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Posted by Spriggy on February 24, 2005, at 20:32:07
Somebody please tell me how I can effectively lower cortisol levels without having a total body/mind flip out.
Thanks.
Posted by hugo on February 24, 2005, at 22:28:50
In reply to how to lower cortisol levels??, posted by Spriggy on February 24, 2005, at 20:32:07
Try googling holy basil and gingko for lowering cortisol. Also a low glycemic diet apparently helps.
Hugo
Posted by tealady on February 25, 2005, at 2:53:30
In reply to how to lower cortisol levels??, posted by Spriggy on February 24, 2005, at 20:32:07
Posted by Spriggy on February 25, 2005, at 12:25:51
In reply to Easy- stop using that progesterone cream :-) (nm) » Spriggy, posted by tealady on February 25, 2005, at 2:53:30
ha ha.. I have already quit the progesterone cream. Don't worry.I'm a genius. ROFL
Posted by tealady on February 28, 2005, at 4:46:00
In reply to Re: Easy- stop using that progesterone cream :-), posted by Spriggy on February 25, 2005, at 12:25:51
> ha ha.. I have already quit the progesterone cream. Don't worry.
>
> I'm a genius. ROFL
LOL , YES:-))) At the risk of sounding condescending..not trying to be, you really have got the ability to listen to your body it seems ..and that is way more valuable than any studies, theories or anything else.
It's nice when the known stuff and your own body agree though.I think I posted here on progesterone cream before if you google you MAY be lucky enough to find it..
basically the progesterone builds up in your fat ..and most females really feel overloaded iwth cortisol, with all the symptoms after 12 months or so..so you were fitting the norm.
Progesterone converts mainly to cortisol, which is at least partly why it feels so good when one starts out for a while.
Takes months after stopping (which is safe to do without tapering) for your body to use all its stored up.Drinking a bit of alcohol at night might help reduce the cortisol levels too...not sure on that one, but its enjoyable anyway.
Jan
Posted by Spriggy on March 7, 2005, at 12:56:02
In reply to Re: Easy- stop using that progesterone cream :-) » Spriggy, posted by tealady on February 28, 2005, at 4:46:00
Brilliant.
TO reduce the cortisol, I'll become an alcoholic. ROFL (just kidding)
Thanks for the advice..
I think the progesterone was related to this because I took it at night, and noticed my panic attacks began waking me up in the middle of the night. I don't think that was a coincidence.
Posted by Elroy on March 19, 2005, at 12:19:09
In reply to Re: Easy- stop using that progesterone cream :-), posted by Spriggy on March 7, 2005, at 12:56:02
I believe that you'd find that the alcohol consumption would - over the long run - actually increase cortisol levels.
Actually it's pretty vital that one get their cortisol levels actually checked. The 24-hour Urinary Free Cortisol Test is the most accurate. Cortisol levels rise and lower during the day so getting a blood test or a saliva test isn't necessarily very accurate.
High cortisol levels should have follow-up tests to make sure that one is not dealing with the onset of Cushing's or Pseudo Cushing's. High cortisol levels are caused by Cushing's AND Pseudo Cushing's both. Cushing's causes severe depression whereas Pseudo Cushing's can be caused by severe depression (and anxiety). There's a form of Pseudo Cushing's that is caused by chronic alcoholism also.
Some info sites:
http://boards.cushings-interactive.com/invboard/index.php?act=idx
Whether it's Cushing's or Pseudo Cushing's or something else, highly elevated cortisol levels (above the "normal reference ranges") are nothing to be fooled with as they can create not noly anxiety and depression but a whole host of physical problems (some quite severe).
If one has Cushing's, the intervention of specialist endocrinologists and specialist surgeons will become necessary.
In other cases, well, good luck in getting cortisol levels down. None of the MD types seem to have a clue in what is helpful.
Some research that I have done has indicated that the following OTC compounds / substances might be helpful (many have had very good reviews from users):
Phosphatidylserine
Magnolia bark
Epimedium
7-KETO DHEA
Gerovital-H3
Rhodiola rosea
Ashwagandha
Holy Basil
Siberian ginseng
Theanine
Melatonin
Beta-sitosterol
Gingko Biloba
Passionflower
Tongkat aliFrom a "Dr. Bob" article:
QUOTE:
The following A and B can be used for short term or long term, to help detox adrenaline. Dr. Bob said they were especially helpful for rapid detox. He used them first when he judged rapid detox of adrenaline was proper.
A. Consider supplementing 2 grams of glutamine daily.Dr. Bob advised this could bring down cortisol levels rapidly.
B. Consider supplementing ½ gram of NAC daily.
Dr. Bob recommended sustained release. He said glutamine and NAC could bring down cortisol rapidly. Dr. Bob advised to combine the supplement TMG whenever you supplement NAC. TMG helps NAC work properly in the body.
Stress chemicals such as cortisol and adrenaline can be highly toxic. They need to be handled by the body as efficiently and rapidly as possible. The supplements mentioned can help to improve detox function, thus helping to decrease toxicity from stress chemicals in the body.
END QUOTE
> Brilliant.
>
> TO reduce the cortisol, I'll become an alcoholic. ROFL (just kidding)
>
> Thanks for the advice..
>
> I think the progesterone was related to this because I took it at night, and noticed my panic attacks began waking me up in the middle of the night. I don't think that was a coincidence.
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 29, 2005, at 7:10:38
In reply to Re: Easy- stop using that progesterone cream :-) » Spriggy, posted by Elroy on March 19, 2005, at 12:19:09
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