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Posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 8:15:35
Or at least I'm trying to see it as funny. Truth be told my feelings are still more than a bit hurt.
My therapist started getting drowsy again. I snapped my fingers at him, and he apologized and got up to walk around a bit. He claimed that he was just sleepy from a late night, but I reminded him that he had previously told me that my voice was ummm.... "soothing".
We had been discussing my lack of confidence, amounting to self hatred almost, in social situations. Coupled with a fair amount of self confidence in other areas. I told him, joking, that despite my therapist's falling asleep on me, I thought that if people got to know me well enough, that they would discover that I was interesting enough.
He started musing, and said that yes he was sleepy, but that he didn't have this problem with all his clients. That he might be sleepy on a given day but think that he was in a good place, and have no trouble with his 8:00 or 9:00 appointment, but when it came to my appointment, he'd get sleepy. He swore it had nothing to do with the topic of the conversation. That there was something about the pitch and pacing (ie flatness) of my voice that would make me ideal for preparing a self hypnosis tape. He said that sometimes he thinks "Oh noooo. Please don't start *talking*." Or possibly it was "Oh noooo. She's going to start *talking*."
Now mind you, he'd said a lot of this before. And it didn't really hurt. But there was something about that last sentence that did hurt. "Please don't start talking" from your therapist...
When he saw I was upset, he was really upset himself. He said that he was exaggerating, that it wasn't my responsibility at all, that it was probably because he felt so comfortable with me that his sleepiness came out. He spent the rest of the session asking me if I was ok, and how we could repair this and put it in the past. My only suggestion was time.
I'm trying really hard to see the humor in this. I think that's what would help me best. Really it *is* funny. My therapist telling me he dreads hearing my voice in the midst of a discussion about my social anxiety.
Does my therapist have the foot in mouth championship ring? Does anyone else have a therapist who is a contender?
(In context, it seems unlikely that he said this to get me to change my voice because he thought it might help my social anxiety. I'm not sure that it would help me to think of it that way. I can't really change my voice. I've tried when he first told me about my voice, and I just can't. I also can't do proper accents or voice impersonations. He told me at that time that he wasn't asking me to change my voice.)
Posted by Solstice on November 6, 2010, at 8:51:09
In reply to Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 8:15:35
That stings :(
I hope he does something therapeutically heroic to help repair that fairly significant lapse in judgment. If he thinks he's too comfortable, then it might be his job to take a few minutes before he goes out to get you to center himself and remind himself that he is your therapist, and his job is to be mindful of you and your needs during every minute that you are paying for his professinal attention. He could wear rubberbands to snap himself before he gets you - whatever it takes - but you deserve for him to MAKE himself give you the best he has to give. Period. None of it is your responsibility.
Solstice
Posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 9:28:29
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » Dinah, posted by Solstice on November 6, 2010, at 8:51:09
Well, to be fair to him, I do press for a greater degree of honesty than many clients might like. I want him to tell me when he's angry or irritated with me. I was delighted when he admitted to occasionally being bored, although perhaps it's just as well that he still refuses to say he's currently bored. I was happy when he said what he said about my voice being soothing, and quit excusing his sleepiness by saying that it was because he'd had a heavy lunch, then when we switched to morning sessions, that it was because he hadn't slept well. I always appreciate it when he acknowledges the truth of what I perceive, rather than try to tell me that what I know isn't true at all.
But to me it should be obvious that there is a difference between acknowledging that my voice makes him sleepy, and saying that he dreads hearing me speak or thinks "oh no, please don't talk". The whole therapy arrangement is built on talking. How am I ever to speak again without feeling like I'm doing something he dreads?
My therapist is prone to this sort of thing, but I would think even he would understand that you don't tell a client that you dread hearing her voice, for whatever reason - even if it's just because you'll feel sleepy and embarrass yourself as a professional. "Please don't talk" is something that ought not come out of a therapist's mouth. Period.
I know he's fond of me, and doesn't really want me to stop talking to him. Which is why I think he deserves special honors for foot in mouth gaffes. He really has received more than his share of talent in this area.
