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Posted by flipsactown on May 2, 2004, at 21:15:06
In reply to Re: Keeps going up, darnit. 170+ now, SE of nardil? » Flipsactown, posted by gardenergirl on May 1, 2004, at 10:33:09
Hi GG,
I am doing as well as can be expected as I have just completed 3 weeks on Nardil. Aside from the insomnia I have had very little side effect which is a good thing. On top of that my unipolar depression is in check although I know I can feel better than this. Hoping that in the coming weeks I will feel even more depression free. I have been having to take generic benadryl to help with the insomnia. However, although benadryl seem to help me sleep, I seem to wake up in an hour or two and can't go back to sleep. I will be seeing a new pdoc in 2 weeks and I will ask for some Trazodone or Ambien to help me get to sleep and stay asleep for more than 2 hours at a time. Take care.
FST
> Nardil is working well for me. My weight has stabilized a bit. At least it is not increasing. Pretty much all of the side effects have gone away at this point, too, which is nice. I have been on it now for about six months.
> How are you doing?
>
> gg
Posted by Dinah on May 17, 2004, at 10:35:39
In reply to Re: Starting weight. 186. Today's weight 190 1/2., posted by Dinah on April 25, 2004, at 13:08:05
I hate my fat. I hate it! I hate what looks back at me if I actually look at the mirror. There's nothing left of who I once was.
I thought I was being pretty good, aside from a few dining out indiscretions. Guess I was wrong.
Posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2004, at 8:31:56
In reply to Re: Starting weight. 186. Today's weight 192 1/2., posted by Dinah on May 17, 2004, at 10:35:39
Dinah,
I'm still struggling, too. I had thought the gaining was stabilizing, but nope. I'm going to have to break down and change my shopping habits. I'm going to try to keep fruit and cottage cheese and stuff instead of muffins and cookies.But it will be SO HARD! I eat when I am stressed. A lot.
I don't know if you drink socially, but I saw a little blurb on TV recently that alcohol can be hidden calories, because we don't usually count them. I know a glass of wine is about 120 calories. I usually have one or two. Good thing I'm not bingeing on alcohol, huh? For oh so many reasons.
Dinah, sweetie, we are okay the way we are. It's the inside that counts, not the outward appearance. I still say I'll trade extra weight for fighting depression with Nardil anyday. But if you want to do something for yourself, and for no one else, then I have faith that you can do it.
And I highly recommend yoga for feeling good about your body. If you've never tried it and would like to, Yoga Zone has an Intro. to Yoga tape that is wonderful! Very go at your own pace. But feels so good and seems effective at least in strength and flexibility.
Okay, enough advice from someone who is also struggling. Mostly just wanted to say, I hear you, and you are a lovely, lovely person.
Take care,
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on May 20, 2004, at 12:47:26
In reply to ((((Dinah)))), posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2004, at 8:31:56
Posted by Dinah on May 21, 2004, at 11:57:44
In reply to ((((Dinah)))), posted by gardenergirl on May 19, 2004, at 8:31:56
Why would I ignore it? It's all good advice. I don't actually drink, but I've already started the keeping things out of the house that I shouldn't eat.
It's quite a challenge to stock the house with things that my husband and son like, but that I don't. Because I don't think it's quite fair to them to take aalllll the good stuff away. Fortunately I'm way pickier than they are.
Posted by Dinah on March 30, 2005, at 22:32:01
In reply to Starting weight. 186. Target weight. 136., posted by Dinah on February 9, 2004, at 23:05:51
Current weight 194.
I'm not doing something right. :(
Doesn't feel like I'm eating near as much as I used to.
Maybe increasing the Depakote from 125 mg to 500 mg?
Been taking blood sugars. Mostly ok. Tonight's went up from 190 to 200 then back down to 182 in the space of half an hour. Maybe my monitor isn't working properly, but it sort of echoed how I felt. I knew I shouldn't have eaten those mashed potatoes.
Posted by Minnie-Haha on March 31, 2005, at 15:14:16
In reply to Starting weight. 186. Target weight. 136., posted by Dinah on March 30, 2005, at 22:32:01
> Current weight 194.
>
> I'm not doing something right. :(
>
> Doesn't feel like I'm eating near as much as I used to.
>
> Maybe increasing the Depakote from 125 mg to 500 mg? ...
