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Posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
are upsetting.
Some babblers go away.
So many change names.
And I have such a hard time following whats up w/who and getting it mixed up
I started to write it down, but then it felt not right to do that, so I tore it up.
And people seem to know whos who by 'style', but I am not so smart.
So babblers are special people, but I get awful confused.
So excuse me if I get something wrong, or don't know something I should, or say something dumb etc.
Yeah, so all take care.
Muffled
Posted by TherapyGirl on August 16, 2007, at 6:57:43
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
You're not the only one who's confused, Muffly.
Welcome back, though! I love seeing you here.
I'm off to the beach for a couple of days and am not sure how much access I will due to privacy issues. But I'll keep in touch as I can.
I'll be thinking about you and all other Babblers while I'm gone.
I hope we can all feel safe again soon.
Posted by ClearSkies on August 16, 2007, at 7:33:28
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
(((Muffled))) I find it quite disorienting, too, and hard to keep track of. But it's all quite understandable, given the circumstances. Once someone's privacy has been compromised, the breach of trust demands that we protect ourselves with whatever means necessary. Changing our posting name is simple, and sometimes a short term measure that can help us feel safe.
I see this morning that some administrative action has been taken, so there's some time for the dust to settle on this one. And I do think there's a serious discussion that needs to happen amongst ourselves about how we feel when we perceive our friendship has been betrayed. It's perhaps my biggest trigger - of all of them - and it's deeply rooted in my history. I haven't even been able to talk to my therapist about it yet.
For me the most upsetting aspect of this has been that this upheaval has been an internal problem; and "funny", not ha ha at all but ha ha how uneasy I feel thinking about it now, is remembering how frantically somebody was trying to keep track of who had changed names to what. Shudder. Now THAT really creeps me out.
Muffled, this is a journey like any other we take. I am so glad to have such a strong group of friends with whom to share the experience. I know that we all will emerge stronger because of it.
take good care,
ClearSkies - always and forever
Posted by sunnydays on August 16, 2007, at 10:07:21
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
((((muffled)))
I'm not changing my posting name! So you can remember me! :) I hope you stick around. I was actually wondering how you were the other day because I felt like I hadn't seen you posting here in ages. How is the situation with your T going? Did you decide not to return? How do you feel?
sunnydays
Posted by MidnightBlue on August 16, 2007, at 21:19:49
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
Muffy,
I get confused, too. You are not alone.
MB
Posted by RealMe on August 16, 2007, at 22:10:44
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
I'm sorry muffled; I am still here (OzLand). I sure can't tell from writing styles myself. You are not stupid. I changed my name, and now I may change it back. I have not decided yet, but I just might do so in a couple of weeks or so. I think lots of people are feeling like it is hard to trust right now. I know I was feeling this way. I decided I can't allow myself to be intimidated though. So... don't worry. It will all sort out in time.
Posted by arora on August 17, 2007, at 19:51:03
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
I know what you mean, Muffled.
I can't tell by style, either. I think we write differently if we are stressed, unhappy, whatever. So it's really difficult to tell.I'm still here- glad you are, too! I'm sorry i've been away for awhile- technical difficulties.
arora
Posted by Dinah on August 18, 2007, at 8:42:24
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
Yeah, Muffled.
Over time I feel like I've gotten to know Babblers. I hear about their journeys and struggles, we build up a shared history, I develop caring in one way or another for them.
And then poof. All that's gone.
There are posters who I'd like to know how their story is going, but I know it would be rude to ask if they are someone who has changed their name.
As posters who have changed their name post, it will take me some time to develop a sense of their history and journey.
I even am finding it difficult to post to those who haven't changed their names. My feeling of community is not at its most robust right now.
What is a community online? I've grown to care about people and their stories. I value our shared journey, our shared history. I hope that others do as well.
I realize that people need to do what they need to do to feel safe. But I'm not feeling so safe right now.
I think I want a puppy.
Posted by TherapyGirl on August 18, 2007, at 10:07:22
In reply to Re: upheavals on babble » muffled, posted by Dinah on August 18, 2007, at 8:42:24
Hi, Dinah. As usual, you articulate our shared journey in ways that I am unable to. Thank you so much.
And I love the idea of a puppy. In fact, I think we should adopt a cyber puppy for Babblers.
Posted by MidnightBlue on August 18, 2007, at 13:19:53
In reply to Re: upheavals on babble » muffled, posted by Dinah on August 18, 2007, at 8:42:24
Dinah you wrote:
There are posters who I'd like to know how their story is going, but I know it would be rude to ask if they are someone who has changed their name.As posters who have changed their name post, it will take me some time to develop a sense of their history and journey.
I even am finding it difficult to post to those who haven't changed their names. My feeling of community is not at its most robust right now.
My comment:
I agree completely. I respect everyone's right to change their name and their need for privacy. But please understand I am not in a place right now where I can easily reach out to those I don't feel I "know."
And if I ignore or treat cooly an old friend, please forgive me. I'm doing the best I can.
MB
Posted by arora on August 18, 2007, at 15:46:01
In reply to Re: Puppies are good -- Dinah, posted by TherapyGirl on August 18, 2007, at 10:07:22
> Hi, Dinah. As usual, you articulate our shared journey in ways that I am unable to. Thank you so much.
>
> And I love the idea of a puppy. In fact, I think we should adopt a cyber puppy for Babblers.I like the idea of a puppy, too. Can we get one that will grow up to be a big, strong dog, that will protect all us Babblers?? Or shall it just stay a puppy that we can cuddle when we need to?
arora
Posted by muffled on August 20, 2007, at 1:26:38
In reply to upheavals on babble, posted by muffled on August 16, 2007, at 1:05:58
Its nice to be understood.
Its nice to not feel alone.
Its nice people care.
(((Puppies)))
(((Babblers)))
Muffled
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