Posted by Solstice on November 6, 2010, at 13:07:27
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » Solstice, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 9:28:29
I've watched you for a long, long time Dinah. And I don't think I've seen anyone who can so elegantly transform a paint spill into a Picasso - quite like you can.
When I grow up, I wanna be like that. Maybe if I hang around you, I'll pick up on the rhythm of that quality and learn to incorporate it within myself.Solstice
Posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 17:36:34
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » Dinah, posted by Solstice on November 6, 2010, at 13:07:27
There's no point in my having any other kind of reaction. It wouldn't gain me anything.
He clearly feels bad about it. And I forgive him, if forgiveness is even needed. It'll just be a hard thing to forget. It's easier to find it funny.
Posted by Solstice on November 6, 2010, at 18:32:37
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 17:36:34
> There's no point in my having any other kind of reaction. It wouldn't gain me anything.
>
> He clearly feels bad about it. And I forgive him, if forgiveness is even needed. It'll just be a hard thing to forget. It's easier to find it funny.:) and he pro'ly didn't mean it like it came out. Like you pointed out, though, those particular words went like an arrow to a very vulnerable spot for you. How do you forget the words? How do you prevent it from augmenting sensitivities that didn't need to be augmented? That's where I'll keep my fingers crossed that he will feel bad enough to wrestle with it in his mind and heart and eventually come up with something therapeutically heroic to deflate the power of those particular words on a vulnerable place in your heart. It's not about perfection... rather it's the 'care' that fuels the effort to bind a wound one caused.
Solstice
Posted by Daisym on November 6, 2010, at 23:34:03
In reply to Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 8:15:35
Oh dear. I'd say that was both feet...
Can you gently suggest supervision? (but not really mean it?) I think I might admit that I dread when *he* starts talking too - because he is so comfortable.
You have a great skill to convert hurt to humor. But please do acknowledge your hurt feelings even as you let him off the hook. It is good practice for standing up for yourself. :)
Posted by workinprogress on November 7, 2010, at 1:55:07
In reply to Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by Dinah on November 6, 2010, at 8:15:35
Oh Dinah.... I agree with Solstice... you are so good at making a "mistake" look ok/looking on the bright side. I so admire that in you- given my tendency (that I'm working on) to see things in black and white and assume the worst, particularly when it comes to what my therapist is thinking/feeling about ME!
Anyway, I know from what you've written before that you do KNOW that he likes/cares about you and certainly didn't really mean what he said. But wow... holy sting!!! I think you're right about the time thing. I bet for a time you'll think of it and wonder and have to remind yourself of what you know of your relationship and your experience with him overall... that "good enough" thing. He is after all... as he's proven, quite human. And that includes foot in mouth. But overall, with time, this will fade away and hopefully you'll still be left with knowing your relationship is safe. It's too bad he does this and rocks it every once in a while though (because otherwise he seems so good).
I certainly don't have anything to add, just hang in there and keep taking it in stride like you are.
WIP
> Or at least I'm trying to see it as funny. Truth be told my feelings are still more than a bit hurt.
>
> My therapist started getting drowsy again. I snapped my fingers at him, and he apologized and got up to walk around a bit. He claimed that he was just sleepy from a late night, but I reminded him that he had previously told me that my voice was ummm.... "soothing".
>
> We had been discussing my lack of confidence, amounting to self hatred almost, in social situations. Coupled with a fair amount of self confidence in other areas. I told him, joking, that despite my therapist's falling asleep on me, I thought that if people got to know me well enough, that they would discover that I was interesting enough.
>
> He started musing, and said that yes he was sleepy, but that he didn't have this problem with all his clients. That he might be sleepy on a given day but think that he was in a good place, and have no trouble with his 8:00 or 9:00 appointment, but when it came to my appointment, he'd get sleepy. He swore it had nothing to do with the topic of the conversation. That there was something about the pitch and pacing (ie flatness) of my voice that would make me ideal for preparing a self hypnosis tape. He said that sometimes he thinks "Oh noooo. Please don't start *talking*." Or possibly it was "Oh noooo. She's going to start *talking*."
