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Posted by Poet on May 13, 2006, at 11:56:09
In reply to Re: Anyone else scared about the APA meeting? » Poet, posted by pseudoname on May 11, 2006, at 12:51:46
Hi Pseudoname,
I just checked out your map. I like it, maybe we can have Bob's head on the walls? Just follow the Bob heads to the conference room.
Poet
Posted by Poet on May 13, 2006, at 11:57:30
In reply to Re: Canada Customs » Poet, posted by Larry Hoover on May 11, 2006, at 15:31:21
Hi Larry,
I didn't know that cusoms was pre-cleared for the return trip. That'll make it much easier.
Thanks for the info. and see you, gulp, next week.
Poet
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 13, 2006, at 15:40:52
In reply to Re: Canada Customs » Larry Hoover, posted by Poet on May 13, 2006, at 11:57:30
> Hi Larry,
>
> I didn't know that cusoms was pre-cleared for the return trip. That'll make it much easier.It is highly efficient, getting it out of the way. There are so many US destinations reached directly from Toronto, it saves a lot of hassle. You check in, get your boarding pass, and go straight on to US customs. Then you get into the departure lounge. I presume there is some sort of legal agreement, that you enter the US while still in Canada, or something. The departure lounge is US soil under some treaty or other? <shrug>
> Thanks for the info. and see you, gulp, next week.
>
> PoetI look forward to it.
Lar
Posted by fallsfall on May 14, 2006, at 9:38:15
In reply to Re: Canada Customs ? Poet, posted by Larry Hoover on May 13, 2006, at 15:40:52
Alright, Here is a (probably stupid) question:
I need to bring my driver's license and birth certificate. That I can do.
But my birth certificate has my maiden name on it. Do I need to bring my marriage certificate too, so they can see that Falls Maiden really is the same person as Falls Fall?
Posted by 10derHeart on May 14, 2006, at 12:00:58
In reply to Re: Canada Customs, posted by fallsfall on May 14, 2006, at 9:38:15
I would. Not speaking from customs experience per se, just from general, personal life experience and as a paralegal of 17+ years - on both sides of the *counter* (so to speak). Whether showing a birth certificate or examining one as part of a process to positively ID myself or someone else, I've always had to have the marriage license, too - in order to connect the birth name to the current name as the same person.
Another extra step women (ones that have ever married/changed their names, anyway) have to deal with. <<resigned sigh>>
Better safe than sorry, right? (It's such a pain, though, isn't it?!!)
Posted by gardenergirl on May 14, 2006, at 17:00:20
In reply to Re: Canada Customs » fallsfall, posted by 10derHeart on May 14, 2006, at 12:00:58
I was asked for my marriage certificate when I left Japan after being there for a two-week vacation. It was so odd, because my passport and DL had the same name, my married name on them. I just looked at him blankly and said, "What are you going to do, not let me leave?" "Do you think he's smuggling me out?" "Do you have some strange laws about non-married men and women travelling together?"
Odd.
But this is good info, since I'll be crossing the US/Canadian border for at least a few hours in a couple of weeks.
gg
Posted by ClearSkies on May 18, 2006, at 21:17:29
In reply to Re: thanks! and education..., posted by Dr. Bob on August 7, 2005, at 18:12:33
And that we'll have reports back of your experiences. Enjoy Queen Victoria's birthday and I hope you get to watch some fireworks! (Spectacular along Lakeshore.)
Posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2006, at 0:51:57
In reply to I hope everyone has a wonderful time :-), posted by ClearSkies on May 18, 2006, at 21:17:29
Posted by Deneb on May 19, 2006, at 5:15:03
In reply to I hope everyone has a wonderful time :-), posted by ClearSkies on May 18, 2006, at 21:17:29
Thanks ClearSkies! Thanks GG!
I'm going to take the bus in less than an hour! I'll write all about it. I might even take notes along the way. LOL
:-)
Deneb*
Posted by pseudoname on May 19, 2006, at 8:47:25
In reply to Me too. And safe travel! :) (nm), posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2006, at 0:51:57
Posted by B2chica on May 19, 2006, at 9:06:28
In reply to Re: I hope everyone has a wonderful time :-), posted by Deneb on May 19, 2006, at 5:15:03
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 19, 2006, at 11:25:33
In reply to have a Great time....let us know when you're back! (nm), posted by B2chica on May 19, 2006, at 9:06:28
I'll miss y'all while I'm gone, but it'll be a "wish you were here" missing thing.
Off to Babblefest, in Toronto......
