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Posted by snapper on April 13, 2006, at 2:59:40
I am going throught TPM and my Depression is making me very dougbtful and I know that can be a hinderance...however I would like to talk to you. If possible one on one. I need some hope so to speak. The lady I am doing the TPM with is good and trained in TPM but I am still very doubtful. I have seen her aboout 8 to ten times and I just do not feel or see {any} positive change. I know it is not her, it is supposed to be Jesus and God and I am dis-couraged.
Can we please talk?
Thanks
Snapper
Posted by Dena on June 3, 2006, at 22:16:38
In reply to Dena How can we talk? RE: TPM, posted by snapper on April 13, 2006, at 2:59:40
> I am going throught TPM and my Depression is making me very dougbtful and I know that can be a hinderance...however I would like to talk to you. If possible one on one. I need some hope so to speak. The lady I am doing the TPM with is good and trained in TPM but I am still very doubtful. I have seen her aboout 8 to ten times and I just do not feel or see {any} positive change. I know it is not her, it is supposed to be Jesus and God and I am dis-couraged.
> Can we please talk?
> Thanks
> SnapperHowdy Snapper --
It's been FOREVER since I was on PBF -- just wondering if you're still receiving TPM, and how it's going...? Are you still in need of talking about your experience with it?
I'm here... email me, and we'll schmooze...!
Shalom, Dena
Posted by snapper on June 5, 2006, at 4:15:37
In reply to Re: Dena How can we talk? RE: TPM » snapper, posted by Dena on June 3, 2006, at 22:16:38
> > I am going throught TPM and my Depression is making me very dougbtful and I know that can be a hinderance...however I would like to talk to you. If possible one on one. I need some hope so to speak. The lady I am doing the TPM with is good and trained in TPM but I am still very doubtful. I have seen her aboout 8 to ten times and I just do not feel or see {any} positive change. I know it is not her, it is supposed to be Jesus and God and I am dis-couraged.
> > Can we please talk?
> > Thanks
> > Snapper
>
> Howdy Snapper --
>
> It's been FOREVER since I was on PBF -- just wondering if you're still receiving TPM, and how it's going...? Are you still in need of talking about your experience with it?
>
> I'm here... email me, and we'll schmooze...!
>
> Shalom, Dena
>
>Hi Dena, thanks for the check in. I have pulled back for right now. Not that I am going to dis-continue. It is very much up to me and my facillitator is very supporting sweet and very kind. She is of the beleif that and so am I, that my OCD (circular thinking and lack of concentrating is getting in the way of the healing process) I still have hope ..even though I am still discouraged and depressed( imagine that) I am just taking a short break. I do beleive that my symptoms are really interferring in the healing process. That in itself is very discouraging. I am ...unfortunately a dougtbing "Thomas" and want soooo much to let go and just beleive the God and or Jesus will give me some semblence of peace from my struggles ...Let me know what you think.
Thanks for writing
Clint
Posted by Dena on June 7, 2006, at 23:57:15
In reply to Re: Dena How can we talk? RE: TPM » Dena, posted by snapper on June 5, 2006, at 4:15:37
> > > > Hi Dena, thanks for the check in. I have pulled back for right now. Not that I am going to dis-continue. It is very much up to me and my facillitator is very supporting sweet and very kind. She is of the beleif that and so am I, that my OCD (circular thinking and lack of concentrating is getting in the way of the healing process) I still have hope ..even though I am still discouraged and depressed( imagine that) I am just taking a short break. I do beleive that my symptoms are really interferring in the healing process. That in itself is very discouraging. I am ...unfortunately a dougtbing "Thomas" and want soooo much to let go and just beleive the God and or Jesus will give me some semblence of peace from my struggles ...Let me know what you think.
> Thanks for writing
> Clint
I can't help but wonder whether there'd be a way to get past whatever is at the root of the OCD... I've come to believe that most brain chemistry imbalances have some sort of trauma at the root of them. Have you tried to go there? When your OCD symptoms flare up, have you tried to use TPM to go to the source and origin of THAT feeling?Just wondering... I'm not a professional counselor, but I wasn't "supposed" to be totally healed of bulimia, and the obsessive/compulsive component to it, and yet, I was... (& still am, more than 5 years later).