>
> Now mind you, he'd said a lot of this before. And it didn't really hurt. But there was something about that last sentence that did hurt. "Please don't start talking" from your therapist...
>
> When he saw I was upset, he was really upset himself. He said that he was exaggerating, that it wasn't my responsibility at all, that it was probably because he felt so comfortable with me that his sleepiness came out. He spent the rest of the session asking me if I was ok, and how we could repair this and put it in the past. My only suggestion was time.
>
> I'm trying really hard to see the humor in this. I think that's what would help me best. Really it *is* funny. My therapist telling me he dreads hearing my voice in the midst of a discussion about my social anxiety.
>
> Does my therapist have the foot in mouth championship ring? Does anyone else have a therapist who is a contender?
>
> (In context, it seems unlikely that he said this to get me to change my voice because he thought it might help my social anxiety. I'm not sure that it would help me to think of it that way. I can't really change my voice. I've tried when he first told me about my voice, and I just can't. I also can't do proper accents or voice impersonations. He told me at that time that he wasn't asking me to change my voice.)
Posted by Solstice on November 7, 2010, at 9:41:11
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by Daisym on November 6, 2010, at 23:34:03
Well Dinah... I think Daisy here has a perfect Dinah-ish response! If he's feeling as guilty as I hope he feels, saying what Daisy suggested might be just the thing to open up a good 'lead' into a serious discussion about him perhaps needing to tighten up on his commitment to the therapy. I'd just hate to see your long and fruitful therapeutic relationship with him slip into an un-therapeutic relationship and you to eventually leave it with unresolved hurts. Daisy's comment about standing up for yourself is true. Speaking up for your need that he figure out a way to be fully present despite whatever you or he think about your voice's rhythm or 'soothing' quality is crucial! It is HIS responsibility to address his problem... and it is HIS problem, not yours. You can forgive him, without letting him off the hook. He needs to address it STAT. You need to know that you matter enough for him to do whatever it takes. 'Laid back' might be an excuse for un-therapeutic behavior on his part that you are a little too willing to offer and he is way too willing to accept... which prolongs a dynamic that needs to change. You need him to wake up! And that is a bona fide legitimate expectation. He is responsible for ensuring that you get the best quality of the agreed-upon number of minutes for the agreed-upon dollar amount.
Would you go to the store and make excuses for a butcher who frequently gave you spoiled meat for your $100 (or whatever)? Would you say "Oh well, the butcher probably just wasn't paying attention and picked the meat he gave me out of his throw away pile, it wasn't on purpose to hurt me." Or, would you say "Look - I expect fresh, un-spoiled meat for my money.. each and every time I pay you."
I don't want to come off as too strong for you in a way that's not helpful to you... but I hope you will speak up! Maybe his boat needs to be rocked a bit.
Maybe send him this thread....
Solstice
> Oh dear. I'd say that was both feet...
>
> Can you gently suggest supervision? (but not really mean it?) I think I might admit that I dread when *he* starts talking too - because he is so comfortable.
>
> You have a great skill to convert hurt to humor. But please do acknowledge your hurt feelings even as you let him off the hook. It is good practice for standing up for yourself. :)
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 10:12:33
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » Daisym, posted by Solstice on November 7, 2010, at 9:41:11
I do understand what you're saying, and theoretically I agree.
It *is* a legitimate expectation that he stay awake. I know it. He knows it. Heaven knows he tries. I politely do not "notice" when he takes B-12 pills before he sits down, or chews gum, or scratches lightly at his arms. I think his annoying personal grooming habits come from a desire to stay awake. I suppose it's harder to fall asleep as you file your nails. I readily mention when he seems to be having trouble staying awake, and he'll stand and stretch or walk around. He never tries to avoid the fact that he's failing in his responsibility. He even offered this last session to only charge me half price on any session where he falls asleep since, he pointed out, I seem to believe him motivated by money.
It's not that he doesn't try. It's that he can't. So at that point what do I do? I could leave, but I don't see that as being in my best interests. I could find a therapist who never falls asleep. But therapists aren't washing machines. I can't just switch to another when this one is malfunctioning. We have a relationship of many years that we've built with care. That doesn't come with another model. I've had other therapists, and one who fights sleep is preferable to one who isn't my therapist.