Hugs to all.
Lar
Posted by 10derHeart on May 19, 2006, at 23:56:48
In reply to Re: have a Great time....let us know when you're back!, posted by Larry Hoover on May 19, 2006, at 11:25:33
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
In reply to posted workshop info, posted by pseudoname on May 9, 2006, at 16:59:16
> I'm hoping we civilians can go to some of the other presentations. There's a forum on the latest Harry Potter book with SIX psychiatrists on the panel!
Did anyone go to anything else? I want to thank everyone who contributed. You all were really articulate and did a great job of conveying your experiences. And that was a nice discussion between you and the psychiatrists, too. Good work!
Bob
Posted by fallsfall on May 23, 2006, at 7:09:43
In reply to Re: workshop, posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
I went to a talk about apologies. The main thing I picked up is that it is important to make sure that it is clear exactly what is being apologized for. "I'm sorry if I did something wrong" doesn't cut it. Apologizing for squirting whipped cream in someone's face doesn't help if they are crying because they hit their head.
I also went to a 3 hour talk on Borderline Personality Disorder. Very interesting. The big name was John Gunderson. He changed his talk at the last minute so his slides were out of order, but when he was answering questions he was really on top of everything.
Mary Zanarini (from McLean Hospital) was the chair and showed 10 year followup data on borderlines. 80% had remitted. Very impressive. She postulates that other studies don't show as much improvement because they don't follow the patients for long enough. With Borderlines, it seems that there are a set of initial symptoms (i.e. self injury) that are dealt with first. These symptoms DO respond to treatment, but not as quickly as the psychiatric world would like (hence the typical bad prognosis). But there are also a set of longer term symptoms (i.e. emptiness) that persist for a long time and ARE responsive to therapy, but certainly not in the short term. Her talk was very hopeful for BPD patients.
There was discussion of studies comparing DBT with other treatments. In general I think that people think that DBT is a good treatment, but that it may not be the only one. They also seem to be trying to determine which parts of DBT are effective.
This group (self-selected for interest in BPD) acknowleged that BPD patients can be challenging, but seemed interested in finding ways to help. It was a facinating symposium.
Thanks, Dr. Bob, for giving us this opportunity to speak and learn. This meant a lot to me.
Falls.
Posted by pseudoname on May 23, 2006, at 12:14:48
In reply to Re: workshop, posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
> Did anyone go to anything else?
Mel and I did go to the Harry Potter forum, which was quite disappointing. There was no raucus panel discussion, just a series of quote-heavy book reviews, as Mel aptly described them, monotonally read from the podium.
Reading Falls' report, I wish I'd gone to other seminars, too. Next time?
I'm putting together a post for the meds board on marketing & other impressions from the exhibit hall.
And I agree with Falls: Thank you so much for arranging all this, Dr Bob. I feel so refreshed by it.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 23, 2006, at 12:25:17
In reply to Re: workshop » Dr. Bob, posted by pseudoname on May 23, 2006, at 12:14:48
> I'm putting together a post for the meds board on marketing & other impressions from the exhibit hall.
The loot! The shwag! The goodies! I got a laser pointer mouse and a USB memory stick from some drug that I don't even recall. For answering six multiple choice questions on some computer screen, that simply kept going until you selected the right answer. For completing the test, I got the shwag.
A caricature, from a talented artist, at another.
Only a frisbee from yet another.
Oh, and a good quality laptop bag just for registering.
I just ran out of steam, or who knows what I could have snagged. There was a BlueJays baseball game that afternoon, and if I didn't get out of the lot, I'd be parked in. So, I left. I should have parked somewhere else.
I think it is great to have Babblefest coincide with the APA convention, except for one thing. Finding accomodations. Still, I think it's worth every penny I spent. Twice over.
Anybody know if my name tag is still valid? I might go back, if it is.
Lar
Posted by pseudoname on May 23, 2006, at 14:05:33
In reply to Re: workshop » pseudoname, posted by Larry Hoover on May 23, 2006, at 12:25:17
> Anybody know if my name tag is still valid? I might go back, if it is.
My *impression*, from the fact that I used mine for everything 2 days before it was valid, is that all that happens when the exhibitor scans it is that your name & email address get entered into the exhibitor's database. So if you went back for seconds, they might know that. Even at the free internet connection, it just keeps track of who was in line to use the service.
I can't imagine Pfizer would turn a doctor/revenue source away from their $200,000 (I'm guessing) booth because his little tag "expired" yesterday. The guards at the door were only looking at color, not days. (And you could always paste a little "WED" over the "MON" at home just to be sure…)
And of course, no one was scanning at the lectures. Good luck!
