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Posted by spoc on April 1, 2004, at 19:51:42
In reply to Re: Another good song (on topic) » spoc, posted by Fallen4myT on April 1, 2004, at 19:04:08
> I like that song Spoc I have never heard it to my knowledge which is rare as I am a music freak....It has a deep meaning in many ways. Thank you :)
This should take you right to the option of playing a sample of it -- just to get the tune in your head because you must have heard it. Stands the test of time! Unfortunately with this song it starts out with him just whistling but you should still recognize it if you've heard it. (When you click to play it, if you get an option to upgrade your media player or whatever, you can probably say no and it'll still work. I did.)
Posted by spoc on April 1, 2004, at 20:07:16
In reply to Re: Another good song/thanks » lonelygirl, posted by Fallen4myT on April 1, 2004, at 17:34:47
> who does that song..."but I'm a loser" they do it all mellow and haunting I love it and have it..Staid? Creed? Nickleback??? >
Three Doors Down, or am I thinking of a different one. I better not read any more of the older posts on this thread or I'll never get off of it!
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 1, 2004, at 22:09:43
In reply to Re: Another good song/thanks » Fallen4myT, posted by spoc on April 1, 2004, at 20:07:16
yessssss thats it 3 doors down...i looked it up now to find the cd or cassette..sometimes I buy one or both case my car takes cassetts...I am looking at the Away from the Sun cd but thats not the one loser is on..its on with Kryptonite....SPOC..YOU ROCK...I have been hearing this song in my head and wanna hear it by them lol....A cool T song is one thats a GHOST track on Didos newest one..heck you wait over or near 10 minutes to hear..it its called the closer you get......
lyrics
So leave your taxi waiting
And turn and close my door
And sit back down where you were sitting
A little closer then beforeWhen you look that serious
It just makes me want you more
And I've been meaning to tell youThe closer you get, the better I feel
The closer you are, the more I see
Why everyone says THAT I look happier
When you're around
The closer you get, the better I feelAnd yes I know you're nervous
Never seen you so unsure
You haven't touched your food tonight
And you're drinking more and moreAnd there's no need to hurry
Take you're time I'll still be here
And I've been meaning to tell youThe closer you get, the better I feel
The closer you are, the more I see
Why everyone says THAT I look happier
When you're aroundWe've been circling for time baby
We're coming down to land tonight
The wait is over and now it's easy
Everything is fineThe closer you get, the better I feel
The closer you are, the more I see
Why everyone says THAT I look happier
When you're aroundThe better I feel, the closer you get
The better you see, the closer you are
The better I see, why everyone says
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 1, 2004, at 22:15:35
In reply to Re: Another good song (on topic) » Fallen4myT, posted by spoc on April 1, 2004, at 19:51:42
You know, I HAVE HEARD this song but I don't think I ever REALLY listened to the words. It does rock...wow I am rediscovering Joel..I liked him back when he did like Virgina and Big shot and all....then I stopped listening to him...maybe piano man did that to me...Way nice song and I saw that other one someone posted on their T..but no sample...next trip to get music..add Joel I see.....thanks :)
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 1, 2004, at 22:18:57
In reply to Re: Knew u got it, 2nd way was just funnier! (nm) » Fallen4myT, posted by spoc on April 1, 2004, at 19:29:03
Posted by spoc on April 2, 2004, at 1:03:21
In reply to Re: Another good song (on topic) » spoc, posted by Fallen4myT on April 1, 2004, at 22:15:35
> You know, I HAVE HEARD this song but I don't think I ever REALLY listened to the words. It does rock...wow I am rediscovering Joel..I liked him back when he did like Virgina and Big shot and all....then I stopped listening to him...maybe piano man did that to me...Way nice song and I saw that other one someone posted on their T..but no sample...next trip to get music..add Joel I see.....thanks :)
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With 'Stranger' it's really just the words that blow me away, not the tune...I guess because it's not that frequent but wow, have I "seen the stranger" in MYSELF in relationships at times! I'm all over the place with the older stuff, much of it not THAT old but some even older. From Johnny Mathis, Etta James and Natalie Cole; to Enya, K.D. Lang and Harry Connick Jr.; to Bob Marley, the Jayhawks, Cracker and The The; to Beck, the Smiths and Collective Soul; to Alice in Chains, Live, Soundgarden, even Nine Inch Nails ('Head Like a Hole' EP)... Oh and I *love* 80s rock too, techno and regular; and lots of "urban" dance and soul music of course... Don't get me started!!!Hey, have you heard of a band called Poi Dog Pondering? Depends where you are, either "Hell yes" or "huh??" Anyway get the 2 CD set called 'Liquid White Lightning' -- just *do* it!!! It's all kinds of music rolled into one, very soulful yet energizing. Also here's one you might have a hard time finding but from what you've said I know you'd adore it too --'Fireflies' by Ruby Grass (no, not country). Then come back here and thank me -- you will, I promise!
