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Posted by linkadge on December 22, 2006, at 14:43:13
folic acid 1mg
b12 50mg
b6 10mgomega-3 1g epa
500mg dhaturmeric 2 tsp (MAO-A inhibition)
Linkadge
Posted by dessbee on December 24, 2006, at 11:15:06
In reply to My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 22, 2006, at 14:43:13
Do you get problems with rashes, increased inner tension and irritation from this regimen?
Folic acid, B6 and MAO-inhibition increases histamine levels.
You may want to consider active B-vitamins:
methylfolate (metafolin), methyl-b12 and pyridoxal-5-phosphate (active B6).
These are potent vitamins that should only be taken in RDA dosages. By using active vitamins in RDA dosages you may avoid excessive increase in histamin levels.
Posted by linkadge on December 24, 2006, at 16:13:51
In reply to Re: My new combo » linkadge, posted by dessbee on December 24, 2006, at 11:15:06
No I have never had symtpoms of high histamine. No allergies. My histamine may even be low, as antihistamines often make me delusional at even low doses.
Linkadge
Posted by want2breal on December 24, 2006, at 23:33:27
In reply to My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 22, 2006, at 14:43:13
How's that working for you?
I am off of Lexapro, due to side effects (rapid heart beat), and am taking St. John's, along with some extra vitamins, and B vitamins.
Have you researched GABA at all?
Thanks!
Posted by blueberry1 on December 25, 2006, at 6:18:07
In reply to My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 22, 2006, at 14:43:13
> folic acid 1mg
> b12 50mg
> b6 10mg
>
> omega-3 1g epa
> 500mg dha
>
> turmeric 2 tsp (MAO-A inhibition)
>
> LinkadgeI hope this helps you out Linkadge. You sure deserve some relief.
It is interesting how common everyday things can have power. Like fish. Like turmeric. Or licorice. When studying up on depression, the words folate and B12 keep popping up. I hope you are on to something decent. My best wishes to you my friend.
Posted by linkadge on December 25, 2006, at 16:29:39
In reply to Re: My new combo » linkadge, posted by blueberry1 on December 25, 2006, at 6:18:07
Folic acid, b12, and b6 are critical in the synthesis of SAMe. Supposedly even slight deficiancies can lead to diminished SAMe.
You can combine the 3 with TMG to supposedly boost SAMe levels.
The 3 augmented antidepressants when I was on them.
Posted by linkadge on December 25, 2006, at 16:30:10
In reply to Re: My new combo » linkadge, posted by blueberry1 on December 25, 2006, at 6:18:07
All I'm really looking for is ok sleep and something to look forward to the next day.
Linkadge
Posted by want2breal on December 25, 2006, at 18:28:16
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 25, 2006, at 16:30:10
Have you looked at GABA at all? I've read good things about that.
I'm interested in finding out more about amino acids...
Posted by linkadge on December 25, 2006, at 20:27:26
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by want2breal on December 25, 2006, at 18:28:16
Yeah, I personally had a positive experience with GABA. Supposedly this supplement isn't supposed to cross the blood brain barrier very well, but I find it a little hard to believe, as I am not ususally susceptable to placebo effect.
Linkadge
Posted by want2breal on December 25, 2006, at 21:03:25
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 25, 2006, at 20:27:26
So would I take GABA on a daily basis, or just when I feel like I need something to relax me?
Thank you!
Posted by linkadge on December 26, 2006, at 11:23:06
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by want2breal on December 25, 2006, at 21:03:25
Not sure. See how it affects you. I don't think there would be a problem with taking on a daily basis, but if anxiety is periodic you might want to take it periodically.
Have you tried theanine? It seems to be a popular anti-anxiety supplement.
Linkadge
Posted by want2breal on December 26, 2006, at 11:40:03
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 26, 2006, at 11:23:06
No, I've never read about theanine? Is it an amino acid?
