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Posted by Dr. Bob on December 12, 2006, at 1:28:53
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob, posted by Karen44 on December 11, 2006, at 21:22:25
> If students get to decide what can and can not be posted, then I guess this who psychobabble thing is ridiculous. Who decided a mere student with her own problems would get to decide what could be posted?
I did, see:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#Deputy
Someone can be a student with her own problems, or a stay at home mom, and still fulfill the requirements and do the job. With the trust and respect of the community.
> I am a psychologist and would not presume to deal with things the way gardengirl did
Remember, this isn't therapy. She might not have done that in a therapy group, either. Also, reasonable people can disagree.
> No wonder there are psychiatrists out there who think this who psychobabble thing is not so hot.
In some ways it isn't so hot, but in other ways it is...
Bob
Posted by madeline on December 12, 2006, at 7:02:00
In reply to Re: deciding what can and can not be posted, posted by Dr. Bob on December 12, 2006, at 1:28:53
If someone posts here and says they are a doctor, psychologist etc... do you require verification of that claim?
Maddie
Posted by one woman cine on December 12, 2006, at 13:22:54
In reply to Credentials? » Dr. Bob, posted by madeline on December 12, 2006, at 7:02:00
There's an article entitled "Legal concerns for psychiatrists who maintain websites"
here's the abstract -
http://psychservices.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/57/4/450
Also, Karen44 and anyone else who might be interested - there is a study going on about online psych forums (it pertains to dr. bob's site too) and adverse reactions etc. that is independent. If you're interested (or if you want to see the full text of that article), please e-mail me at redsmith.1776@yahoo.com. No flame mails, please.
Posted by sunnydays on December 12, 2006, at 13:57:14
In reply to Re: deciding what can and can not be posted, posted by Dr. Bob on December 12, 2006, at 1:28:53
> Someone can be a student with her own problems, or a stay at home mom, and still fulfill the requirements and do the job. With the trust and respect of the community.
***** Absolutely. I think all the deputies here do a great job at making tough decisions.
> > No wonder there are psychiatrists out there who think this who psychobabble thing is not so hot.
>
> In some ways it isn't so hot, but in other ways it is...***** I agree with that. I have made a ton of improvement in my life that very well may not have come about so quickly if babble wasn't here. They probably would have happened, but the support here has given me the strength to make them more quickly. And I thought long and hard before I started posting here. I really think that the mission of the site is admirable, and that the people that post here truly do the best they can at helping each other.
sunnydays
Posted by Gabbi~G~ on December 12, 2006, at 17:19:28
In reply to JUST adhd??, posted by tofuemmy on December 11, 2006, at 16:33:59
> Heck, I'd be flattered!
>
> ;-) Hugs to gg
>
> emHa, me too, but what in the blue hell that addition (not yours) had to do with anything I can't guess.
You know we share the same earworm, and that's not a very common song. I even said to Ryan "And what really annoys me is that I want to argue with it, a lemon is NOT impossible to eat"
Well, back to admin.
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2006, at 3:52:42
In reply to Credentials? » Dr. Bob, posted by madeline on December 12, 2006, at 7:02:00
> If someone posts here and says they are a doctor, psychologist etc... do you require verification of that claim?
I do try to enforce:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#pick
Bob
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:26:44
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » Karen44, posted by emme on December 11, 2006, at 21:42:41
> > I find it highly insulting to have a student decide if someone's message is okay to be posted
>
> Why?
>
she's not a professional; has her own problems; and is in my opinion not in a position to judge.
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:31:58
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » Karen44, posted by muffled on December 11, 2006, at 23:34:27
> >> If students get to decide what can and can not be posted, then I guess this who psychobabble thing is ridiculous. Who decided a mere student with her own problems would get to decide what could be posted? What a crock. No wonder there are psychiatrists out there who think this who psychobabble thing is not so hot.
> >
> > Karen44
>
> **Yo so Karen44, I not a student, I not nothing but a stay at home MOM. So what am I a useless piece of sh*t with no brains at all?????? A lowlife of society? A non-person?
> Just cuz you got an education makes you have better judgement than me???? You think you better than me?
> Who better to understand craziness than a crazy is what I say, HA! And I could say a whole lotta sad stuff bout you, but it wouldn't be civil.
> This here's Bobs site and he can do WHATEVER he sees fit.
> You don't like it , then leave.
> Try it , and like it, then live with it.
> And GG is very nice I'd have you know. never seen her diss people down.
> Muffledyou don't indiscriminately block people; that's my beef. of course you have valuable things to contribute. besides i didn't diss gg.
karen44
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:43:00
In reply to Re: Credentials?, posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2006, at 3:52:42
> > If someone posts here and says they are a doctor, psychologist etc... do you require verification of that claim?
>
> I do try to enforce:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#pick
>
> BobI am truely a licensed psychologist, and I think Dr. Bob knows this to be true. I would have no problem with him checking to see that I am licensed in several states including Illinois. I am not interested in being insulted by others who think I have insulted them. My only beef is with the judgement of some who have been designated as deputies.
karen44
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 14, 2006, at 17:26:41
In reply to Re: Credentials?, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:43:00
Hi Karen44,
You wrote,[...a licensed psychologist...of some who have been designated as deputies...].
I am also interested in this deputy system. I will follow your posts concerning this because of the psychological/emotional aspect concerning this that you may be more qualified than I, as a psychologists, to comment on.
Lou
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 17:36:55
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » emme, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:26:44
> > > I find it highly insulting to have a student decide if someone's message is okay to be posted
> >
> > Why?