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 2, 2004, at 17:15:26
In reply to Re: Another good song (on topic) » Fallen4myT, posted by spoc on April 2, 2004, at 1:03:21
Spoc :) I cut and pasted the names of the groups I NEVER heard of in my whole life..your last paragraph...HAVE, YOU heard of the group Madison Avenue??? I love a song they have I had to ORDER it cause its considered an import..but a somng named IT'S ALLRIGHT...very erotic.....cool vocals and instrumental is cool. A MUST GET...I LOVE ALL music from classical to rap and in between..many of your songs and groups are mine...Soundarden...etc....and I like some country and Billy Holiday..the blues....I am a music FREAK..I have over 400 CD's and many other forms of music...cassettes, lps you name it/....Right now, as I type I have Nirvana in the CD player.....kicks A ..I WILL buy those CD when we got our income tax return we file tomorrrow and I hope HR BLOCK gives us the loan..WORDS TO ITS ALRIGHT BELOW....FOR MY T....MMMMMM .,...SOOOOO T EROTIC
(( everything, gonna be alright))
Ooh, wellBRIDGE:
It's alright, if you want me
And It's alright, if you wanna touch me
It's alright, if you wanna lay me down
Well, It's alright, if you wanna do meCHORUS:
It's alright, It's alright, It's alright
well,It's alright, It's alright, It's alright...
yeah yeah yeah yeah hey....ooh
Verse 1:
Do you have a specialty?
Something a little cruel you'd like to do to me
I don't even know your name
And I'll probably never see you againSAX BREAK
BRIDGE
CHORUS
SAX BREAK
Verse 2:
Tell me anything you like, oh
Cause tonight
Is the night
Leave your morals on the shelf
Would you like to watch me do myself?CHORUS
...sss, oh....
BREAK
BRIDGE
CHORUS
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 3, 2004, at 8:54:46
In reply to Re: Another good song (on topic) » spoc, posted by Fallen4myT on April 2, 2004, at 17:15:26
> HAVE, YOU heard of the group Madison Avenue??? I love a song they have I had to ORDER it cause its considered an import..
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like posts regarding off-topic songs to be redirected to Psycho-Social-Babble. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20040331/msgs/332036.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 3, 2004, at 11:23:58
In reply to Redirect: Another good song (off topic), posted by Dr. Bob on April 3, 2004, at 8:54:46
But Dr Bob it IS A SONG I use when I think of my T that was the point..its not off topic but I hoooked it to the off topic post..very erotic T song :) I may be loopy but I was on topic and its VERY much a pyschology post..on my T obession/love lust...:D
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 3, 2004, at 11:32:39
In reply to Redirect: Another good song (off topic), posted by Dr. Bob on April 3, 2004, at 8:54:46
I am going to repost it so you can reread it...YOU CAN ALWAYS RETAKE IT DOWN BUT ITS ON ISSUE...not to vex you honestly, but if you note I say here are the words to the song ...and make a comment on how ifs *for my T MMMMMM EROTIC* or whatever..it really is on topic...that is I said for my T so T erotic then posted the song..tis the song I had to order as an import...cause it sizzles...lol hope ya don't wanna smack me by now but..its one of my MANY T songs
>>quoteing myself>>
> Spoc :) I cut and pasted the names of the groups I NEVER heard of in my whole life..your last paragraph...HAVE, YOU heard of the group Madison Avenue??? I love a song they have I had to ORDER it cause its considered an import..but a somng named IT'S ALLRIGHT...very erotic.....cool vocals and instrumental is cool. A MUST GET...I LOVE ALL music from classical to rap and in between..many of your songs and groups are mine...Soundarden...etc....and I like some country and Billy Holiday..the blues....I am a music FREAK..I have over 400 CD's and many other forms of music...cassettes, lps you name it/....Right now, as I type I have Nirvana in the CD player.....kicks A ..I WILL buy those CD when we got our income tax return we file tomorrrow and I hope HR BLOCK gives us the loan..WORDS TO ITS ALRIGHT BELOW....FOR MY T....MMMMMM .,...SOOOOO T EROTIC
>
> (( everything, gonna be alright))
> Ooh, well
>
> BRIDGE:
> It's alright, if you want me
> And It's alright, if you wanna touch me
> It's alright, if you wanna lay me down
> Well, It's alright, if you wanna do me
>
> CHORUS:
> It's alright, It's alright, It's alright
> well,It's alright, It's alright, It's alright...
