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Posted by cockeyed on May 13, 2005, at 0:41:48
Please understand, it's late and I'm not wrapped too tight: I once was a "good catlick" boy. And I'm Ptsd'd but more later when I can deal with the damned anger. [you're in a very real sense "damned" when anger rules you] A sample of simple stuff from a simple mind.
But Osama. Is it just me or is he a Christ-Figure. Look at his face. Is that madness or serenity. Christ did say he came to bring the sword. I suspect he said a lot more and St. Paul and the early church executives decided that the corporation was better off without too much input from the founder. I for one suspect Osama is dead,but his spirit lives on. For the muslims as a figure of reverence, for us and our government, as a bogey-man to pry more money from us, the people. Now here comes the kicker. If he was the mastermind behind 9/11 I feel the utmost enmity toward him. I cannot forgive Islam for the barbarism of jihad. If I choose to be a godless, unblieving wretch, then that is precisely why I love this country. Okay so the bible-tells-me-so folks are trying to shove all their ignorant bushwah down every one's throats. That's the spirit of America. Let 'em go for it.But I don't want some american avatar of Osama, no matter what faith, telling me how and when and where and what I must believe. But still I am struck by the evil one man can do in the name of good. Osama is regarded as a religious hero to vast numbers of people. Pope John Paul was a very great and good man and he's done things to the Catholic church which leave it mired in a world thatnever existed. I want to believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa, the Giant Halloween, Pumpkin, God the father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Oh, right, there are no ghosts. how's Spirit. But I refuse to go to church and pay to stand up or sit down or mumble or whatever the heck one does in church today. Oh, yeah, pray. I do that. I don't believe but I pray. But I keep coming back to Osama. What if he's right, that the United States is one big Las Vegas hell on earth and these maniacs who blow themselves up are martyrs.[I consider them criminals. Fools and dupes.] I hate them. But sometimes I look at TV and realize that our society revels in...seduction? Maybe the real world is best dealt with on a basis of hypocritical spirituality? I don't know. I'm an alcoholic and a manic-depressive...or perhaps a bi-polar mess on an express to oblivion. No one gets out alive. I believe when I'm dead, I'm just like the meat in a super-market only not so appetizing. But there's this sneaky hope and happy feeling that I've got some friend in Jesus or whoever, who no matter what watches over me and when I'm grovelling drunk and sick on the cellar floor sends a bit of light my way and helps me up. What about Osama? Could he be a saint, an anti-christ? I may be off the track but there's something about him that strikes me as Christ-like. That's all folks, I'm going back to pecking at some wood and calling it music. cockeyed. p.s. I Iraq. I'm a pinko liberal but one thing I support about Pres. Bush is going into Iraq and taking out Sadam. Remember hitler and the allies all hoping he would go away. This is a cruel and mean world. Religion is supposed to make it better. Too bad we humans are maybe one percent of the real juice of god, and the rest, 99 percent killer ape. We can justify anything by reason. Is reason spiritual?
Posted by 64bowtie on May 13, 2005, at 2:20:50
In reply to Osama Bin Laden, posted by cockeyed on May 13, 2005, at 0:41:48
Thanx for relating your concerns. I hope my following anecdote doesn't disgust you about me.....
Some time in 2002, I was listening to afternoon talk radio on a local San Fran station while stuck in traffic. Being interviewed on the show was a Palestinian who was stateside prospecting for believers to blow themselves up for "the cause". I was riveted to this interview and horrified by what I was hearing. He gave phone #s and Website info for interested parties to contact the movement.
What I have here to share is horrifying... Please don't scorn me, I'm only the messenger.......
He was stateside promising $25,000 to any family who would offer up their children to act as suicide bombers. He suggested that families with children dieing from diseases could relieve themselves of their burdensome child and make $25,000 in the process.
Picture also that he included Downs Syndrome children as targets for his deranged process. I took particular exception to this since I consider Downs children the happiest children I've ever known. I can imagine them being all toooo happy and proud to do what their families needed........ They are flesh-and-blood angels!!!
Needless to say, I almost wrecked the rental car I was driving!!! What a monster, and with a monstrous desire, to think we would fall for such c**p!!! He did mention that Sadam Hussein was bankrolling his project under the blessings of Yassar Arafat...
(I almost disgusted myself even relating this story!!!)
Rod
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 13, 2005, at 21:21:02
In reply to One short anecdote... please be patient » cockeyed, posted by 64bowtie on May 13, 2005, at 2:20:50
> I cannot forgive Islam for the barbarism of jihad... the bible-tells-me-so folks are trying to shove all their ignorant bushwah down every one's throats
>
> cockeyed> What a monster, and with a monstrous desire, to think we would fall for such c**p!!!
>
> RodThe idea here is support, so please don't put others down for having their beliefs.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
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Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by 64bowtie on May 14, 2005, at 0:35:22
In reply to Re: please be civil » cockeyed » 64bowtie, posted by Dr. Bob on May 13, 2005, at 21:21:02
Dr-Bob,
You demand that I support others and you refuse to support me and my feelings of disgust? Please respond from your heart, not from your library...
Rod
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 15, 2005, at 1:59:42
In reply to Re: please be civil » cockeyed » 64bowtie, posted by Dr. Bob on May 13, 2005, at 21:21:02
> Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050417/msgs/497921.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 18, 2005, at 23:46:03
In reply to Redirect: administrative issues, posted by Dr. Bob on May 15, 2005, at 1:59:42
> > Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
And those regarding political issues to Psycho-Babble Politics. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/poli/20050509/msgs/499327.html
Thanks,
Bob
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