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Posted by MidnightBlue on May 8, 2007, at 0:10:50
In reply to One good thing » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on May 7, 2007, at 19:34:53
This was NOT a good day. If it was a not great for you food I ate it! And NO water not even one sip. Ice tea (without sugar) was the best I managed.
Can we start this coming Monday? I need to get good for you food in the house. Yeah I'll let you off on the water thing if I can count unsweetened tea. :-)
MB
Posted by Dinah on May 8, 2007, at 8:51:51
In reply to Re: One good thing » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on May 8, 2007, at 0:10:50
I'm fine with that. :)
Actually, the last nutritionist I saw, when seeing my face on being told how much water I should drink, listed a variety of alternatives which did not include Diet Coke. :)
I weighed myself this morning, and I'm under two hundred. Not by a lot, but by some. Unfortunately, I think I've got almost no water retention right now, so if I go back to normal I might tip a bit over.
At least it's not the heaviest I've ever been.
I'm trying to figure out if feeling a bit unwell is helping or hurting. I don't feel the desire to eat as much, but when I do eat, it's nothing but bread and potatoes and other high calorie things that are soothing to the tummy.
Posted by Dinah on July 26, 2007, at 10:05:49
In reply to Re: One good thing » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on May 8, 2007, at 8:51:51
My size 18 clothes are feeling too tight, although size 20's are still too big. But if I'm between sizes right now, I'm sure not going to go up one and have to buy a whole new wardrobe.
No.
Plus since my attitude towards work has entirely changed for the positive, I find I'm still having trouble doing it. I have to suspect that my poor physical condition is affecting this. I'm exhausted just leaning over nowadays.
I'm not eating more. I'm probably consuming fewer calories since I've almost totally cut out sugar filled drinks, and since my tastes have changed so that things that used to taste good now taste too rich or too sweet. So I have to conclude that my weight gain is due to some metabolism shift that goes with age fortyfive.
I hate the idea of dieting. I get so crabby and it's so hard to concentrate.
But this just can't continue.
Posted by Dinah on August 21, 2007, at 12:32:48
In reply to Time to get seriously serious, posted by Dinah on July 26, 2007, at 10:05:49
This is not going well.
I know I need to exercise, but it's so darn hot.
At least I'm not eating much. The foods that are bad for me have started to treat me badly more immediately, which is both good and bad I guess.
Posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 9:53:50
In reply to Starting weight 186 Today's Weight 204, posted by Dinah on August 21, 2007, at 12:32:48
:)
I know, I know. Water weight or scale variations.
But I really really have been good.
(Helped by the fact that the food that's good for me suddenly tastes good, and the food that's not good for me makes me feel slightly ill.)
Posted by ClearSkies on August 25, 2007, at 17:02:15
In reply to Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 9:53:50
> :)
:-) That is great!
>
> I know, I know. Water weight or scale variations.
>
> But I really really have been good.
>
> (Helped by the fact that the food that's good for me suddenly tastes good, and the food that's not good for me makes me feel slightly ill.)I've noticed that since I started taking Remeron that food doesn't generally taste as good as it used to. And I have a pretty wicked sweet tooth, which my T says makes perfect sense, since the medication is keeping my energy level rather low. Sugar = instant energy. If only I could rely on some caffeine to get me going and then switch it off before it turns me into a shaky meanie. But I can't find that "off" switch!!!
I guess there's some different balance I'm striving to find and just haven't yet.
One who wants it all,
ClearSkies
Posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 20:59:24
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by ClearSkies on August 25, 2007, at 17:02:15
I ended up sleeping through my only two tries at Remeron. :)
I told my husband today that maybe my body's taste was changing because my body's needs changed.
But that leaves me wondering what my body was looking for in batter fried shrimp and snowballs.
I feel fat this evening, although I didn't eat any more today than I've been eating.
I'm sorry you can't take caffeine. I've been living on ice tea and diet coke.
The change in my tastes and lack of appetite coincided with the enormous consumption of green tea. Maybe green tea is an appetite suppressant.
Posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 22:02:35
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » ClearSkies, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 20:59:24
Dinah that's what I drink now iced green tea . And never hungry I wonder if that correct? Maybe a huge discovery? Green tea is good for you too not much caffeine. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 22:12:05
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 22:02:35
Oh, I hope it has enough to keep me awake!
But yes, it may be a coincidence, but the lack of appetite definitely came when i started with the tea. It would be nice if there was a direct correlation wouldn't it?
Posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 23:00:55
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 22:12:05
Definitely. As there are antioxidants in it too. And just maybe(is it you that takes providgil? very likely I'm mistaken if so my apologies)you wouldn't need as much of it and less money spent unless your're insurance covers it. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on October 8, 2007, at 8:29:39
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 23:00:55
Very discouraging. I'm back up again, and I really see no reason why.
I've been having trouble with heartburn and that's limited what I can eat a lot. I guess the fact that most of what feels ok to eat is breads and puddings and carbohydrates outweighs the fact that I'm really not eating much.
I'll have to check the calorie content, and see if I can find lower calorie alternatives that are easy on the esophagus.
Posted by MidnightBlue on October 8, 2007, at 9:59:41
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on October 8, 2007, at 8:29:39
Dinah, I SO understand this!