> yeah yeah yeah yeah hey
>
> ....ooh
>
> Verse 1:
> Do you have a specialty?
> Something a little cruel you'd like to do to me
> I don't even know your name
> And I'll probably never see you again
>
> SAX BREAK
>
> BRIDGE
>
> CHORUS
>
> SAX BREAK
>
> Verse 2:
> Tell me anything you like, oh
> Cause tonight
> Is the night
> Leave your morals on the shelf
> Would you like to watch me do myself?
>
> CHORUS
>
> ...sss, oh....
>
> BREAK
>
> BRIDGE
>
> CHORUS
>
Posted by spoc on April 3, 2004, at 12:13:27
In reply to Redirect: Another good song (off topic), posted by Dr. Bob on April 3, 2004, at 8:54:46
> Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like posts regarding off-topic songs to be redirected to Psycho-Social-Babble. Here's a link:
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20040331/msgs/332036.html
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
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> I am going to repost it so you can reread it...YOU CAN ALWAYS RETAKE IT DOWN BUT ITS ON ISSUE...not to vex you honestly, but if you note I say here are the words to the song ...and make a comment on how ifs *for my T MMMMMM EROTIC* or whatever..it really is on topic...that is I said for my T so T erotic then posted the song..tis the song I had to order as an import...cause it sizzles...lol hope ya don't wanna smack me by now but..its one of my MANY T songs
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<<<<<<<I believe that the song is on-topic to Fallen, as well as others she mentions, even if she doesn't always state the tie-in in each post. My logic on that is (and a big part of my job is putting 2 + 2 together) that while I haven't read all her posts by any means, I have never heard her gushing about men in general, love in general, or eroticism in general. It has all been about her T, and I am sure that's who she truly is thinking of whenever she refers to any kind of longing.I am probably the one who needs to watch whether I am on-topic in this thread. I was getting into a general musical discussion theme, so I will watch that. I haven't read all of the posts on this thread either, but from what I have seen I do think Fallen always meant to be on-topic, although I may have sidetracked her for a couple of sentences here and there! : )
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 3, 2004, at 18:46:49
In reply to YOU ROCK...SPOC » spoc, posted by Fallen4myT on April 1, 2004, at 22:09:43
This song and Favorite by her ..where she sings he is like her favorite pair of underwear..<BG>..ARE TWO OF MY FAVORITE SONGS TO THINK ON T....MY T...OTHERS MAY LIKE HER SONGS ..THEY BE
T-A-LICIOUS HAHAHAHAHA....I have edited it to be ummm civil and not freak anyone out :) Somedays I will listen to these songs for hours and just have mega fantasies on MY T ..if he only knew lol
H.W.C. BY LIZ PHAIRGive it to me, don't give it away
Don't think about what the others say
My skins getting clear, my hairs so bright
All you do is **** me every day and nightYou're my secret beauty routine
Na, na, na, na, what my body has seen
I am lookin' good and I'm feeling nice
Baby you're the best magazine adviceGimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***I'm gonna pull you back down between the sheets
Everything is fresher when the day is sweet
In the morning light when you're already on the phoneFace it, one of these days
Without you I'm just another Dorian Gray
It's the fountain of youth
It's the meaning of life
So hot, so sweet, so wet my appetiteGimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***Face it, one of these days
Without you I'm just another Dorian Gray
It's the fountain of youth
It's the meaning of life
Baby you're the best magazine adviceGimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Gimme your hot white ***
Your hot white ***
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 4, 2004, at 19:32:16
In reply to Re: Redirect: Another good song (off topic) » Dr. Bob, posted by Fallen4myT on April 3, 2004, at 11:23:58
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 4, 2004, at 19:47:47
In reply to Unredirect: OK, sorry (nm) » Fallen4myT, posted by Dr. Bob on April 4, 2004, at 19:32:16
Posted by Fallen4myT on April 4, 2004, at 21:19:36
In reply to Re: Another good song » Fallen4myT, posted by spoc on April 1, 2004, at 7:40:21
