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Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:19
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks » zeugma, posted by Dr. Bob on November 24, 2006, at 19:04:28
This is getting to the point where it is ridiculous!!!
Posted by fayeroe on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:19
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by dreamboat_annie on November 25, 2006, at 14:16:56
> This is getting to the point where it is ridiculous!!!
in my mind, it's been ridiculous as long as i've been coming here...............but, it won't change for the better.....there will be new rules and more questions and more people blocked.........
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:19
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!! » dreamboat_annie, posted by fayeroe on November 25, 2006, at 18:18:59
30 weeks is abit extreme. Thats more than half a year......
Oh well. I live in Finland. People here are terrified of Russia as we were under Russian rule for quite a while, and there was a terrible war. In fact, my grandparents had to move, ie they were refugees I suppose, because the bit of land that they're from is now Russia, but it was part of Finland. They had to move with the Finnish border its quite sad. Often Finnish families living in this area had 24 hours to up and leave....they sent their children first on the trains, you see. And my grandparents lived next to the railway station on the Finnish side and would look after these kids.....and hoped that their parents weren't shot (if often happened). Anyway, all I can say is that Russia is alot more stable these days. Thankfully. You should see the border boundries here between Finland/Russia..... Its something out of James Bond.
Anyway this is rather off topic. Its very sad that the bloke died and the other journalist. And all those Oliogoarchs (I can't spell!) bilionaires...... Putin made some slighly risque joke a while back didn't he? But don't they all these days, when they think the microphone is switched off??
M
Posted by tensor on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:19
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by dreamboat_annie on November 25, 2006, at 14:16:56
> This is getting to the point where it is ridiculous!!!
I have to agree. 30weeks.. come on.
/Mattias
Posted by Declan on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:19
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!! » dreamboat_annie, posted by tensor on November 26, 2006, at 16:22:35
"Men fall from great fortune because of the same shortcomings that led to their rise"
Jean de la Bruyere
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:19
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by dreamboat_annie on November 25, 2006, at 14:16:56
I'm sorry you are blocked again, Zeugma. I enjoy your posts. They are interesting and stimulate discussion on issues of importance. Too bad it can't be recognized or accepted that issues of importance often are contentious and divisive. It is the nature of the political beast. Seems a pity to have a politics board when debate has to be stifled to accommodate narrow-mindedly, subjectively applied and unduly restraining civility guidelines.
Posted by Dunder on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:19
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks » zeugma, posted by Dr. Bob on November 24, 2006, at 19:04:28
I really don't get this at all. This is meant to be a politics board. Who was supposed to be offended by Zeugma's post? If someone disagreed with his/her analysis, a politics board would presumably be the ideal place to put an opposing point of view. That is how we best establish truth by putting different views across. I know that most of us on babble are troubled emotionally and personal attacks/judgements should never be part of a supportive site. But if it is deemed that we are all too fragile to cope with having our poltical leaders criticized then I believe that this is taking sensitivty a bit too far.
Posted by Declan on December 4, 2006, at 2:57:20
In reply to Uncivil block length, posted by Dunder on November 29, 2006, at 5:00:22
No one is *actually* offended.
Some people *might* be offended, but they do not come here, and even then it would be iffy.
I assume it was exemplary treatment appropriate to one of Z's nationality, for unsuitable attitudes and demeanour.
(Australians do not greatly respect any politicians)
But maybe not?
It puzzles me.
Posted by verne on December 4, 2006, at 9:08:54
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by dreamboat_annie on November 25, 2006, at 14:16:56
I only post in the hope that this post will divert attention from my many other posts worthy of blocks. I know that if I join the outcry over this block, my offensive posts may be overlooked.
I'm a scoundrel really. I have no empathy at all.
The purpose of this board is to say to each other, "I'm OK, You're OK" and pat each other on the back.
verne
Posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 4, 2006, at 10:26:28
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by verne on December 4, 2006, at 9:08:54
30 weeks seems cruel and unusual to me.
****I have not read the thread that lead up to the block, I'm commenting on blocking policy in general****
It might help me if an offended party (just once) would step forward and say that 30 weeks feels like justice.
