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Re: Easy- stop using that progesterone cream :-) » Spriggy

Posted by Elroy on March 19, 2005, at 12:19:09

In reply to Re: Easy- stop using that progesterone cream :-), posted by Spriggy on March 7, 2005, at 12:56:02

I believe that you'd find that the alcohol consumption would - over the long run - actually increase cortisol levels.

Actually it's pretty vital that one get their cortisol levels actually checked. The 24-hour Urinary Free Cortisol Test is the most accurate. Cortisol levels rise and lower during the day so getting a blood test or a saliva test isn't necessarily very accurate.

High cortisol levels should have follow-up tests to make sure that one is not dealing with the onset of Cushing's or Pseudo Cushing's. High cortisol levels are caused by Cushing's AND Pseudo Cushing's both. Cushing's causes severe depression whereas Pseudo Cushing's can be caused by severe depression (and anxiety). There's a form of Pseudo Cushing's that is caused by chronic alcoholism also.

Some info sites:

http://csrf.net/index.htm

http://boards.cushings-interactive.com/invboard/index.php?act=idx

Whether it's Cushing's or Pseudo Cushing's or something else, highly elevated cortisol levels (above the "normal reference ranges") are nothing to be fooled with as they can create not noly anxiety and depression but a whole host of physical problems (some quite severe).

If one has Cushing's, the intervention of specialist endocrinologists and specialist surgeons will become necessary.

In other cases, well, good luck in getting cortisol levels down. None of the MD types seem to have a clue in what is helpful.

Some research that I have done has indicated that the following OTC compounds / substances might be helpful (many have had very good reviews from users):

Phosphatidylserine
Magnolia bark
Epimedium
7-KETO DHEA
Gerovital-H3
Rhodiola rosea
Ashwagandha
Holy Basil
Siberian ginseng
Theanine
Melatonin
Beta-sitosterol
Gingko Biloba
Passionflower
Tongkat ali

From a "Dr. Bob" article:

QUOTE:
The following A and B can be used for short term or long term, to help detox adrenaline. Dr. Bob said they were especially helpful for rapid detox. He used them first when he judged rapid detox of adrenaline was proper.
A. Consider supplementing 2 grams of glutamine daily.

Dr. Bob advised this could bring down cortisol levels rapidly.

B. Consider supplementing ½ gram of NAC daily.

Dr. Bob recommended sustained release. He said glutamine and NAC could bring down cortisol rapidly. Dr. Bob advised to combine the supplement TMG whenever you supplement NAC. TMG helps NAC work properly in the body.

Stress chemicals such as cortisol and adrenaline can be highly toxic. They need to be handled by the body as efficiently and rapidly as possible. The supplements mentioned can help to improve detox function, thus helping to decrease toxicity from stress chemicals in the body.
END QUOTE


> Brilliant.
>
> TO reduce the cortisol, I'll become an alcoholic. ROFL (just kidding)
>
> Thanks for the advice..
>
> I think the progesterone was related to this because I took it at night, and noticed my panic attacks began waking me up in the middle of the night. I don't think that was a coincidence.


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