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Posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 11:48:21
Bet no one has heard this one. I'm afraid to go upstairs in my own house and won't. I haven't been up there in over a year. And I won't write on paper or write a check in front of any one. I think oh I know I'm totally nuts. Phillipa
Posted by B2chica on December 11, 2007, at 12:06:24
In reply to Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 11:48:21
no not nuts, just fear and anxiety. i have that too. it can be upstairs or like me its when i'm driving i get fear and i have to compulsively lock my car doors. overwhelming sense of fear.
and i can't go to the bathroom in my house when someone is in the next room they have to be far away. (though that can be other issues too).typically the zyprexa i'm on and xanax helps with it.
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do you have a T?
cuz also talking about this stuff does suprisingly help.
b2c.
Posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 12:25:23
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on pape » Phillipa, posted by B2chica on December 11, 2007, at 12:06:24
My t I posted her e-mail on meds and thankfully Dinah referred me to posting policies as I had her name there. Refer to I quit thread she x'd out the names. Thank-you Dinah. She isn't what you all seem to have no compassionate I've told her this and she just says why are you afraid. My answer if I knew I wouldn't be afraid. Phillipa
Posted by rskontos on December 11, 2007, at 12:52:51
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on pape » Phillipa, posted by B2chica on December 11, 2007, at 12:06:24
How about I just got dressed to go to the grocery store and now my stomach and neck hurts. I made coffee instead and said I need to drink it before I go. I hate to go out to public places. Even though we are down to NOTHING in the pantry and refrigerator. Anxiety and anxiety in my case. Fear I guess. Me and T talk about it. I was suppose to go early this am but here it is almost 2:00 pm and still I haven't left. Oh and I was suppose to do this on Sunday with H. And this is Tuesday still no grocery store. Hmmmmm, an issue do you think. I think I need drugs....that is what I think....but then I would be too messed up to go...a true dilemna. methinks....rk
I need a personal shopper. Or a online grocery store. for everything though.
Posted by Racer on December 11, 2007, at 13:01:43
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on pape » B2chica, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 12:25:23
> She isn't what you all seem to have no compassionate I've told her this and she just says why are you afraid. My answer if I knew I wouldn't be afraid. Phillipa
First of all, I did read her email to you, and didn't see anything at all wrong with it. She was straight-forward, and offered a very good solution to you. I didn't find it lacking in compassion. She can't prescribe medications for you, nor can she magically fix anything -- all she can do is suggest that you follow your doctors instructions, and that you call the doctor if you're having problems. If you're not getting what you want from her, maybe thinking about what it is you do want and discussing that with her will move you forward in therapy.
As for asking why you're afraid, that's standard -- it's the first question to ask in that situation. What are you afraid of? If you don't know the answer, which is very common, the next step is to think about what you're experiencing, describe that experience of fear, and work on discovering the roots of that fear. Your T isn't being dense, she's trying to start you on a path to discovering what your fear is based on.
Your T doesn't sound at all out of the ordinary to me. She sounds both compassionate and competent.
Posted by star008 on December 11, 2007, at 15:17:35
In reply to Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 11:48:21
Phillipa,
My sister used to wait upstairs when we were kids and scared the sh..t out of me... She would hide and jump out for fun.. I was already scared to go up there.. There were strange noises all the time and you know, being a kid it was hard to handle the fear. did anything ever happen that might make u feel this way?? I know, you don't remember or you would know why you are afraid. Do u beleive in ghosts?? Is that part of it? Some of us sense things .. I know, sounds nuts but I beleive it is true.
Do you feel self concious and stupid when u write in front of people?? I don't feel that way about writing checks but I feel that way about alot of other things.. Like being me;(
Posted by star008 on December 11, 2007, at 15:26:14
In reply to Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 11:48:21
phillipa.
