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Posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 9:09:50
first med, then T.
i posted on med board i started pristiq little over two weeks ago.
first day i didn't notice anything, days two-five were really good after that i started to go back down slowly last few days have been cr@p. last two days have had suicidal thoughts again. (though you know i did have emotional trigger to kind of set depression off but that was thursday) and i'm still down).what happened?
last night i took a xanax but poured the whole bottle into my hand and took a looooog look, staring...wanting to, you know. i cant deal with this.
did pristiq poop out already?
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then T., she just got done telling me i can call her anytime. that i could get extra appt with her if i needed one.
well i called her friday cuz i needed one and she was 'booked'. and now with her schedule she's only seeing clients on thurs fridays.it's making me miss my OLD T. the days when i was protected and saw him two and three days a week.
he took me in any time.
he had a paiger that i could call and talk with someone if i was feeling unstable or that person could contact him if i needed to talk with him...
i miss him...I MISS MY OLD T!THERE I SAID IT.
I WANT MY OLD T BACK! i want the protection i had with him.maybe if i felt protected with my psychiatrist than maybe i wouldnt need the protection with my T. but i dont; feel protected in either place.
i feel so vulnerable. and afraid of myself.
i don't know what to do.
tell me what to do.b2c.
Posted by lucie lu on September 8, 2008, at 10:03:41
In reply to med poopout, T poopout, posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 9:09:50
b2c - just a couple of thoughts I had... I don't know what kind of med that is (did you post on the meds board too? I know you use that one too b/c I've posted you there before, I think). First, I do think that any T that leaves a patient in the state you have been in not only should make time to see you but also has some explaining to do! Second, if you ever again feel like taking a handful of pills get yourself to a hospital ASAP. They should understand how bad you feel and give you the help you need to stay safe. Third, if your T continues to be so inaccessible, I think you need to have a frank discussion with her about all this and you may end up having to find someone else either as a supplement to her or a new T altogether.Remind me, what happened to your old T?
Luv ya, Lucie
Posted by JayJ on September 8, 2008, at 10:15:49
In reply to med poopout, T poopout, posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 9:09:50
B2c, Be careful, it may be the meds doing the talking, or at least messing you up.Please take a look at the following:
http://www.drugs.com/pristiq.html
This is part of the description of the effects of pristiq:
"You may have thoughts about suicide when you first start taking an antidepressant, especially if you are younger than 24 years old. Your doctor will need to check you at regular visits for at least the first 12 weeks of treatment.
Call your doctor at once if you have any new or worsening symptoms such as: mood or behavior changes, anxiety, panic attacks, trouble sleeping, or if you feel impulsive, irritable, agitated, hostile, aggressive, restless, hyperactive (mentally or physically), more depressed, or have thoughts about suicide or hurting yourself."
If you experience odd changes in behaviour after starting almost any med, particularly psych-meds, and particularly if the change is for the worse, it is always worthwhile checking out to see if it's you or the med. Sometimes you have to persist despite the side effect, but it's at least worth knowing where some of this stuff may be coming from. You'd think the presciber would warn you about this, but usually they dont't. Perhaps it would help if you talk this out with the psychiatrist, although sometimes they seem oblivious to these kind of problems until you point out the information.
Take good care of yourelf.
JayJ
> first med, then T.
>
> i posted on med board i started pristiq little over two weeks ago.
> first day i didn't notice anything, days two-five were really good after that i started to go back down slowly last few days have been cr@p. last two days have had suicidal thoughts again. (though you know i did have emotional trigger to kind of set depression off but that was thursday) and i'm still down).
>
> what happened?
>
> last night i took a xanax but poured the whole bottle into my hand and took a looooog look, staring...wanting to, you know. i cant deal with this.
>
> did pristiq poop out already?
>
> *****************************
>
> then T., she just got done telling me i can call her anytime. that i could get extra appt with her if i needed one.
> well i called her friday cuz i needed one and she was 'booked'. and now with her schedule she's only seeing clients on thurs fridays.
>
> it's making me miss my OLD T. the days when i was protected and saw him two and three days a week.
