January 1, 2014, at 16:42:03
:-(
- Scott
Posted by alexandra_k on January 17, 2014, at 0:07:48
In reply to Re: dinah » Dr. Bob, posted by Twinleaf on January 1, 2014, at 16:42:03
> I think the loss could have been easily avoided if she had been given appropriate recognition and respect by you for the important role she played in trying to help carry out your administrative policies. The last series of posts before she blocked herself seemed to me to be completely lacking in appreciation and respect for her and the other deputies, all of whom appear to have been extremely hurt and disillusioned by your interactions with them - all while you were focussing almost entirely on Lou, and breaking your own long-standing administrative policies in order to accommodate him alone.
I know that it is a common thing that... When a friend is hurting... And a friend says they are hurting because of y then... In order to show support toward friend one feels one must rail against the intrinsic badness of y...
And I know that you mean to support / show friendship to Dinah...
But...
Do you really believe the above to be true?
Really?
???
Because that isn't what I see.
I miss Dinah a lot. And... I think that Bob does, too. But that is different from being willing to do anything in order to keep the relationship.
Dinah wants things moderated a certain way... Bob has offered her a board to moderate as she sees fit (with his support). But no... Dinah wants ALL boards moderated as she sees fit. Otherwise... She won't post.
Anyway...
I thought that Bob was doing his best to be understanding... To understand her position as best he could and to accommodate it as best he could (e.g., with the offer of moderating a board how she sees fit / something along the lines of a refuge board).
And... You just... Ah... Sh*t all over that effort. I don't quite know what to say...
I do miss Dinah and I wish she would come back... Even though, from my perspective, if she got even one board to be moderated as she saw fit... I"m sure I wouldn't last 5 minutes on it. But no... She would rather have me banned from all the boards?
?
I don't know what to say...
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 17, 2014, at 12:27:54
In reply to Re: dinah, posted by alexandra_k on January 17, 2014, at 0:07:48
I think twinny and dinny would be very likely to have their feelings hurt by these statements. Do you think Bob should block you? Why not? Why do you think he is less likely to block you than Dinah would be?
> Anyway...
>
> And... You just... Ah... Sh*t all over that effort. I don't quite know what to say...
>
... She would rather have me banned from all the boards?
>
> ?
>
>
Posted by sigismund on January 17, 2014, at 15:02:37
In reply to Re: dinah, posted by alexandra_k on January 17, 2014, at 0:07:48
>The last series of posts before she blocked herself seemed to me to be completely lacking in appreciation and respect for her
The one that said something like 'Dinah, do you have PTSD'?
Posted by Willful on January 17, 2014, at 15:23:54
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by alexandra_k on December 31, 2013, at 2:26:26
I think many of us have inaccurate memories about our actions here-- correct me if I"m wrong, but you went out of your way to be blocked for a long time by several times flooding the board with raunchy, uncivil posts from various public computers, after you had already been blocked.
I don't get how dinah's style of moderation had anything to do with this. You were blocked for an extended time by Bob and Bob alone, who removed those posts and took the steps he at the time thought appropriate.
The rule about not posting when you're blocked seems pretty standard and hard to argue with. Moreover you were present on psychobabble and posting frequently, for a very long time, before the episodes when you got blocked. So I have to question whether your current stance of admiration for Bob and pointing to Dinah as the cause of your banishment, is not simply ego-syntonic at the moment-- but not in the least historically accurate.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 17, 2014, at 18:33:45
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by Willful on January 17, 2014, at 15:23:54
I wasn't thinking of posts that I made that I knew full well I'd be blocked for (the ones you are talking about). I was thinking of blocks I had prior to those... The ones that came out of the blue, as far as I was concerned. I think they were blocks for saying critical things about the US as an abstract entity (around the time of the war on terror, I believe). Stuff like that. There may have been some blocks given for stuff I said in promotion of my views on atheism, even.
These were all *well before* I gave up trying to be civil. It is *because* of the above (because of my failure to be civil(TM according-to-Bob-at-the-time) together with how much I needed these boards that resulted in my losing it, rather.
I'm not blaming Dinah for any of this. If she wants things to go back to the way things were... Around then... With people being blocked for saying things about Bush (because some posters support Bush and any critique of Bush was taken personally by them as a critique on them) and so on... Well... Bob has offered her a board that can be like that. If 10 and PC and her and... However many other people would feel safer there...
But they seem to think that ALL the boards must be like that or else they don't want to be here at all. Which I find strange. Because I'm not saying ALL the boards must NOT be like that or I won't be here at all. I don't quite understand why people won't take the compromise.
Posted by sigismund on January 17, 2014, at 22:42:58
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by alexandra_k on January 17, 2014, at 18:33:45
>I think they were blocks for saying critical things about the US as an abstract entity (around the time of the war on terror, I believe).
As you might remember, li'll jimmi was blocked for saying of Bush and Cheney 'Well, they are running the country.' Bob assumed (interestingly) that he had said 'they are ruining the country'. Subsequently unblocked, but it gives some idea of how quick on the draw it was.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 18, 2014, at 1:36:29
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by sigismund on January 17, 2014, at 22:42:58
> >I think they were blocks for saying critical things about the US as an abstract entity (around the time of the war on terror, I believe).
>
> As you might remember, li'll jimmi was blocked for saying of Bush and Cheney 'Well, they are running the country.' Bob assumed (interestingly) that he had said 'they are ruining the country'. Subsequently unblocked, but it gives some idea of how quick on the draw it was.ahaha, yes i remember that. freudian slip on the uptake, that was. i think bob was taking pretty much anything he could get to cull the numbers...
some like to think of it as the 'good old days'. i prefer to think of it as 'the posting epidemic'.
Posted by baseball55 on January 18, 2014, at 20:10:52
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by alexandra_k on January 18, 2014, at 1:36:29
Why do these discussions of blocking policies - which properly belong on administration -- constantly crop up on psychology?
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2014, at 3:02:56
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by baseball55 on January 18, 2014, at 20:10:52
> > > As you might remember, li'll jimmi was blocked for saying of Bush and Cheney 'Well, they are running the country.' Bob assumed (interestingly) that he had said 'they are ruining the country'. Subsequently unblocked, but it gives some idea of how quick on the draw it was.
> >
> > ahaha, yes i remember that. freudian slip on the uptake, that was.
> >
> > some like to think of it as the 'good old days'. i prefer to think of it as 'the posting epidemic'.
>
> Why do these discussions of blocking policies - which properly belong on administration -- constantly crop up on psychology?Maybe they're discussions about psychology? Freudian slips, how different people can interpret the same thing in different ways, etc.?
Bob
Posted by HomelyCygnet on January 24, 2014, at 15:57:21
In reply to Re: dinah?, posted by Dr. Bob on January 19, 2014, at 3:02:56
This thread is continued on Admin. Bob forgot to post a link.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20131217/msgs/1059104.html
This is the end of the thread.
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