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Posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 1:44:38
Manned space flight is a boondoggle! It so less cost efficient than unmanned it is riddiculous. They still struggle will fecees floating around with the astronauts.
If they would be more cost effective with their funds maybe there would be addition important research done on mental illness. Forgive me but it something that has irritated me for a long time. People seem to have a Buck Rogers or Star Wars fettish. Mental illness just is'nt glamourass. If we could put more effort into understanding these problems, the return would be enormous. Just my thoughts.
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2003, at 3:30:19
In reply to Shuttle disaster could be plus for us, posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 1:44:38
Such a tragic day for seven people and their families, not to mention more than one country.
Just my own sad thoughts.
Posted by Phil on February 2, 2003, at 8:29:15
In reply to Shuttle disaster could be plus for us, posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 1:44:38
I think some things are bigger than our disease.
Sometimes our grief can be lessened by praying for others, like the families of these brave, caring people.
Many children were about thirty minutes from seeing mom or dad. Instead, they watched them be incinerated.
I would sign up today for a lifetime of depression so that anyone of those people wouldn't have to die as their children watched.
The ultimate cure for depression is love and we must realize the sacrifice these people have made to further science.
So many discoveries have come from space exploration. Who knows, a cure for depression could come from the scientific studies they do on returning astronauts.
America and Israel have suffered a tremendous loss. If we depressed people want to feel better, we must be willing to comfort others who are hurting so deeply that we can't even imagine their pain.
When people who are suffering learn to comfort others that are in terrible grief, we find one way out of the darkness.
I've said things like you have said today but I've had to realize that the universe does not revolve around me or my illness.No disrespect intended. What you said is hurt coming out as anger and sometimes that's the best we can do. But do read about these people and you will see the tremendous loss we have all suffered.
Phil
Posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 11:09:18
In reply to Re: That's a heartless statement, posted by Phil on February 2, 2003, at 8:29:15
Because of the short shrift mental health has recieved through the years, millions of sufferers have died. I know its not PC, but through wastefull programs like manned space flight not enough resources are available for research on mental disorders. Maybe our government will finally wake up and cut back on manned space programs and put attention on more valuable areas.
Posted by Dinah on February 2, 2003, at 11:34:05
In reply to Millions have died young of mental disorders, posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 11:09:18
Couldn't you just say that, then? Without the part about turning the tragedy to our advantage? A lot of people are sad right now, it's not about being PC. You'd still make your point.
Posted by mikhail99 on February 2, 2003, at 13:52:09
In reply to Millions have died young of mental disorders, posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 11:09:18
> Because of the short shrift mental health has recieved through the years, millions of sufferers have died. I know its not PC, but through wastefull programs like manned space flight not enough resources are available for research on mental disorders. Maybe our government will finally wake up and cut back on manned space programs and put attention on more valuable areas.
MM; Somehow I don't think the funding for health reseach and space programs comes from the same pot. And even if it did, it in NO way lessens the tragedy that occured yesterday. How about a little compassion for the brave souls who lost their lives and their families?
Mik
Posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 14:19:23
In reply to Re: Millions have died young of mental disorders » Marathon Man, posted by mikhail99 on February 2, 2003, at 13:52:09
They absolutely positively do come from the same pot. Many will use this tradgedy to lobby for more funds to build new shuttles. We can't let this happen. We have failed in the past to be pro-active in fighting for our rights. I know you feel the pain of all the millions of mental illness casualties. The most bizzarr aspect of my own struggle is that I have survived thus far. I can honestly say I would trade what I have had to go through for the astronauts lives. Just the facts, cold and hard.
Posted by mikhail99 on February 2, 2003, at 20:41:12
In reply to You don't think they come from same pot?, posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 14:19:23
> They absolutely positively do come from the same pot. Many will use this tradgedy to lobby for more funds to build new shuttles. We can't let this happen. We have failed in the past to be pro-active in fighting for our rights. I know you feel the pain of all the millions of mental illness casualties. The most bizzarr aspect of my own struggle is that I have survived thus far. I can honestly say I would trade what I have had to go through for the astronauts lives. Just the facts, cold and hard.
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What I mean, MM is that designating funds for a space program and designating funds for health research is discussed and planned for by completely different people. I think you oversimplify when you talk about space programs vs. mental health research. I would only agree in that politicians probably don't attach the same importance to the two things.
Posted by fuzzymind on February 3, 2003, at 3:04:42
In reply to Millions have died young of mental disorders, posted by Marathon Man on February 2, 2003, at 11:09:18
> Because of the short shrift mental health has recieved through the years, millions of sufferers have died. I know its not PC, but through wastefull programs like manned space flight not enough resources are available for research on mental disorders. Maybe our government will finally wake up and cut back on manned space programs and put attention on more valuable areas.
THe past 20 years, most attention has been focused on AIDS, because of hollywood and the fashion industry having such high profiles. Not even breast cancer and heart disease gets even the fraction of this attention. Eveyone knows the ribbons that celebrities wear to show their support for AIDS research......does anyone ever remember a significant number of hollywood types raising awareness for any other health issue? Out of touch. IMHO, mental health is severely overlooked. Unfortunately, kids of celebrities will have to start committing suicde in great numbers for anyone to give a damn.
Posted by mikhail99 on February 3, 2003, at 9:30:51
In reply to Re: Millions have died young of mental disorders, posted by fuzzymind on February 3, 2003, at 3:04:42
> > Because of the short shrift mental health has recieved through the years, millions of sufferers have died. I know its not PC, but through wastefull programs like manned space flight not enough resources are available for research on mental disorders. Maybe our government will finally wake up and cut back on manned space programs and put attention on more valuable areas.
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> THe past 20 years, most attention has been focused on AIDS, because of hollywood and the fashion industry having such high profiles. Not even breast cancer and heart disease gets even the fraction of this attention. Eveyone knows the ribbons that celebrities wear to show their support for AIDS research......does anyone ever remember a significant number of hollywood types raising awareness for any other health issue? Out of touch. IMHO, mental health is severely overlooked. Unfortunately, kids of celebrities will have to start committing suicde in great numbers for anyone to give a damn.
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That's a very interesting point Fuzz because I personally think there are a lot of people in Hollywood that are bi-polar and/or depressed. Look at the amount of drug and alcohol abuse, think there might be a little self-medicating going on there? If some of these folks could admit to problems and seek help, it would probably go a long way in making mental health issues a more socially acceptable problem. I think they're in a bit of denial which is pretty representative of the public as a whole. sigh.
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