> he took me in any time.
> he had a paiger that i could call and talk with someone if i was feeling unstable or that person could contact him if i needed to talk with him...
> i miss him...I MISS MY OLD T!
>
> THERE I SAID IT.
> I WANT MY OLD T BACK! i want the protection i had with him.
>
> maybe if i felt protected with my psychiatrist than maybe i wouldnt need the protection with my T. but i dont; feel protected in either place.
>
> i feel so vulnerable. and afraid of myself.
> i don't know what to do.
> tell me what to do.
>
> b2c.
>
Posted by lucie lu on September 8, 2008, at 10:30:13
In reply to Re: med poopout, T poopout, posted by JayJ on September 8, 2008, at 10:15:49
Posted by lemonaide on September 8, 2008, at 11:28:52
In reply to med poopout, T poopout, posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 9:09:50
Hi B2
I think when your said she had no appointments left, after she told you to call anytime if you needed support, has to feel like she somehow led you on. Now you don't trust she is there for you because she wasn't last week, and now you feel alone and vulnerable. I think some trust was lost last week and you need to talk to her about this.
There may have been some reason she couldn't see you on Friday, maybe she had a doctors appointment after her last session or some other plan she couldn't break. I am sure it had nothing to do with you and it may have have been a fluke. You need to talk to her because you felt scared and alone and ready to end your life. She must know this, B2.
The thing about T's is that they will eventually let us down, it sucks, it hurts, but they are human like us. I think she should at least talked to you more on the phone. What are her phone polices?
B2, many people care about you here, babblemail me anytime because I do care. I usually check my emails more than I come to babble.
Posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 11:30:10
In reply to Re: med poopout, T poopout » B2chica, posted by lucie lu on September 8, 2008, at 10:03:41
my old T moved out of state. :(
but good for him. he moved to sunny california.
i miss his personality.
its like he should have been my twin.
we had so much in common about philosophy and thought and society and stuff. and even death.b2c.
Posted by rskontos on September 8, 2008, at 11:48:15
In reply to Re: med poopout, T poopout » lucie lu, posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 11:30:10
B2c,
I think you need to ask her if she will be able to handle calls anytime as you don't think emergencies you might have will always be on certain days and will she be available. That you needed someone to help you switch back and she wasn't available by appt or phone so what should you do? Based on her answer you might have a better indication of what you can and can't expect from her.
Again, you know how to reach me. I am no T certainly but I do understand switching firsthand. And I know that certain people will always bring me back to myself.
I will tell you, you might need to take a small amount of xanax during the day to help with the switching. I find it works the best for that. So far, no AD's have helped with the dissociation, the xanax helps with the anxiety which I thinks triggers the switching. Not too many AD's I feel work for anxiety. JMHO.
rsk
Posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 12:03:22
In reply to Re: med poopout, T poopout » B2chica, posted by rskontos on September 8, 2008, at 11:48:15
thankyou so much (((((((((rsk.)))))))
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2008, at 12:37:39
In reply to Re: med poopout, T poopout » rskontos, posted by B2chica on September 8, 2008, at 12:03:22
I thought I'd ask if you did go out out town during the weekend any triggeres there? Phillipa
Posted by lucie lu on September 8, 2008, at 13:57:34
In reply to Re: med poopout, T poopout, posted by JayJ on September 8, 2008, at 10:15:49
Jay, a belated welcome to you... you slipped so seamlessly into the thread that I didn't even realize you were a new poster until I saw the green NEW by your name.Look forward to getting to know you and hearing your stories about life and the universe...
Best, Lucie
Posted by lucie lu on September 8, 2008, at 13:58:53
In reply to Re: med poopout, T poopout, posted by lucie lu on September 8, 2008, at 13:57:34
Posted by JayJ on September 9, 2008, at 16:02:46
In reply to oops... above post welcoming Jay... (nm), posted by lucie lu on September 8, 2008, at 13:58:53
Thx, I usually just read and learn here, but I wanted to add my 10c (2c?) for B2c.
Jay
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