What's the point in insisting that he do something he can't do? I have no way of following up that wouldn't harm me far worse than nodding off.
Also, there are many areas that I should do better. I try to force myself. I beat myself up over it. But my will is insufficient to achieve my goal. I would feel bad to judge him by standards I could never live up to myself.
I don't particularly like the falling asleep. What I'm more upset about is the words he used. It may be a small difference in meaning, but there is a huge difference to me between saying that my voice is hypnotic and puts him to sleep and saying "oh no, please don't talk". Maybe it's silly for me to feel that way.
I can't get everything I want from one therapist. I have to decide which things are most important to me.
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 10:20:45
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » Dinah, posted by workinprogress on November 7, 2010, at 1:55:07
Yes, in other ways he is very good, and very good for me.
It really was funny, so if I can hang on to the humor in it, the sting will fade.
His face was priceless when he realized I was upset and maybe tearful, and probably mentally reviewed what he'd said. I could see what he was thinking as if little thought bubbles were floating above him.
There was of course "Oh no. I've made her feel bad. That's the last thing I want to do."
And "What kind of therapist makes his client feel worse about herself instead of better?" He actually mentioned that thought out loud, but it would have been obvious even if he hadn't.
There was definitely "Oh no, this is going to be on Babble tonight."
And equally definitely "She is never going to let me forget this. To my dying day I'm going to be hearing 'Would you prefer I not talk?' or '... when my own therapists dreads hearing me speak.'"
Then finally a shift to "Ok, now what am I going to do to fix this."
My therapist tries to put on an impassive face, but for the most part, he is so easy to read.
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 10:27:55
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by Daisym on November 6, 2010, at 23:34:03
> Oh dear. I'd say that was both feet...
Yes, poor dear. I'm glad he promised not to read Babble. Otherwise he might be tempted to see what's being said about him.
> Can you gently suggest supervision? (but not really mean it?)
I think he might take me up on it, he feels so guilty. I would hate to see him actually do it. As Annierose pointed out elsewhere, that could lead to less than desirable results from a client's point of view.
> I think I might admit that I dread when *he* starts talking too - because he is so comfortable.
Oh, I like that! I just may say that.
> You have a great skill to convert hurt to humor. But please do acknowledge your hurt feelings even as you let him off the hook. It is good practice for standing up for yourself. :)
Yes, I do acknowledge my hurt feelings. I even expressed them to him. I'll check next session to make sure he understands what caused the hurt, as I might not have been as clear in the moment. He does get a wee bit too comfy with me sometimes. Apparently such a thing is possible. Who knew?
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 13:21:54
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » workinprogress, posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 10:20:45
Actually, I think the look of horror came first. "Oh no, this is going to be on Babble tonight." and "She is never going to let me forget this. To my dying day I'm going to be hearing 'Would you prefer I not talk?' or '... when my own therapists dreads hearing me speak.'" I suppose that's reasonable as a first response.
Then came the look of concern and regret. "Oh no. I've made her feel bad. That's the last thing I want to do."
Then the look of self recrimination? "What kind of therapist makes his client feel worse about herself instead of better?" It wasn't that different from the regret, but he seemed momentarily more focused on himself than on me.
And finally, the shrugging of of recriminations and switch to determination. "Ok, now what am I going to do to fix this." At that point, the focus definitely switched to me.
How can I help but like him? We all screw up sometimes, and plant our feet firmly in our mouth. (Even if he is especially good at it.) His response was pretty much what it ought to be.
But that sentence. Geesh. It's going to be hard to forget the sentence. And the tone. With the emphasis on Nooo and Taaalk. Sigh. It's going to be a challenge to forget that.
Posted by lucielu2 on November 7, 2010, at 19:23:31
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 13:21:54
Dinah,
While I have appreciated your T's humanity and his willingness to share it with you, I think that comment is going to take some processing. I think suggesting he check out some supervision for his counter-transference shouldn't be out of the question. There is *nothing wrong,* Dinah, with having a quiet soothing voice - for goodness sakes! Would he do better with a rasping loud voice? It is not your job to keep him awake, the fact is that none of us are allowed to doze on the job. That is his thing and he needs to tend to it.
