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Posted by iforgotmypassword on November 8, 2005, at 23:20:27
you can make methamphetamine with it... ugh... sigh... and i was actually thinking of trying to see if i could even get my hands on meth or make it anyways, with my current failures with psych meds... you have to get by somehow, but i know ill never get off my *ss and do it... i guess i can take comfort in the fact that i'm not a felon.
still its frustrating... DPA w/selegiline was one thing i wanted to try first. i know i'd never have the ability to buckle down and make meth anyway, i don't know why i am agonizing myself with the fantasy... or do anything that i do when i read sh*t on the internet.
nicotene patches didnt help either...
ughh. this is awful.
Posted by iforgotmypassword on November 8, 2005, at 23:20:27
In reply to reason DLPA D-phenylalanine is elusive in canada!, posted by iforgotmypassword on November 7, 2005, at 15:54:17
anything that could get rid of that chemical and get us closer to stevia legality would be a huge benefit to human health and in dissolving corporate corruption i could guess? heh.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 8, 2005, at 23:20:27
In reply to whoa! wonderifwecouldmakeASPARTAME ILLEGALsomehow!, posted by iforgotmypassword on November 7, 2005, at 16:03:34
> anything that could get rid of that chemical and get us closer to stevia legality would be a huge benefit to human health and in dissolving corporate corruption i could guess? heh.
I may be in the States, but I would just like to say I agree wholeheartedly. It was due to this wretched chemical that I spent nearly a year practically confined to my bed with the pains of fibromyalgia. Got all the way up through the list of narcotics from tramadol to fentanyl in trying to find *some* relief from the unrelenting aches and sharp pains.............. only to eventually discover, lucky for me, that it was my intake of aspartame that caused *all* the symptoms. I would generally drink a diet soda of some sort every day (just one), and upon stopping that, the symptoms ceased.
I *love* stevia in tea, green especially, and herbal infusions. But my lust for carbonated beverages has been quenched by the recent onslaught of sucralose-sweetened products to the market. I just make sure that acesulfame potassium (acesulfame-K) isn't listed as a cosweetener, as I respond similarly to it as I do to aspartame, though to a lesser degree. Saccharin doesn't cause me noticeable problems, but it just tastes nasty unless it's in iced tea with lots of lemon. :-)
~Michael
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 8, 2005, at 23:20:27
In reply to reason DLPA D-phenylalanine is elusive in canada!, posted by iforgotmypassword on November 7, 2005, at 15:54:17
> you can make methamphetamine with it... ugh... sigh... and i was actually thinking of trying to see if i could even get my hands on meth or make it anyways, with my current failures with psych meds... you have to get by somehow, but i know ill never get off my *ss and do it... i guess i can take comfort in the fact that i'm not a felon.
D-phenylalanine is not a restricted precursor chemical. Your best bet is to order some in from the United States. That's the only market in which it is being sold, just now (except to laboratories, etc.).
Converting d-phenylalanine to methamphetamine would require some very specialized knowledge, and some controlled chemicals, but d-phenylalanine isn't controlled. Why don't you just try some DLPA?
> still its frustrating... DPA w/selegiline was one thing i wanted to try first. i know i'd never have the ability to buckle down and make meth anyway, i don't know why i am agonizing myself with the fantasy... or do anything that i do when i read sh*t on the internet.
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> nicotene patches didnt help either...
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> ughh. this is awful.DLPA is easy to get. What about the selegiline? You need a script for that.
Lar
Posted by utopizen on November 8, 2005, at 23:20:27
In reply to Re: whoa! wonderifwecouldmakeASPARTAME ILLEGALsome » iforgotmypassword, posted by Ame Sans Vie on November 7, 2005, at 22:05:35
Um, not to state the obvious, but, methamphetamine agitates depression, so, think of something more clever and safer.
Anyhow, I tried DLPA at 1500mg along with 10mg of Selegiline (I got 4-month supply from XXX).
I augmented it with my Klonopin, 1mg 3x/day, and Lexapro, 30mg/day. I had been on the Lexapro for 3 months, no avail, and tried antipsychotics, anticonvulsants, other AD's, all just for melancholia (depression with anxiety, somnolence, and anhedonia, or often referred to as "atypical depression" on this board).
Well, the combo seemed to work well. First day, call it placebo or something, professors noticed I was smiling (probably like first time in their class in months) and two that day asked me why lol-- embarassing, cause I was gleefully spacing out.
Anyway, Um, it works, and works quickly. I believe it permamently allowed my Lexapro to do its job, as I stopped taking it daily after 4 months, and let the Lexapro alone do the work.
Posted by Chairman_MAO on November 9, 2005, at 16:26:24
In reply to Re: reason DLPA D-phenylalanine is elusive in canada! » iforgotmypassword, posted by Larry Hoover on November 7, 2005, at 23:17:37
d-phenylalanine decarboxylated would give d-phenethylamine, right? Then you have to add a methyl at the alpha position, and then methylate that.
I am not a chemist, but I doubt this is any better than just using ephedrine or something like that.
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