I like MOST of it for my T feelings but not all some is ummm.....well I will let YOU draw your own conclusions :)
Obsession
by AnimotionAlbum : Obession-Best Of Animotion
Submitted by : Larcen Tyler
Corrected by :
Rated : 9.6 (26 votes)
You are an obsession
I cannot sleep
I am a possession
Unopened at your feet
There is no balance
No equality
Be still
I will not accept defeatI will have you
Yes I will have you
I will find a way and I will have you
Like a butterfly
A wild butterfly
I will collect you and capture youYou are an obsession
You're my obsession
Who do you want me to be
To make you sleep with me
You are an obsession
You're my obsession
Who do you want me to be
To make you sleep with meI feed you I drink you
My day and my night
I need you I need you
By sun or candlelight
You protest you want to leave
Stay there's no alternativeYour face appears again
I see the beauty there
But I see danger
Stranger beware
A circumstance in your naked dream
Your affection is not what it seemsYou are an obsession
You're my obsession
Who do you want me to be
To make you sleep with me
You are an obsession
You're my obsession
Who do you want me to be
To make you sleep with meMy fantasy has turned to madness
All my goodness has turned to badness
My need to posess you has consumed my soul
My life is trembling I have no controlI will have you
Yes I will have you
I will find a way and I will have you
Like a butterfly
A wild butterfly
I will collect you and capture youYou are an obsession
You're my obsession
Who do you want me to be
To make you sleep with me
You are an obsession
You're my obsession
Who do you want me to be
To make you sleep with me
(repeat and fade)
Posted by underthecs on April 24, 2004, at 21:56:55
In reply to Re: Another good song » Fallen4myT, posted by spoc on April 1, 2004, at 7:40:21
Yeah, I know this is REALLY late, but I just wanted to add this song by Hoobastank. What does Hoobastank mean, I wonder? Anyway, this comes from a person who has been kinda mean to their T:
The Reason
I'm not a perfect person
As many things I wish I didn't do
But I continue learning
I never meant to do those things to you
And so I have to say before I go
That I just want you to knowI've found a reason for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
and the reason is youI'm sorry that I hurt you
It's something I must live with everyday
And all the pain I put you through
I wish that I could take it all away
And be the one who catches all your tears
Thats why i need you to hearI've found a resaon for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
and the reason is You [x4]I'm not a perfect person
I never meant to do those things to you
And so I have to say before I go
That I just want you to knowI've found a reason for me
To change who I used to be
A reason to start over new
and the reason is youI've found a reason to show
A side of me you didn't know
A reason for all that I do
And the reason is you
Posted by fallsfall on April 25, 2004, at 10:13:56
In reply to Re: Another good song, posted by underthecs on April 24, 2004, at 21:56:55
Nice song!
I think that they are saying that he has hurt someone, and she is leaving. But that he really didn't want to hurt her, and has decided that she is important enough for him to reconsider things that he always thought were true about himself. She's not coming back, but he now realizes that he never wants to do that to anyone again. So he has decided to change something in his personality - in the way he *is*, the way he has always seen himself, something that he always believed to be true. He will change because she has shown him that the way that he was, led to pain (for both of them), and he doesn't want to cause that pain again. So she has taught him a valuable lesson, and he is growing as a result.
I think the song talks about how we do have the power and ability to change who we are if we decide that we don't like who we have become. That we can choose to be different, and not repeat the things we have done in the past. It is also a sad reminder that often we don't realize that we need to change ourselves until we have hurt someone who is important to us. But even if they were hurt badly enough to leave, we still can, and should, change ourselves for *our* future and the future of others we will know.
