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Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 17:19:15
In reply to Would you please put a notice on each board? » Kath, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 17:00:29
> Would you please put a notice on each board?
There should be one there already?
> PS - I'm not even sure I understand the whole Twitter thing. I am assuming that it would be a totally separate thing from Babble. That you would not get to it from within Babble.
It's a web site, so links to it can be posted here. So people could get to it from here. Is that what you mean?
Bob
Posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:02:51
In reply to Re: the whole Twitter thing, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 17:19:15
~ ~ ~ Oh - you're absolutely right! There is - right at the top. I often just click on the notice on my email that there's a post on a thread I'm following, so I didn't see it.
:-) sorry!> It's a web site, so links to it can be posted here. So people could get to it from here. Is that what you mean?
>
> Bob~ ~ ~ I had thought that anyone, even non-members of PB could go to Twitter, and because of that, it's sort of more 'open to the general public'. I realize that anyone can join Babble. Also, though, that tons of non-babblers will be at Twitter. Maybe I'm being sort of paranoid...I post all kinds of really personal stuff, especially about my son's life - so the uncomfortable part (one reason I opted out) was that any-old-body could read a clip or thumbnail of what "Kath" wrote - & just come to Babble to be nosy & read more about me & my life. In other words, not come here for the kind of support that we Babblers get & give to each other. I guess I don't like the thought of people coming here just out of curiosity sparked by something they read on Twitter.
It's a fairly big concern for me. Even though I'm opted out!
Kath
PS - Even given the above-mentioned concern, I think I like that you have made the option to link Babble with something that's new & 'upcoming' so that people here can be involved there also. I'd prefer it wasn't linked, but that's just me personally. I have mixed feelings about it.
I would have preferred if the default was that everyone was 'opted out' & had to apply TO be a part of Twitter. I feel sorta disappointed that it wasn't set up like that.
Thanks for having the notice at the top of each Board. I appreciate the fact that you've done that & made it very easy to get to the discussion of it, and to opt out.
Thanks & thanks for your quick reply!
:-)) Kath
Oh - PartlyCloudy's post sparked a question....
An important one, which I don't understand how it could be done....
So from now on, no 'thumbnails' or whatever, of "Kath" posts will appear on Twitter. BUT - if people come to Babble, they'll be able to read all posts on Babble, won't they? Would they be able to click on something at "PsychoBabbleTwitter" & be right IN PsychoBabble in the same way that they would if they had joined it & registered????
Sorry if I'm being dense.
Posted by Timne on July 2, 2009, at 18:46:36
In reply to Important question at end. » Dr. Bob, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:02:51
> Would they be able to click on something at "PsychoBabbleTwitter" & be right IN PsychoBabble in the same way that they would if they had joined it & registered????
>
> Sorry if I'm being dense.Yes, but they can get here through Google, too. Guess how many people have said "I love the Spitfire Grill" online? I'm hoping neither of the other two are clues about you, but if you'd ever posted that line anywhere else, your daisies would be chained together by Google. What if you'd also logged your movie interests somewhere else, maybe on Facebook, where you (hypothetically) identified yourself and used the same phrase?
And what then if you then decided that bit of ostensibly innocuous information revealed too much personal detail? Maybe a detailed explanation, coupled with the right rhetorical genuflection, would persuade this site's administrator to remove it. But the wrong intonation in your request could prompt an "I'm the therapist acting for the good of the group. NO!" response. You could be exposed to everybody that watches CNN as "the girl who loves the Spitfire Grill" and (won the lottery/ escaped a burning building/ published an award-winning book/ or whatever gets you on CNN)
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 18:58:20
In reply to Important question at end. » Dr. Bob, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:02:51
> I had thought that anyone, even non-members of PB could go to Twitter, and because of that, it's sort of more 'open to the general public'. ... any-old-body could read a clip or thumbnail of what "Kath" wrote - & just come to Babble to be nosy & read more about me & my life. In other words, not come here for the kind of support that we Babblers get & give to each other. I guess I don't like the thought of people coming here just out of curiosity sparked by something they read on Twitter.
Maybe think of it like Google? Non-members can also see something there, click on it, and be right here. And they might come at first just out of curiosity, but then like the support and information they find here and decide to become members themselves.
Bob
Posted by fayeroe on July 2, 2009, at 19:01:48
In reply to Re: Opting out of twitter thx, posted by Partlycloudy on July 2, 2009, at 17:28:06
Thx. This is getting interesting.
pcI'm having the giggles.
faye
Posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 19:01:49
In reply to Re: Opting out of twitter thx, posted by Timne on July 2, 2009, at 17:33:15
> I don't want to see my words appear on Twitter or anywhere else other than where I put them.
~ ~ Yeah. I agree.
Posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 19:01:50
In reply to Re: Opting out of twitter thx, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:16:27
I forgot that this thread is just for opting out & a new thread has been started below for discussion about the whole thing.
Kath
Posted by henrietta on July 2, 2009, at 20:12:59
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 1:50:45
I think you should tweet every one of Deneb's "I love Dr. Bob!!!" posts. She'd love it, and so would the good doctor.
Posted by fayeroe on July 2, 2009, at 20:21:50
In reply to , posted by on December 31, 1969, at 18:00:00
I only said "ditto" after someone else refused to be on twitter.
Officially, don't put me on twitter. Fayeroe
Posted by Phillipa on July 2, 2009, at 20:21:51
In reply to Re: Opting out of twitter thx, posted by Timne on July 2, 2009, at 17:33:15
Better may myself know again no no I do not want my posting name as others know of it. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 20:32:47
In reply to Important question at end. » Dr. Bob, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:02:51
I found Babble googling Luvox. There was a long thread between two posters that I really enjoyed, then I eventually made my way to Social. I liked the people so I stayed.
I don't see that as being terribly different from people finding Babble through Twitter.
I find other message boards through google searches. I'm more of a lurker than a poster, but I generally find them very helpful and am glad they are there. Sometimes I just read the information I need, or sometimes I might stick around and read lots about the topic.
Someone found Babble and asked me a question because of a comic strip I once quoted. I hope I was able to help him find the strip we both enjoyed.
Whether it's through google or studies or twitter, the important thing is surely that the people who might find a community here have a way to learn of Babble. Otherwise there might not be a community here for any of us.
I see some privacy issues for those who "follow" babble, since there is a network that shows who you follow, and if you also twitter under the same account elsewhere you can be linked to Babble. That's a problem for some people, less of a problem for others. I don't think I'd do it myself, but more out of a general caution than because I'm afraid of any specific fallout.
My bosses already know I see a therapist and have for a long time. They are very glad I do. :) My family and therapist not only know that I babble, but they know my Babble name.
But unless you sign up as a babble follower on Twitter, I see this as no more threatening to your privacy than google searches. Perhaps less because surely more people google luvox than will find this one twitter among all the twitter accounts out there.
Posted by BayLeaf on July 2, 2009, at 20:53:09
In reply to redirected 'no twitter' posts, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 0:21:31
http://www.dr-bob.org/twitter/followers.html
If this isn't already posted here, wouldn't this be a great place to add this info?
bay
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 3, 2009, at 0:27:23
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by henrietta on July 2, 2009, at 20:12:59
Henrietta,
Anyways, that's not a good idea, i put some people under that, I loved when i was kid.
Oh my gosh.....you know something when you saying something, didnt mean it to actually come true, "walsh's/Jones's are watching"......that turned into the worst night in my life! Woke up 3 times, and i'm still in a nightmare!
Ugh.........man! have I been through this life 9 times? I don't know! one hit after the next!
I want to say goodnight, to everyone, Phil, Phillipdialphia, Gobbleduck, Heriettita, Deneb, Dr-Bob, MidnightBlue, Bobby, FB, and to everyone else! Bueno's Noches.....Good night, Need to ask, which reality I'm going to wake up to tommorow, maybe all this is nightmare, you like in those movies....wake up, ahhh nothing to worry about.
Start counting Babbler's while I go to sleep. And I must make up with Racer, that is a priority. She was the best here, that helped, really in life through a website. Phillidialphia gave me warm hugs! all these years!
rj
Posted by Frustratedmama on July 3, 2009, at 10:29:00
In reply to Re: this is it » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on July 2, 2009, at 0:25:46
No twitter here either
Posted by 10derHeart on July 5, 2009, at 1:20:52
In reply to Re: will there be a 'no twitter' list?, posted by Zeba on July 4, 2009, at 11:42:22
No disrespect intended to your attorney, or to you, of course, but we all already gave Dr. Bob permission. See my post about that here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090529/msgs/904386.html
Posted by garnet71 on July 5, 2009, at 1:20:53
In reply to Re: will there be a 'no twitter' list? » Zeba, posted by 10derHeart on July 4, 2009, at 16:13:11
Just another view to add to that "disclaimer" or "ememption" concepts...
I don't know anything about law, but I do know almost every website, service provider, business has some type of "disclaimer" that supposedly exempts them from being at fault if any harm is done. For example, when I got my home inspection done, the inspector was 'exempt' from not knowing about any damage which he could not see. Well, in my basement, there was insulation stapled under the floor in one spot-it was hiding severe termite damage. It was unusual the insulation was only in that spot. I did not even think of it until later when my bathtub almost fell into my basement. I think the home inspector should have noticed the insulation roll and peeled back a corner to look into it, especially considering he saw other past termite damange, but he did not. Did I sue? No, I could not risk paying an attorney if I lost, like most low-income people. The area was easily accessible and I feel he should have known better to at least check, being the expert and all. Knowing nothing about construction, termites, and structure, I was dependent upon his expertise. Would I have won a suit against him despite the disclosure? I'll never know, but I do know people get sued all the time despite these types of 'disclaimers'.