I wanted someone to get blocked once, but only for a week. That's not an option though.
The "victim" here [of the offensive behavior] seems to have very little connection to the proceedings of the blocking process.
Sure would be nice if we could either talk these disagreements out like adults, or count on the same processes that help victims recover their dignity and worth in the criminal justice system.
As it is, the victim of an offense is thrice victimized
1) once, by the actual incivility/offensive comment
and
2) again, by the guilt that he/she has sent a peer to block-land. A land of cruel and unusual punishment, including (but not limited to)- social ostracism, forced silence, hopelessness in changing the blocking system, and lack of access to resources that would aid in an appeal.
3) "victim" is unable to understand a blockee's mind, and thus may always wonder what role his or her own behavior played in a dispute. A feeling of "survivor's guilt" in which both parties contributed to an uncivil exchange, but only one ended up being punished.
Posted by muffled on December 4, 2006, at 11:47:06
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!! » verne, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 4, 2006, at 10:26:28
Posted by Declan on December 4, 2006, at 13:28:56
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by verne on December 4, 2006, at 9:08:54
Verne, you can be a scoundrel and have no empathy at all, and I'll still pat your back.
You don't even have to pat mine.
As long as you don't bite.
Posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 4, 2006, at 13:55:35
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!! » verne, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 4, 2006, at 10:26:28
verne,
maybe you need a little attention, and i did it unconsciously. hope you're feeling better?sorry again. I always click that "pernicious" box.
oopsie.
Dr. Bob- can you please respond to my post above? muchas gracias,
-ll
Posted by Jakeman on December 4, 2006, at 20:59:59
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by dreamboat_annie on November 25, 2006, at 14:16:56
> This is getting to the point where it is ridiculous!!!
Just stopped by for a visit. Now I'm reminded why I quit posting. I also noticed many former contributers are not around anymore.
Posted by sdb on December 4, 2006, at 21:34:04
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!!, posted by dreamboat_annie on November 25, 2006, at 14:16:56
don't let him/her rest for too long in the Gulag :-(
sdb
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 8, 2006, at 8:45:49
In reply to Re: blocked for 30 weeks - Oh, for God's sake!! » verne, posted by LlurpsieBlossom on December 4, 2006, at 10:26:28
> Sure would be nice if we could either talk these disagreements out
I agree, that would be nice.
> 2) ... the guilt that he/she has sent a peer to block-land.
That should be minimized because:
> The "victim" here [of the offensive behavior] seems to have very little connection to the proceedings of the blocking process.
Though of course they may still *feel* guilty...
> 3) ... A feeling of "survivor's guilt" in which both parties contributed to an uncivil exchange, but only one ended up being punished.
I try, with probably varying degrees of success, to be fair when both parties contribute...
Bob
Posted by Sigismund on June 6, 2007, at 1:59:19
In reply to Re: blocking policy, posted by Dr. Bob on December 8, 2006, at 8:45:49
I hope the policy of escalating blocks has changed, because if it hasn't Zeugma is at risk of a year long block for entirely unremarkable assertions (should he come back and make them) that every man and his dog agrees with.
His block was the most unreasonable I have seen here.
When is it over?
Posted by gardenergirl on June 6, 2007, at 7:34:26
In reply to Zeugma's Block, posted by Sigismund on June 6, 2007, at 1:59:19
> I hope the policy of escalating blocks has changed, because if it hasn't Zeugma is at risk of a year long block for entirely unremarkable assertions (should he come back and make them) that every man and his dog agrees with.
Unfortunately, the statement he made in the post he was blocked for does not fit your description above. If one is concerned about another block, the risk of blocking likely can be reduced by consulting a "civility buddy" if one wishes.> When is it over?
Best of my knowledge: June 22 or 23.
gg
Posted by Sigismund on June 6, 2007, at 17:06:15
In reply to Re: Zeugma's Block » Sigismund, posted by gardenergirl on June 6, 2007, at 7:34:26
>the statement he made in the post he was blocked for does not fit your description above
Well, perhaps not quite.
This is the end of the thread.
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