I just joined in reading about your weight loss odyssey. I'm with ya sister. I can't find anywhere in here what meds you're taking (if any) aside from Depakote, and what you're doing to lose weight. Eating less? Exercising? Doing some special diet? Taking some special supplement?I've been going to Curves for about 4 months. Lost a little weight the first month, but then put on 5 pounds after starting on Cymbalta. I've lowered my dose and am now augmenting with Wellbutrin XL and feel like my appetite is better (lower).
I gained weight on Depakote. I don't know if increasing it would help. It seems counter-intuitive, but I know these drugs can have different effects at different dosages, though I'm pretty sure Depakote has a reputation as a weight-gaining drug. Have you talked to your doc/pdoc? Are you bipolar? Personally, I've found Trileptal to be more weight neutral than Depakote.
Good luck!
Posted by Dinah on March 31, 2005, at 16:50:51
In reply to Re: Starting weight. 186. Target weight. 136. » Dinah, posted by Minnie-Haha on March 31, 2005, at 15:14:16
I was on a smidge of Depakote for mood stabilization, but it's been upped from 125 to 500 mg (in stages) for migraines, not mood.
I'm not on a diet, per se. But I really can't eat any amount of carbohydrates any more because of my blood sugars. Anything more than a bit, and I fall asleep.
So, my typical breakfast is peanut butter, simply fruit jam, on low carb bread. Then a beans & rice lean cuisine for lunch with salsa added. And a smallish dinner. I've mostly given up sugar-filled drinks. In between meals, I might have some more peanut butter. Maybe a piece of wheat bread. Nothing really outlandish.
Yet my weight stays the same or creeps up. :( It's discouraging. I know I could get a jump start if I drank a lot of water, but that's just water weight. No long term benefits.
We're thinking of getting an exercise bike. I *might* exercise if I can sit and read while I do it. :)
Curves.... for some reason it sounds familiar. Is it a national chain? Is it diet or exercise?
Posted by Minnie-Haha on March 31, 2005, at 19:26:21
In reply to Re: Starting weight. 186. Target weight. 136. » Minnie-Haha, posted by Dinah on March 31, 2005, at 16:50:51
> Curves.... for some reason it sounds familiar. Is it a national chain? Is it diet or exercise?
It's exercise (though they also sell a diet supplement, which I do not use). They're all over the place, very convenient, and only takes 30 minutes. I am NOT an exerciser (for exercise's sake anyway), but I like going to Curves. All the other women are just regular women like me.
Posted by Dinah on May 23, 2005, at 11:25:36
In reply to Starting weight. 186. Today's weight. 187. Sigh. (nm), posted by Dinah on March 3, 2004, at 14:17:20
Posted by MidnightBlue on May 24, 2005, at 13:52:55
In reply to Starting weight 186. Today's 197. Target 150. (nm), posted by Dinah on May 23, 2005, at 11:25:36
Oh Dinah!
You are SO BRAVE! I don't have the courage to post my real weight. Let's just say I gained 100 pounds in the last two years because of stress and depression. I medicated myself with food. I have lost 20 pounds in the last 6 weeks or so and have at least 80 more to go. I will try to post each Monday, too, so we can encourage each other.
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
Posted by Dinah on May 24, 2005, at 18:22:49
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186. Today's 197. Target 150. » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on May 24, 2005, at 13:52:55
Gee. I kind of hated checking the Add Name of Previous Poster next to that appalling subject line. :) So I changed it.
I think it's great that you've lost so much weight!! I'm not terribly optimistic. You can see what happened in my last effort. But it's this or cholesterol drugs.
Posted by MidnightBlue on May 24, 2005, at 20:47:38
In reply to Encouragement » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on May 24, 2005, at 18:22:49
Thanks Dinah!
I few years ago I lost 80 pounds, but when my husband lost his job and we went through so much stress, I put it all back on and then some. I MUST lose weight, too. I know my cholesterol is terrible. Right now I'm just working on my blood pressure. Yes I did start taking my med and it is down a little.
I also need to go on a psych med, but we just found out today our insurance is changing again July 1.
Take care, we can BOTH do it. Do you know a good calorie counting software program that is reasonable?
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
> I think it's great that you've lost so much weight!! I'm not terribly optimistic. You can see what happened in my last effort. But it's this or cholesterol drugs.
Posted by MidnightBlue on May 30, 2005, at 10:42:24
In reply to Starting weight 186. Today's 197. Target 150. (nm), posted by Dinah on May 23, 2005, at 11:25:36
Posted by Dinah on May 30, 2005, at 11:13:26
In reply to Starting weight 186. Today's 197. Target 150. (nm), posted by Dinah on May 23, 2005, at 11:25:36
Danged if I know. I'm not aware of eating badly.