I think a person who comes to a mental health forum run by a mental health professional and doctor has a reasonable expectation that their mental health distress comments will not be taken and broadcast to the world. Furthermore, just because we "agree" with the disclaimer by posting on the site, does that mean Dr. Bob can just take our posts, print them out, and bring them to our personal therapists and doctors or broadcast them on TV during a discovery channel episode? Hypothetical examples, but really, think about the implications, the harm that CAN be done if one wanted to...There is an expectation of some sort of safety/privacy in connection with the posts - in relation to the OWNER of the site - expected from the posters here, I think, because Dr. Bob is a mental health professional who we believe is aware of the rules that govern the mental health profession and patient disclosure laws. We would expect him to be sensitive to these issues and not harm us despite the "disclaimer" that says he can do what he wants with our posts. The point is, we would not expect harm or the broadcasting of our distress (those who express it here), regardless of any disclaimer.
Posted by garnet71 on July 5, 2009, at 1:20:54
In reply to Re: will there be a 'no twitter' list? » 10derHeart, posted by garnet71 on July 4, 2009, at 17:39:02
Ok, that was too rambly...In short, if every entity/person simply refers back to a disclosure that supposedly exonerates them from any and all responsibility for their actions or results of such actions connected with a 'transaction', would we even need civil courts?
Posted by fayeroe on July 5, 2009, at 1:20:55
In reply to Re: will there be a 'no twitter' list?, posted by garnet71 on July 4, 2009, at 18:00:13
Posted by Deneb on July 5, 2009, at 1:20:55
In reply to Re: will there be a 'no twitter' list? » 10derHeart, posted by garnet71 on July 4, 2009, at 17:39:02
Dr. Bob hasn't been broadcasting our deepest darkest thoughts or whatever on Twitter. So far the tweets have been pretty casual and not personal. Maybe we need to just trust Dr. Bob won't harm us.
He really seems to think about our safety online. He added the informed consent page and he always makes sure no identifying information is publicized. He even told reporters at the APA to not identify us. I think he is looking out for us. I trust him.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 5, 2009, at 1:28:55
In reply to Re: will there be a 'no twitter' list? » garnet71, posted by Deneb on July 5, 2009, at 1:20:55
> Dr. Bob hasn't been broadcasting our deepest darkest thoughts or whatever on Twitter. So far the tweets have been pretty casual and not personal. Maybe we need to just trust Dr. Bob won't harm us.
Maybe some posters are wary because they were harmed when they trusted others in the past.
Bob
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 5, 2009, at 1:40:30
In reply to Re: trust, posted by Dr. Bob on July 5, 2009, at 1:28:55
due!
You ever heard someone changing into a devil? Snap! it was my entire life!
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 5, 2009, at 1:45:54
In reply to Re: will there be a 'no twitter' list? » 10derHeart, posted by garnet71 on July 5, 2009, at 1:20:53
man.....man! tweet tweet tweet! it just doesnt stop does it?
High school was over....EEE EEE, life isnt over, i mean garnet71? twitter? what about facebook? well...nevermind, somepeople I know, metrically thinking know abou this....not thrilled.
Twittie and privite Email? does that sound good?
Posted by SLS on July 5, 2009, at 5:41:56
In reply to Re: trust, posted by Dr. Bob on July 5, 2009, at 1:28:55
> Maybe some posters are wary because they were harmed when they trusted others in the past.
My concerns revolve around a distrust of others outside the realm of Psycho-Babble. It only takes one. Whether or not such a thing is possible is not a dilemma for me if I opt out of something from which I receive no benefit.
Better safe than sorry...
- Scott
Posted by Partlycloudy on July 5, 2009, at 7:23:21
In reply to Re: trust, posted by Dr. Bob on July 5, 2009, at 1:28:55
> > Dr. Bob hasn't been broadcasting our deepest darkest thoughts or whatever on Twitter. So far the tweets have been pretty casual and not personal. Maybe we need to just trust Dr. Bob won't harm us.
>
> Maybe some posters are wary because they were harmed when they trusted others in the past.
>
> BobI want to be the person who decides what is submitted of my words to Twitter, not somebody else. It's not an issue of trust for me, but of being in control of my input.
pc
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 5, 2009, at 11:27:06
In reply to Re: trust - Not my issue » Dr. Bob, posted by Partlycloudy on July 5, 2009, at 7:23:21
I don't trust anyone here anymore, even the nicest people are turning into something else.
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