Analyzing songs is not something that I do very often, and this is the first time that seeing lyrics was enough to motivate me to find a way to hear the song. I like the message a lot.
Thanks for introducing me to this song!
Posted by underthecs on April 25, 2004, at 16:04:30
In reply to Re: Another good song » underthecs, posted by fallsfall on April 25, 2004, at 10:13:56
Thanks for your post! It made me smile to see someone (especially you) had responded.
Rereading my post, I think I made it sound like the person writing it was writing about being mean to their therapist... what I meant was that I am often that way to mine, so this song really spoke to me.
Your interpretation is right in line with mine. Thanks for posting that!
Posted by underthecs on April 26, 2004, at 0:10:04
In reply to Re: Another good song » fallsfall, posted by underthecs on April 25, 2004, at 16:04:30
Posted by lonelygirl on April 26, 2004, at 1:12:10
In reply to did i say something wrong? (nm), posted by underthecs on April 26, 2004, at 0:10:04
No... why would you think you said something wrong?
I'm sorry about the chat room. We didn't mean to ignore you. We just got sidetracked on something. I hope you will come back again, and jump right in the conversation (don't be shy!).
Posted by Fallen4MyT on April 26, 2004, at 15:31:49
In reply to did i say something wrong? (nm), posted by underthecs on April 26, 2004, at 0:10:04
Posted by lonelygirl on May 20, 2004, at 18:26:45
I know several people already posted their songs about therapy/their T's on this thread:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20040321/msgs/328055.html
...But I thought I'd reopen the subject. Another song that makes me think of my (now "former") psychologist is "There You'll Be" by Faith Hill (from the Pearl Harbor soundtrack) - lyrics below. Of course, lately, pretty much every song has made me think of him! Most of them are love/breakup songs, but you know, I love him, so they fit! I might make myself a whole mix CD of these songs. I think this one is particularly fitting, though.
Anybody want to add to the list?
There You'll Be
by Faith Hill
(Click below to listen/watch the video -- click the link that says "There You'll Be" under "VIDEO")
http://search.launch.yahoo.com/search/lsearch/video?p=there+you%27ll+be+faith+hillWhen I think back on these times,
And the dreams we left behind,
I'll be glad 'cause I was blessed to get
To have you in my lifeWhen I look back on these days,
I look and see your face,
You were right there for meChorus:
In my dreams I'll always see you soar above the sky
In my heart there'll always be a place for you,
For all my life
I'll keep a part of you with me,
And everywhere I am there you'll be,
and everywhere I am there you'll beWell you showed me how it feels,
To feel the sky within my reach,
And I always will remember all
The strength you gave to me
Your love made me make it through,
Ohh I owe so much to you,
You were right there for me(Chorus)
'Cause I always saw you in my light, my strength,
And I want to thank you now for all the ways
You were right there for me, you were right there for me,
Always(Chorus)
Posted by NVDeb on July 10, 2004, at 6:26:15
In reply to Do you and your t. say l love you ever?, posted by KindGirl on March 11, 2004, at 18:06:26
Hi. New poster here. I am toying the idea of telling my therapist I love her and was looking on the web for "therapist 'i love you'" which is how I ended up here.
I don't have any romantic feelings for my therapist (if she was a he I'd offer to have his children by now, which is why I chose a female therapist).
I've been going to therapy since April. I had all my feelings repressed. I've gone to other therapists before - the last one would pick her nails and yawn during therapy. I thank G-D I've found this one. This one is just brilliant. She slowly gained my trust and walked at my own pace. Instead of me just doing what she wanted, she allowed me to do things I wanted also. For example, instead of talking I would bring in writings (3-8 pages) and she would read it. When I brought it to other therapists they would put it aside and tell me to just talk about it. This one read it during therapy then read it on her own time also and took notes.
So, she finally got me to READ ALOUD something I wrote this last session and it's like the floodgates are open. I can't wait to go back. I feel like I have so much to say now.