MB
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 12:19:22
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on October 8, 2007, at 8:29:39
Dinah,
Thinking about trying this again with you soon. Posting once a week. I need to slowly lose about 60 pounds. Gotta psych myself up first.
What do you think?
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 4, 2008, at 12:31:05
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 12:19:22
I was *just* talking to my husband about this. I've gone up another few pounds. :( I really do need to lose, at least fifty pounds.
Sounds good to me. Well, maybe not good, but you know what I mean.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 13:04:50
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 4, 2008, at 12:31:05
Maybe we could start Monday? still need to get my head right on this and need to get better food in the house. If you want to wait an extra week let me know. I'm still eating my way through holiday goodies! LOL
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 5, 2008, at 10:10:49
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 13:04:50
I think I might take a different approach this time.
According to Dr. Bob's very rude BMI calculator I'm severely obese, and a very restrictive diet for a few weeks won't help the problem at all. Given the magnitude of the problem, and my previous failures at losing the weight, I think I need to go into a planning stage this time.
So starting today I will carry around a notebook and start recording every single bite that I put in my mouth. After a week of doing that I should be able to identify the worst offenders and come up with a plan? And then I can start the actual change in eating.
For example, I rarely say "Oh, I really want something yummy to eat." It's more often that I don't really pay much attention to my eating and either forget to eat then get so hungry that I eat everything that doesn't move. Or I get tired and have trouble concentrating on work, and since eating helps that, I'll grab some bread or tootsie rolls. Everything is designed to help me short term. I only rarely actually binge on something I enjoy.
One area that I am stymied at figuring out a way to avoid failing is carbs. I could easily live on a plain white bread diet forever. I don't mind eating things other than bread or potatoes or pasta. But only if they come *with* bread or potatoes or pasta. I see little hope in cutting these things from my life or even in making them a minor part of my diet. Somehow I have to figure out a diet that relies on these things as a staple, or I just as well give up now.
:(
I think I'll leave out the drinks, since I now only drink sugar free. Although I rather suspect I am often dehydrated, so maybe I should pay attention to that.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 5, 2008, at 14:09:02
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 5, 2008, at 10:10:49
Dinah,
Starting Sunday I will start writing down what I eat and drink, too. I agree this needs to be a long term moderate approach that can be lived with a lifetime.
I, too, could live on white bread as long as it is french and comes with butter! And completely giving up white pasta is NOT going to happen. I've given up white rice for brown and that is sacrifice enough! LOL
MidnightBlue
Posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 18:57:41
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 5, 2008, at 14:09:02
I fear recording what I eat is affecting what I eat. :(
Not just because I don't want to write down something bad, but because it's such a pain to write down everything I eat that it's less trouble not to eat snacks.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 19:06:11
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 18:57:41
Yeah,
And I've actually been eating worse than usual today! But then I'm extra tired and hurting and food seems to comfort. Maybe I'll try tomorrow.
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 20:24:33
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 19:06:11
I was doing fine until my mother called.
I'm sorry you're hurting.
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 20:42:37
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 20:24:33
The perfect diet seriously after being on them all going off them gaining more wt was the day I stood on the ob-gyn's scale naked and weighed the same as I did every year of my life. That was the day I stopped dieting and you know what I didn't focus on food anymore and no more diets. My weight stayed the same til a year ago. Old age. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 21:24:26
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 20:42:37
I'm glad that worked for you. I had a relative who ate like a trooper all her life, and never gained an ounce.
But I'm around 200 pounds, diabetic, and on increasing diabetic medications. I have to make lifestyle changes or I'm going to end up losing my feet or my eyesight eventually. It's not a question of dieting per se. I know what happens to diabetics. I've seen my mother. She'll live forever, but she's disabled because she didn't make changes.
It's very frustrating to me that even though I know all that, and even though I don't want to put my family through that, I still can't seem to muster the self control to do what I need to do.
It's important for me to identify the problem areas, so that I can find other ways to deal with them instead of eating.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 22:51:27
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 20:42:37
I have some serious medical problems that are made worse by my weight. They were not caused by it, but they do make it much more difficult for me to lose weight. I really need to try and lose 60 pounds.
This is not a matter of looking younger or being fit. I will never be fit. I'm just trying to stay out of a wheelchair or make the transfer to and from one easier.
I know what a good and healthy diet is. But it is hard to never eat a dish of ice cream or a slice of white bread or a plate of pasta when that is one of the few enjoyable things you can do.
MidnightBlue
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 23:40:21
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Phillipa, posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 22:51:27
Dinah and MB you're both so right. Would weight watchers work? They say it's the healtiest one. You know lost taste and smell about four years ago who knows why? but I don't get hungry as why bother. I guess you two need to work at it very hard together. Can you both do any form of excercise? Dinah know you work and have a family so it's next to impossible. MB don't know your situation family wise but maybe a diet consultant? Any on the internet? Talk is cheap and that's how I feel. I'm sorry if I down played your situations as they are serious for both of you. Phillipa
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on January 7, 2008, at 6:20:05
In reply to Starting weight. 186. Target weight. 136., posted by Dinah on February 9, 2004, at 23:05:51
to get started again. drop the idea that you have failed somehow. you are going to spend today getting back on track. if you can do ONE thing, that's still better than zero things.
((((dinah)))))
((((MB)))))
you guys are in my thoughts.
-Ll
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