I do feel swollen like a water balloon, even though there's no hormonal reason for me to be.
Posted by MidnightBlue on May 30, 2005, at 14:44:03
In reply to Starting weight 186. Today's 199. Target 150., posted by Dinah on May 30, 2005, at 11:13:26
Hang in there! Probably is salt, water, and bloat!
Posted by Dinah on May 31, 2005, at 8:08:43
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186. Today's 199. Target 150. » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on May 30, 2005, at 14:44:03
I'm thinking so, too. I could barely squeeze my wedding ring on, and my feet have sock imprints.
Not the hormonally correct time, so I'd better watch my salt intake.
My kidney stones (I think) are acting up. I wonder if I'm doing something in reaction to that that's causing it.
Congratulations on your two pound loss! That's wonderful.
Posted by Dinah on June 6, 2005, at 8:08:03
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186. Today's 199. Target 150. » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on May 31, 2005, at 8:08:43
I just don't get it.
I may have eaten more this weekend. But I also walked tons.
Posted by MidnightBlue on June 6, 2005, at 10:06:12
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186. Today's 200. Target 150., posted by Dinah on June 6, 2005, at 8:08:03
Hey Dinah,
You aren't alone this week. I'm up 1/2 a pound, too. I tried, I really did. But I was a bit hungrier this week. Maybe I ate more than I thought. I did eat more fruit, but I thought that was a good thing. I need to start counting calories with a computer program. Know a good one?
Hugs,
MidnightBlue
> I just don't get it.
>
> I may have eaten more this weekend. But I also walked tons.
Posted by Dinah on June 10, 2005, at 19:49:54
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186. Today's 200. Target 150., posted by Dinah on June 6, 2005, at 8:08:03
I think I got discouraged.
Posted by Deneb on June 10, 2005, at 21:02:43
In reply to I deserve whatever I get this week. :(, posted by Dinah on June 10, 2005, at 19:49:54
Hi Dinah!
I haven't been following this thread, but it seems like you want to lose some weight? It is very difficult to lose weight so don't get discouraged. :-) I need to get into a healthier lifestyle myself. How about we don't concentrate on weight so much but instead on leading healthy lives? I know that scales can be rather misleading. On of my goals is to jog/speed walk at least 30mins everyday. I haven't been doing such a good job. Once my ankle is 100% again I will try my routine. I'm going to have to start slow though...it's been a while since I've really had to jog...I throw-up way too easily from over-exertion. I've always been like that, which is why I hate exercise so much.
I think it'll be cool to encourage each other here, how 'bout it?
jenny
Posted by Dinah on June 11, 2005, at 11:35:27
In reply to Re: I deserve whatever I get this week. :( » Dinah, posted by Deneb on June 10, 2005, at 21:02:43
Sure, I'd love it if you joined in. Encouragement is very helpful.
Unfortunately I have to concentrate a bit on weight. If I don't lose ten to fifteen pounds and get my cholesterol under control, I'm going to have to start taking a new pill that isn't very good for my liver.
I think it's great you're trying to get in regular exercise. I live in the South and it's too darn hot to exercise outdoors right now. We bought an exercise bike, but it's still in the box. I think putting it together will be more exercise than my husband and I can stand. :)
Posted by MidnightBlue on June 23, 2005, at 11:30:05
In reply to I deserve whatever I get this week. :(, posted by Dinah on June 10, 2005, at 19:49:54
Better late than never, huh Dinah? Maxime lured me out of my posting silence with her good news. And I guess I just really need/want to post that I lost 4 pounds last week after hitting an even spot for a few weeks. That means a total loss of 29 pounds. Still not confident enough to put the weight numbers up. ;-)
MidnightBlue
Posted by Dinah on June 23, 2005, at 18:26:44
In reply to Should have been posted Monday, BUT » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on June 23, 2005, at 11:30:05
Congratulations!! I meant to email you, but I've had sick dogs all week and I've been distracted. That's wonderful.
I weighed in at 196, but I think it's just a water fluid thing. I don't think I lost any real weight.
Posted by MidnightBlue on June 27, 2005, at 16:08:13
In reply to Re: Should have been posted Monday, BUT » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on June 23, 2005, at 18:26:44
And that is okay with me. Dinah take care of yourself!
MB
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