Posted by linkadge on December 26, 2006, at 12:31:28
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by want2breal on December 26, 2006, at 11:40:03
I think it is. It is found in green tea.
If anxiety is the issue, there are supplements I would recomend trying before GABA. While GABA seemed to have an effect, I think some other supplements could offer more bang for your buck.
I'd try theanine (~100mg), and taurine (500mg-1g)
first.
Linkadge
Posted by want2breal on December 26, 2006, at 14:57:55
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 26, 2006, at 12:31:28
I can't tolerate caffeine, and I read where the theanine is canceled out in the decaffeination process.
Thanks so much for posting!!!
I also have depression, but I am 3 weeks coming off Lexapro, so it may still be some withdrawal, not sure. I was on Lexapro for a couple of years....
i am also taking St. Johns, and have really upped all of my B vitamins.
Thanks so much for your post.
Did it take you a while to find what worked for you?
Posted by linkadge on December 27, 2006, at 9:15:38
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by want2breal on December 26, 2006, at 14:57:55
Theanine occurs naturally in tea, but you can get it in supplement form.
Yes, it has taken a while for me to find what helps and what doesn't.
I came off celexa (sister drug to lexapro) about 3-4 years ago, and that was rough, but I don't regret the decision.
A number of people here like omega-3. Have you tried omega-3 before?Linkadge
Posted by want2breal on December 27, 2006, at 23:52:33
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 27, 2006, at 9:15:38
I am currently taking Omega 3 (1000 mg.)
So are you doing okay off of the Celexa? I don't want to have to be on another AD, I want to be able to go the natural route....
I am trying something now with the St. John's and other things I take.
I just started it yesterday...it's called Mood Stabilizer...by Nature's Sunshine. The lady at the health food store says it is the only thing she's taken that has made her feel normal. If you get a chance, google it and tell me what you think.
Thanks so much for your help!
Posted by linkadge on December 28, 2006, at 9:58:42
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by want2breal on December 27, 2006, at 23:52:33
Yeah, I am still off the AD and doing a lot better than then.
If I can find info on that product I'll take a look.
Linkadge
Posted by ClearSkies on January 10, 2007, at 8:20:33
In reply to My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 22, 2006, at 14:43:13
My chiropractor/applied kinesiologist recommended b12 and folate to stimulate my thyroid. When I googled it here I found your post. I hope that taking these 2 supplements will help me with depression.
Are you still feeling well on this combo?
thanks
ClearSkiesps Also, I'm tapering off Lamictal (and feel much better, is there a reverse placebo effect?? lol). My hypomanic phase has abruptly fallen off doing this.
Posted by Javelina on January 11, 2007, at 19:37:04
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 25, 2006, at 20:27:26
> Yeah, I personally had a positive experience with GABA. Supposedly this supplement isn't supposed to cross the blood brain barrier very well, but I find it a little hard to believe, as I am not ususally susceptable to placebo effect.
>
> LinkadgeThanks for posting your new regimen, that is really helpful for me. I'm going to start making sure I take my Omega Fatty acids every day. I just drink flax seed oil out of the bottle. I think it's super healthy for many reasons, not just neural health. What is the purpose of the DHA?
Regarding GABA, I have come across some articles about Picomilone which is a synthetic combination of GABA and nicotinic acid (a B vitamin derivative). Both of the elements are naturally occurring, but a the combination into one molecule does not occur in nature. One key advantage of attaching nicotinic acid is that much more of the molecule crosses the blood brain barrier. Another reported advantage is that it keeps one both alert and relaxed. However, since the final entity is a synthetic it could potentially have unforseen effects that neither component does alone.
I don't have any personal experience taking it, but reading about it piqued my interest.
Posted by want2breal on January 11, 2007, at 19:44:10
In reply to Re: My new combo, posted by linkadge on December 25, 2006, at 20:27:26
So do you think theanine would be better for anxiety?
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