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Posted by obsidian on June 25, 2009, at 22:36:28
so, I'm up to a little over three miles. I am pretty much running every other day to give myself recovery time.
I've decided to sign up for one of those 5K things...the one I want to do happens to be in a nice location :-).
I must put more good running music on the ipod.
I'm taking glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM for joint health, and now my concern is again focused on carb reduction. This is no small feat.
Posted by morganpmiller on June 28, 2009, at 1:55:58
In reply to running, posted by obsidian on June 25, 2009, at 22:36:28
Reduce carbs but don't eliminated them. It doesn't sound like you are planning on it. Try to focus more on whole grain carbs and natural fruit juices like acai or pomegranate. Eat plenty of blueberries. I love Wyman's frozen wild blueberries, you can get a great deal on this at CostCo. Just cut out the simple carbs. No more white bread, white rice, white pasta, sugar, fructose(unless it comes from fruits).
If your worried about carbs, pycnogenol may help with regulating insulin and slowing down the absorption of carbohydrates. It might also help your joints.
Are you taking fish oil for joints as well?
Posted by obsidian on June 28, 2009, at 19:45:26
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on June 28, 2009, at 1:55:58
I have just begun taking fish oil, but only one pill a day as opposed to the recommended two (it gave me GI issues previously)
pycnogenol huh? I'll look into it. I can feel my glucose level crash on a regular basis (no doubt the effect of my pattern of carb intake)
thanks for the response :-)
I'll be working on it.
be well,
sid
Posted by morganpmiller on June 28, 2009, at 21:06:03
In reply to Re: running » morganpmiller, posted by obsidian on June 28, 2009, at 19:45:26
You can reduce the GI issues with enteric coating fish oi capsules. Also, the quality of fish oil supplement makes a difference sometimes. You will spend more money, but it may be worth it to try a brand like Nordic Naturals or Carlson's.
If you want to save a ton of money on fish oil and maybe solve your GI issues, CostCo has Kirkland brand fish oil capsules with enteric coating. I may also consider Vitamin Shoppe brand. I think they have the enteric coating and while not as cheap as CostCo, they are still a reasonably price brand.
It also might be a good idea to keep your fish oil refrigerated.
Eating plain yogurt, if you can tolerate the taste(I love it for some reason), is the best way to resolve GI issues. A good whey protein is supposed to be good for your stomach as the high levels of glutamine are good for the stomach.
For your joints consider adding black currant oil along with the fish oil. This way you will get the benefits of both Omega 3s and good Omega 6s.
Posted by morganpmiller on June 28, 2009, at 21:07:40
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on June 28, 2009, at 1:55:58
I forgot to mention that olive oil may actually help keep off the pounds. There are a few reasons for this that I can't remember. I think it is similar to why fish oil can help with weight management as well.
Posted by obsidian on June 30, 2009, at 23:08:29
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on June 28, 2009, at 21:06:03
thanks, I'm going to look for the fish oil with enteric coating, and I hadn't thought about refrigerating it.
-sid :-)
Posted by obsidian on June 30, 2009, at 23:09:08
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on June 28, 2009, at 21:07:40
well then, I'm going to increase my intake of italian food ;-)
Posted by morganpmiller on June 30, 2009, at 23:49:07
In reply to Re: running » morganpmiller, posted by obsidian on June 30, 2009, at 23:08:29
Good luck with the new fish oil. Vitamin Shoppe enteric coating is of fairly high quality and affordable. Costco Kirkland brand fish oil with enteric coating is the best value of course. I would try taking up to 3 capsules a day and see how you feel. Goodluck!
Posted by alexandra_k on August 2, 2009, at 3:25:24
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on June 30, 2009, at 23:49:07
Flax seed oil is good substitute. Same omega's as fish oil but friendly on the fish (if you are worried about over-fishing etc) and I've typically found it to be cheaper than fish oil because people don't seem to have caught on to it as a substitute yet (except for vegan communities).
Posted by obsidian on August 6, 2009, at 23:06:25
In reply to Re: running, posted by alexandra_k on August 2, 2009, at 3:25:24
thanks alex, I had been wondering during my last trip to the pharmacy what that flax seed oil was about. :-)
Posted by obsidian on August 6, 2009, at 23:08:06
In reply to running, posted by obsidian on June 25, 2009, at 22:36:28
I stopped running for a while because of some medical procedures and I just started again and I have what I am pretty sure is a shin splint :-(
It's kind of upsetting...
:-(
Posted by morganpmiller on August 8, 2009, at 3:39:32
In reply to Re: running, posted by alexandra_k on August 2, 2009, at 3:25:24
The omega 3s in Flax oil aren't the same as in fish oil. Also, the flax seed oil in capsule form is not absorbed well. You are better off eating Salba or Chia.
Fish oil is unique in that is has the essential EPA and DHA fatty acids(different from the omega 3s in flax) that work on the brain. This does not mean that the omega 3s in flax, salba, or chia do not work on the brain. There is just more research showing how beneficial the EPA and DHA in fish oil are for brain health/mood.
There are different ratios of EPA to DHA that work different people. Some do better with a 4 to 3 EPA to DHA ratio, which is the most common(you will find this ratio in the enteric coating-the best form-dirt cheap fish oil at CostCo.
I think the only other not fish/seafood source of EPA/DHA is some kind of green algae. There was a thread on the Alternatives board with a post by Larry Hoover on this not too long ago.
Posted by morganpmiller on August 8, 2009, at 3:47:14
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on June 30, 2009, at 23:49:07
Sorry if I sound like an Omega 3 snob ; )
Posted by obsidian on August 8, 2009, at 18:53:45
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on August 8, 2009, at 3:47:14
it's quite alright to be an omega 3 snob, it is also unique :-)
I'm going to the vitamin shoppe soon...no membership to costco, and my last kind of fish oil is almost gone now
Posted by morganpmiller on August 8, 2009, at 19:58:15
In reply to Re: running » morganpmiller, posted by obsidian on August 8, 2009, at 18:53:45
> it's quite alright to be an omega 3 snob, it is also unique :-)
> I'm going to the vitamin shoppe soon...no membership to costco, and my last kind of fish oil is almost gone now
>:-)
Posted by alexandra_k on August 12, 2009, at 0:12:17
In reply to Re: running, posted by morganpmiller on August 8, 2009, at 3:39:32
> The omega 3s in Flax oil aren't the same as in fish oil. Also, the flax seed oil in capsule form is not absorbed well. You are better off eating Salba or Chia.
> Fish oil is unique in that is has the essential EPA and DHA fatty acids(different from the omega 3s in flax) that work on the brain. This does not mean that the omega 3s in flax, salba, or chia do not work on the brain. There is just more research showing how beneficial the EPA and DHA in fish oil are for brain health/mood.
> I think the only other not fish/seafood source of EPA/DHA is some kind of green algae. There was a thread on the Alternatives board with a post by Larry Hoover on this not too long ago.
Hmm, I didn't know that. Thanks :-)
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