–pseudoname
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 24, 2006, at 7:46:37
In reply to nametag validity » Larry Hoover, posted by pseudoname on May 23, 2006, at 14:05:33
> > Anybody know if my name tag is still valid? I might go back, if it is.
>
> My *impression*, from the fact that I used mine for everything 2 days before it was valid, is that all that happens when the exhibitor scans it is that your name & email address get entered into the exhibitor's database. So if you went back for seconds, they might know that. Even at the free internet connection, it just keeps track of who was in line to use the service.
>
> I can't imagine Pfizer would turn a doctor/revenue source away from their $200,000 (I'm guessing) booth because his little tag "expired" yesterday. The guards at the door were only looking at color, not days. (And you could always paste a little "WED" over the "MON" at home just to be sure…)
>
> And of course, no one was scanning at the lectures. Good luck!
>
> –pseudonameThanks for the excellent info, but it was wishful thinking. I don't like running my energy budget into the red ink. I just need to get some rest.
I've got a lot of stuff on the go this week. I have to go back to Toronto the next two days, anyway. And one of them is taking my 14-year old son Alex to his first rock concert. The Cult. Guitar hooks, galore. I lent him my Ricky bass. Bought him an amp. Spend the weekend with him, talking guy stuff. Playing guitar together. Ya.
Lar
Posted by AuntieMel on May 24, 2006, at 14:32:44
In reply to Re: workshop, posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
I went to the Harry Potter thing with pseudoname and to the BPD thing with falls.
I could have stayed for days and days.
Posted by Poet on May 24, 2006, at 20:31:21
In reply to Re: workshop, posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
I went to the Apology workshop and Borderline Personality workshop with Fallsfall. Apology one was of more interest to me, but I did gain some insight from both of them.
Poet
Posted by Deneb on May 24, 2006, at 20:52:48
In reply to Re: workshop, posted by Dr. Bob on May 23, 2006, at 0:31:06
After the APA workshop, I went to this other workshop about burnout among psychiatrists. It was pretty boring. A lot of people left in the middle of the lecture. It was mostly about priorities, and values. I learned that status is a big thing among psychiatrists, as is money. I thought they would touch on the high suicide rate among psychiatrists, but they didn't. I thought they would talk more the extent of the problem of burnout among psychiatrists, but they didn't.
I wish I'd gone to the symposium on borderline personality disorder. Maybe that would have given me some insight.
I was *extremely* tired from three days of a few hours of sleep, maybe it was a good thing to go back to my hostel and sleep instead of attend more APA stuff.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on May 25, 2006, at 13:43:00
In reply to Re: workshop, posted by Deneb on May 24, 2006, at 20:52:48
I asked Dr. Bob if I ruined his presentation and he didn't respond. What does that mean? Is Dr. Bob angry?
Deneb*
Posted by pseudoname on May 25, 2006, at 14:01:56
In reply to Dr. Bob didn't respond, posted by Deneb on May 25, 2006, at 13:43:00
> I asked Dr. Bob if I ruined his presentation and he didn't respond. What does that mean? Is Dr. Bob angry?
I've sent him 2 things and he hasn't replied to them, either. I assume he's very busy at the convention and he's out of his normal environment & routine. And maybe he won't ever reply to me: I've gotten his replies about 20% of the time, I think!
Plus, didn't you say in your essay that Bob has a strategy of often not-responding to certain things? Maybe he is allowing you space to work through these uncomfortable feelings on your own. Maybe he thinks you might learn more helpful skills right now if he doesn't jump in. I don't know for sure. I think you said that, in retrospect, you think it was sometimes better that he didn't always reply to you, even though it was sometimes painful.
I think I've had the sort of feelings you're having now. It can really be rough. But I admire your honesty about them. I think that's better than my old strategy, which was to just put a lid on and suffer. I'm glad you can share them at Babble.
Posted by orchid on May 25, 2006, at 14:02:35
In reply to Dr. Bob didn't respond, posted by Deneb on May 25, 2006, at 13:43:00
> I asked Dr. Bob if I ruined his presentation and he didn't respond. What does that mean? Is Dr. Bob angry?
>
> Deneb*That means Dr. Bob has gone back to his own self of being only an inactive participant in babble and doesn't reveal his opinion or bring his personal opinions into the table here :-) nothing to be offended personally, I just think as the moderator of this board, he has chosen to remain that way.
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