Shalom, Dena
Posted by snapper on June 8, 2006, at 3:19:09
In reply to Re: Dena How can we talk? RE: TPM, posted by Dena on June 7, 2006, at 23:57:15
> > > > > Hi Dena, thanks for the check in. I have pulled back for right now. Not that I am going to dis-continue. It is very much up to me and my facillitator is very supporting sweet and very kind. She is of the beleif that and so am I, that my OCD (circular thinking and lack of concentrating is getting in the way of the healing process) I still have hope ..even though I am still discouraged and depressed( imagine that) I am just taking a short break. I do beleive that my symptoms are really interferring in the healing process. That in itself is very discouraging. I am ...unfortunately a dougtbing "Thomas" and want soooo much to let go and just beleive the God and or Jesus will give me some semblence of peace from my struggles ...Let me know what you think.
> > Thanks for writing
> > Clint
>
>
> I can't help but wonder whether there'd be a way to get past whatever is at the root of the OCD... I've come to believe that most brain chemistry imbalances have some sort of trauma at the root of them. Have you tried to go there? When your OCD symptoms flare up, have you tried to use TPM to go to the source and origin of THAT feeling?
>
> Just wondering... I'm not a professional counselor, but I wasn't "supposed" to be totally healed of bulimia, and the obsessive/compulsive component to it, and yet, I was... (& still am, more than 5 years later).
>
> Shalom, Dena
>
>Hi Dena,I have let her know of my first "round" of OCD behaviour and I have told her what "it" entailed-- I really do feel wrought with depression hiopeless against this whole thing. Sometimes I do feel like self-destructin. Keep in mind that I am on SSI, have a pretty co-dependent family, have tons of trouble with my own thinking and cognition issues from the anxiety and depression. It just feels terminal Not to mention the unbearable idea of being alone forever-- My self esteem is sooooooo bad that at times I can barely look many people in the eyes. I used to struggle with minor bouts of these issues but now feel terminally doomed. I am very sad and obviously ,daily feel hopeless and un-worthy and not lovable- From a depressiogenic standpoint, I should know these symptoms to be falsities. But none the less....God or who ever He is ..certainly has a better deal for me in store. I am a fight...like many on this board. Up and down sixteen years of this Sh*t is becoming sooooo OLD. I am merely living day by day....taking space up --- I wish at times God would take me to remove the misery. Sorry for such a load of mental stuff all at once but I appreciate your responce and wish I could honestly say that about more relationships, friends, and aqquantances. I feel as low as a snakes bottom. Many don't really even know, of my low and unworthy feelings I have and pearce(sp) my soul and heart on a day to day basis.I feel and long for love and acceptance from others and God--- I am at a point of emotional bluntess! No one is meant to survive with a big black void in thier hearts and souls!
I look forward to hearing from you again soo!
Thanks
CLint
Posted by Dena on June 8, 2006, at 12:59:23
In reply to Re: Dena How can we talk? RE: TPM » Dena, posted by snapper on June 8, 2006, at 3:19:09
Hi Clint -
Having dealt with crippling depression myself, for 25 years, I do understand the spiraling despondency that you describe... I lived it too.
But, you didn't answer my question -- have you worked with your TPM facilitator while you're feeling "blocked" by the hopelessness?
The hopelessness is based upon a lie (because with Him, there is always hope!), and TPM works by having Jesus go to the lie, and replacing it with His truth... once the lie of "I'm hopeless" is replaced with His truth about yourself, the rest of the stuff is easily dealt with (again, by having Him address the lies, and then providing His truth).
I've been free of bulimia for over 5 years, and free of depression and antidepressants for over 3 years now. I know what it's like to live with the dark cloud of hopelessness, and I now know what it's like to live a life infused with hope...
The truth really does set us free...!
Shalom, Dena
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