> >
>
>
> she's not a professional; has her own problems; and is in my opinion not in a position to judge.**Ahhhh, and are YOU in a position to judge my educated dear?
Is THAT it?
Or only is a person w/ a PHD in that position?
Or mebbe God Himself?
Mebbe we need God to come and moderate.....
Or whomever your higher power is.
Bobs pretty educated....and IMO has not got blocking down pat yet....
Bob has chosen and educated his deputies in what his criteria are.
This is Bobs site.
Blocks hurt me terribly. On assoerted levels. I have a problem with the blocking system.
But I think the deputies and Bob are probably just doing the best that they humanly can.
We are all humans.
You too.
Ooooops, that might be considered uncivil to rewfer to someone as human......
Sigh.
Muffled
Posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 17:44:03
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » emme, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:26:44
Karen - I think of Babble as a peer run support group. Bob definately oversees the place, but basically it's a bunch of psych patients all trying to help each other out (on the good days).
I'd hazard a guess that most websites for us are also peer run, for the most part.
If Bob disagrees with anything a deputy does, he just overrules it. If you have an issue with what may look like some unfairness...take it up with the big guy. It all lands on his desk.
em
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 17:47:17
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:31:58
Who decided a mere student with her own problems would get to decide what could be posted? >
> you don't indiscriminately block people; that's my beef. besides i didn't diss gg.
>
* a mere student
Calling someone mere, is dissing them in my book....*Implying that 'her own problems' would interfere with her judgement is dissing someone in my book. And we ALL got problems....
* I think there is less indiscriminant blocking than there used to be.
I have issue with the LENGTH of blocks.
Some have issue with fairness as well. But since when has life been fair?
We are dealing with imperfect humanity.
In an ugly nasty world.
Muffled
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:32:48
In reply to Hmmmmm, I'm feeling dissed., posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 17:36:55
Wow. such a strong reaction! I never said I was in a better position. I owned my position and feeling.
Karen44
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:44:06
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » Karen44, posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 17:44:03
Final note from me; I don't intend to return to this thread. Sorry I used the term "mere." My point is that I would not put myself in the position of being a deputy, and I am a psycholgist. I am also dealing with depression, and I am struggling with whether or not to do ECT as it could mean the end of my career. With any negative consequences, I would most certainly kill myself. My career means everything to me. I don't take anything lightly.
Karen44
Posted by Happyflower on December 14, 2006, at 20:49:29
In reply to Re: Hmmmmm, I'm feeling dissed. » muffled, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:32:48
I don't think you need to have a degree to be a deputy of this site, in order to a good job. A degree means you spent a lot of time in school and yes it is wonderful, but it doesn't mean that you are any more adjusted personally than anyone else.
My T has 2 siblings who are T's and one has a drinking problem and the other one suffers from depression. My T has his share of personal problem too, I am sure. I have met a lot of PHD's in a lot of professions, and they aren't any better than anyone else. Those who think they are better, well ummmm. I can't say what I want, but ummmm..... well, they have T's who can help with that personality disorder. LOL
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 21:03:45
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:44:06
> Final note from me; I don't intend to return to this thread. Sorry I used the term "mere." My point is that I would not put myself in the position of being a deputy, and I am a psycholgist. I am also dealing with depression, and I am struggling with whether or not to do ECT as it could mean the end of my career. With any negative consequences, I would most certainly kill myself. My career means everything to me. I don't take anything lightly.
>
> Karen44**Ahhhh, would the REAL Karen44 please stand up! Yayyy!
You ARE human, you DO struggle, just like us!!!!!
Welcome to Babbleland. You just might be a good deputy....
Come to psychology board and talk with us.
We behave MUCH better over there. Maybe I haven't seen your posts. Sorry if so, I seem to miss alot of stuff.
I hope you got some good IRL support. Sounds like you are in a very scarey place. I am sad to hear that :(
But for support from other strugglers, come on over.
Hope to see you there.
Muffled
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:03:58
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » gardenergirl, posted by Karen44 on December 10, 2006, at 21:41:02
> Never mind gardengirl; you don't need to respond to who are you. I just learned you are a student with ADHD. I hope you don't let such power as being "a deputy" go to your head.
Thanks for sharing your concern. It certainly is an important issue for anyone involved in relationships with power differentials. I'll follow
Oh look, a puppy!
Regards,
gg
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 21:06:27
In reply to power of deputies » Karen44, posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:03:58
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:07:51
In reply to Re: gardenergirl, posted by Toph on December 11, 2006, at 9:56:44
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:14:44
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » Karen44, posted by emme on December 11, 2006, at 15:23:07
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:15:51
In reply to JUST adhd??, posted by tofuemmy on December 11, 2006, at 16:33:59
> Heck, I'd be flattered!
>
> ;-) Hugs to gg
>
> emCan't forget IPS: Irregular Polygon Syndrome. ;)
Thanks. Hugs right back to you.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:18:49
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » Karen44, posted by muffled on December 11, 2006, at 23:34:27
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> ...a stay at home MOM....which is a difficult and extremely undervalued job.
Thanks for your kind words.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:20:05
In reply to ((((((((((((gg))))))))))))) (nm), posted by Deneb on December 11, 2006, at 23:56:56
It means a lot that you would post a supportive message to me when you're struggling with your own stuff right now.
((((((Deneb)))))
Take care.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:21:10
In reply to Re: deciding what can and can not be posted, posted by sunnydays on December 12, 2006, at 13:57:14
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