I read the T's note and I would ahve been disappointed by it too.. Direct and to the point and doesn't offer a word of compassion,.,. I would have read it and said, yeah, f to you too.. blah blah blah.. so helpful wasn't she??..Follow your DR's instructions.. Well. thanks I never thought of that.. What is wrong with some people? I am sorry that you didn't get a better reply than that
Posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 19:13:14
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper » Phillipa, posted by star008 on December 11, 2007, at 15:26:14
Star especially since she was already aware that I would be e-mailing her when surgery was set-up and she knows the pdoc I'm seeing says do whatever you want. So I guess I'm my own therapist and pdoc. Probably do a better job. The ob-gyn doc just called and a conference call him my husband and me on all the proceedures he is very compassionate and thoughtful. We'd given him a Christmas tie and he remembered and thanked us. He didn't forget. I correspond with an old babbler who stopped his therapist as he thinks they are cold and only want your money. His words not mine. I see her one time before the holidays. And probably will be the last time. Still liked the young girl I clicked with. Phillipa
Posted by star008 on December 11, 2007, at 21:20:48
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper » star008, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 19:13:14
It is so hard to find someone who you click with and who is good too.. I hate when people treat me like your T did., She screwed up the theraputic relationship if you ask me..If its not bad enough that we have to depend on these people.. nothing like making u feel like u don't matter.. she should know better.
Posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 22:38:05
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper » Phillipa, posted by star008 on December 11, 2007, at 21:20:48
Star I know she reminds me of a frozen bear. Don't think I want to see her again. Phillipa
Posted by Racer on December 12, 2007, at 1:21:38
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper » star008, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 22:38:05
It sounds as though you've talked yourself into firing her.
What will you do then? Didn't you say there wasn't anyone else in your area for you to see? In that case, you'll be where you started from.
I'll suggest again that you consider carefully what you're looking for in a therapist, and discuss with this one whether it's reasonable. The email you received sounds a lot like the sort of advice I get from my T -- and my T is very compassionate, empathic, and intuitive. I didn't read any coldness in it.
Is it possible you're reading something into it that isn't there? Or not seeing what is there?
Therapy can only be helpful if you're ready and willing to make an effort towards change. Until that time, there's nothing anyone can do to help. It's up to you.
Posted by kezia on December 12, 2007, at 9:50:15
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper » star008, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2007, at 19:13:14
Maybe you need to look at this from both your pdoc's and therapist's perspectives. You say that your pdoc says do whatever you want. I have read many of your posts, and, frankly, to me it seems like you go in to see your pdoc with a med in mind (after googling and reading Pbabble), and you insist on the med, regardless of whether they think it would be a good fit or not. Then, you fill the script and don't take the med (or you take it for a few days and decide the side effects are not acceptable). I can see why a pdoc would get to the point of saying do what you want. You seem to have little faith in any pdoc you have seen (how many has it been in the past couple of years - 5?). Same with the specialists (weren't you seeing a top notch endo at one point?). They are all "quacks". I think until you address your fear of meds or perhaps your fear of getting well, you will probably have a hard time finding a pdoc or a therapist that you will find suitable. Neither are there to do everything you want. Sometimes they need to challenge you. Sometimes they need to push you to overcome fears and insecurities and controlling behaviours. If you just want someone to talk to who will agree with everything you say, then save your money and join some kind of a support or social group because any pdoc or therapist worth seeing is not going to bow down to a patient's every whim.
Just mho.
> Star especially since she was already aware that I would be e-mailing her when surgery was set-up and she knows the pdoc I'm seeing says do whatever you want. So I guess I'm my own therapist and pdoc. Probably do a better job. The ob-gyn doc just called and a conference call him my husband and me on all the proceedures he is very compassionate and thoughtful. We'd given him a Christmas tie and he remembered and thanked us. He didn't forget. I correspond with an old babbler who stopped his therapist as he thinks they are cold and only want your money. His words not mine. I see her one time before the holidays. And probably will be the last time. Still liked the young girl I clicked with. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2007, at 17:53:40
In reply to Re: Won't go upstairs in my house or write on paper » Phillipa, posted by kezia on December 12, 2007, at 9:50:15
Oh I will make my decision at this next meeting. As far the pdoc is concerned she keeps saying well your a psych nurse. She likes the combo of luvox and valium. Asked many times to try Ensam she steered me away from it as said it's too stimulating for me and that anxiety is my problem not depression. Hence looking for new pdoc only been her and l other in last two years. Would gladly stay with her but she's an 8 hour drive away and the cost of gas is so high. Phillipa ps still like the young girl and she has friends at this pdoc who cancelled all his patients till March. So have to wait and surgery will have me down and I'm still seeing the endo. thyroid stable now. And good ob-gyn best I ever had.
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