One of the things I want to say is that I love her. Something like "I wanted to say I love you. Not in a romantic way, not in a sexual way, it's pure unadulterated love from one human being to another." I've NEVER told anyone, not even my parents, that I love them (without them telling me first, like a "I love you" "I love you too" and it's usually mumbled and it's only been about 10 times in my life). This is the first I would be initiating the exchange, and I can't think of a better person to do it with (I love my parents too and hope to work out to the point that I tell THEM that I love them but I'm not at that point yet).
So, what are your thoughts? It's something I feel that I should do. Could it backfire? I also was planning on flat-out asking her if she thinks hugs initiated by clients towards therapists are inappropriate and if she no, plan on hugging her after every session. We've hugged 3-4 times before but she always initiated it and it was ackward because I suck at hugging :pSoooo..... what are your thoughts?
Posted by DissociativeJane on July 10, 2004, at 8:27:16
In reply to Re: Do you and your t. say l love you ever?, posted by NVDeb on July 10, 2004, at 6:26:15
In April I had a major surgery. I saw my therapist the day before my surgery. As I was walking out the door from my session and I looked at her and said, "If I die and you don't see me again, please know I have grown to love you". She looked at me and said, "Thank you, that really makes me feel good".
I think it's very ok to share your feelings with your therapist if you are able.
Jane> Hi. New poster here. I am toying the idea of telling my therapist I love her and was looking on the web for "therapist 'i love you'" which is how I ended up here.
>
> I don't have any romantic feelings for my therapist (if she was a he I'd offer to have his children by now, which is why I chose a female therapist).
>
> I've been going to therapy since April. I had all my feelings repressed. I've gone to other therapists before - the last one would pick her nails and yawn during therapy. I thank G-D I've found this one. This one is just brilliant. She slowly gained my trust and walked at my own pace. Instead of me just doing what she wanted, she allowed me to do things I wanted also. For example, instead of talking I would bring in writings (3-8 pages) and she would read it. When I brought it to other therapists they would put it aside and tell me to just talk about it. This one read it during therapy then read it on her own time also and took notes.
>
> So, she finally got me to READ ALOUD something I wrote this last session and it's like the floodgates are open. I can't wait to go back. I feel like I have so much to say now.
>
> One of the things I want to say is that I love her. Something like "I wanted to say I love you. Not in a romantic way, not in a sexual way, it's pure unadulterated love from one human being to another." I've NEVER told anyone, not even my parents, that I love them (without them telling me first, like a "I love you" "I love you too" and it's usually mumbled and it's only been about 10 times in my life). This is the first I would be initiating the exchange, and I can't think of a better person to do it with (I love my parents too and hope to work out to the point that I tell THEM that I love them but I'm not at that point yet).
>
>
> So, what are your thoughts? It's something I feel that I should do. Could it backfire? I also was planning on flat-out asking her if she thinks hugs initiated by clients towards therapists are inappropriate and if she no, plan on hugging her after every session. We've hugged 3-4 times before but she always initiated it and it was ackward because I suck at hugging :p
>
> Soooo..... what are your thoughts?
Posted by lucy stone on July 10, 2004, at 9:08:08
In reply to Re: Do you and your t. say l love you ever?, posted by NVDeb on July 10, 2004, at 6:26:15
I have told my therapist that I love him several times. I do love him, but not in the way I love any other person. I tell him that I love him in the way patients love their therapists and I know that he understands what I mean. My T, OTOH, has never said "I love you" in return. He refers to his feelings for me as "warm feelings" and also never uses the love word to describe what I feel for him. Again it's "warm feelings". Before you tell your T that you love her, you might ask yourself what you expect her to say in return. If you want her to say she loves you back you might be dissapointed if she uses another word. Or, she might say that she also loves you. What would that mean to you? In an ideal therapy world you could discuss your expectations with her, but I think that is hard to do. I have hugged my T a few times but I always initiate it. I few times I have felt that he was glad that I did so, that he wanted to hug me but that his boundaries prevented the initiation. I think it is different in cases like mine when the patient and T are of different sexes. I think boundaries are stricter against T initiated physical contact, some Ts allow no contact at all. I think that since your T initiated hugs with you she is comfortable hugging patients and would welcome hugs you initiate. That's just a guess, though. Good luck on whatever you do, and enojoy the "warm feelings" you have for her.
Lucy
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