Having said that, in my earliest years with my T, he twice fell asleep on me during sessions. I thought he was just paying such extreme attention that he had his eyes closed - lol! I have given him a lot of grief over the years for it. I think his then teen-aged child had more to do with it than I did.
Lucie
Posted by emmanuel98 on November 7, 2010, at 20:01:31
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by lucielu2 on November 7, 2010, at 19:23:31
In six years, my T has never fallen asleep, looked tired or even yawned. And, according to him, he only feels this way with you. He gets like this whether you see him early or late in the day. I agree, he should get supervision and figure out what it is that makes him feel tired with you and what he can do to help both you and himself. I can't believe he said what he said. If my T said that, I'd never forgive or forget.
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 21:12:30
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by emmanuel98 on November 7, 2010, at 20:01:31
How would it benefit me to neither forgive nor forget?
Because of something foolish that he regretted saying immediately?
That's not how I live my life. I forgive when there is regret, a taking of responsibility, and an attempt to change. I try to forget to maintain a relationship that is a good one.
I don't even understand the concept of remaining angry with someone who cares about me and someone I care about because of one thing they said, or even a tendency to fall asleep in my presence. He didn't do either on purpose or to hurt me. There are so many good and beneficial things in our relationship and from him as a therapist. The scales are nowhere near balanced.
I don't think the choice of not forgetting or forgiving would lead to a more fulfilling life for me.
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 21:16:52
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by lucielu2 on November 7, 2010, at 19:23:31
I have a natural disinclination to involve supervisors in our relationship. I don't even like professional workshops. The last thing I want is a therapist with brand new ideas. Ones that didn't come from me, anyway. :)
I remember once, years ago, my therapist apparently tried some new strategy with me. Or at any rate, he wasn't like himself. I suspiciously demanded whether he'd been to a conference or had gotten supervision. I just hate that.
Posted by lucielu2 on November 7, 2010, at 21:30:13
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » lucielu2, posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 21:16:52
Well, Dinah, you can't blame us for being indignant on your behalf :-)
Posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 21:57:53
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story, posted by lucielu2 on November 7, 2010, at 21:30:13
Definitely not!
I'm indignant too.
Posted by Dinah on November 9, 2010, at 12:27:32
In reply to Re: Foot in mouth - Funny (but not) therapy story » lucielu2, posted by Dinah on November 7, 2010, at 21:57:53
It started off very badly. My therapist had forgotten the entire incident. Eventually he remembered he had said he dreaded seeing me or hearing me speak or something. But he claimed I should have known what he meant, he got defensive, I got upset. Eventually I got angry enough that I whipped out my iPad and opened up this thread.
I read him the original post and asked him if I had accurately represented the situation. He agreed I had. I read each post in the thread, without stopping.
I'll never understand my therapist. I thought he'd be angry that I had exposed his actions to the internet. Instead he approved of my use of Babble. He said he had always thought that this was the best utilization of Babble.
I thought he'd be defensive at the comments, but instead all his defensiveness had dropped. He said he realized, as he had listened, that he had gotten lazy with my therapy. That he doesn't prepare for my sessions as he does for others, and has the idea sometimes that he can come and be himself, and sit in the chair and have a conversation. He said that he should take a moment to center himself, because he realizes that our sessions should, if anything, require more preparation, not less, because we've long since passed the easier parts of therapy. He said he hadn't particularly *liked* being compared to a butcher, but that he understood the point. That he does owe me the best he has to give.
That was the main point he got from the posts, but he also acknowledged that his word choice was very poor and that he had hurt me. Although he was steadfast in stating that he didn't really in any way dread my voice or my sessions. I had him repeat back to me in his own words why what he had said was different from other things he had said, and we discussed what sort of honesty might be hurtful. He also gave me permission to never let him forget it, and to jab him with it whenever I felt the need. :)
I told him I really didn't want him to get supervision, and he said he wouldn't. That he felt rather thoroughly supervised after hearing Babblers' comments. :)
Then he told me how glad he was to have a client who was strong enough to talk to him about these things, and not to run away. He said that because of me and my willingness to confront him (and the input of Babblers I presume), he grows as a therapist in ways he otherwise would not.
We ended on a very good note, and I thank all of you for helping us to that conclusion. I'm not going to pretend I believe he'll never fall asleep again. But I'm hoping he won't forget this session anytime soon.
Posted by Solstice on November 9, 2010, at 13:05:55
In reply to Follow-up, posted by Dinah on November 9, 2010, at 12:27:32
Dinah -
I am so proud of you! And I'm so proud of him! This was delightful to read. As for the butcher - well... sometimes 'stark' things are good - they stick with us. He needs to promise himself before he walks out to get you that he's going to give you the freshest, most exquisite piece of meat that he can find within himself that day. No rotten meat for Dinah.
And if he starts getting lazy, tell him you'll let his 'Supervisors' know.
Solstice
> It started off very badly. My therapist had forgotten the entire incident. Eventually he remembered he had said he dreaded seeing me or hearing me speak or something. But he claimed I should have known what he meant, he got defensive, I got upset. Eventually I got angry enough that I whipped out my iPad and opened up this thread.
>
> I read him the original post and asked him if I had accurately represented the situation. He agreed I had. I read each post in the thread, without stopping.
>
> I'll never understand my therapist. I thought he'd be angry that I had exposed his actions to the internet. Instead he approved of my use of Babble. He said he had always thought that this was the best utilization of Babble.
>
> I thought he'd be defensive at the comments, but instead all his defensiveness had dropped. He said he realized, as he had listened, that he had gotten lazy with my therapy. That he doesn't prepare for my sessions as he does for others, and has the idea sometimes that he can come and be himself, and sit in the chair and have a conversation. He said that he should take a moment to center himself, because he realizes that our sessions should, if anything, require more preparation, not less, because we've long since passed the easier parts of therapy. He said he hadn't particularly *liked* being compared to a butcher, but that he understood the point. That he does owe me the best he has to give.
>
> That was the main point he got from the posts, but he also acknowledged that his word choice was very poor and that he had hurt me. Although he was steadfast in stating that he didn't really in any way dread my voice or my sessions. I had him repeat back to me in his own words why what he had said was different from other things he had said, and we discussed what sort of honesty might be hurtful. He also gave me permission to never let him forget it, and to jab him with it whenever I felt the need. :)
>
> I told him I really didn't want him to get supervision, and he said he wouldn't. That he felt rather thoroughly supervised after hearing Babblers' comments. :)
>
> Then he told me how glad he was to have a client who was strong enough to talk to him about these things, and not to run away. He said that because of me and my willingness to confront him (and the input of Babblers I presume), he grows as a therapist in ways he otherwise would not.
>
> We ended on a very good note, and I thank all of you for helping us to that conclusion. I'm not going to pretend I believe he'll never fall asleep again. But I'm hoping he won't forget this session anytime soon.
Posted by gardenergirl on November 9, 2010, at 15:45:34
In reply to Follow-up, posted by Dinah on November 9, 2010, at 12:27:32
Posted by Dinah on November 10, 2010, at 10:16:43
In reply to Good for you! Good for him! Good for Babblers! (nm) » Dinah, posted by gardenergirl on November 9, 2010, at 15:45:34
And Babblers are very very good quite often. :)
Posted by Dinah on November 13, 2010, at 14:30:44
In reply to When he's good, he's very very good, posted by Dinah on November 10, 2010, at 10:16:43
When I walked in to session Friday, I teasingly asked him if he remembered the previous session.
He laughed heartily before saying that he'd have to be have early onset Alzheimers not to remember last session. I asked him if last session was that memorable, and he laughed again saying that it was quite memorable, and in fact would go into the annals of memorable sessions in his career. Then he added that it was also one of his best sessions.
Then he laughed some more.
It still makes me laugh to think of his expression. I do think he learned something. I also think he meant it though that he thought it was a great session. We were very much in tune on Friday.
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