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Posted by Wildflower on December 2, 2003, at 13:45:55
Perhaps a diet and nutrition one? It seems to be a common concern of many posters.
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 2, 2003, at 20:10:49
In reply to Dr. Bob - Would you consider adding a new board?, posted by Wildflower on December 2, 2003, at 13:45:55
> Perhaps a diet and nutrition one? It seems to be a common concern of many posters.
There's one already, called Alternative:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/Lar
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 3, 2003, at 3:14:05
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob - Would you consider adding a new board? » Wildflower, posted by Larry Hoover on December 2, 2003, at 20:10:49
> > Perhaps a diet and nutrition one? It seems to be a common concern of many posters.
>
> There's one already, called AlternativeYes, but maybe the idea was nutrition for nutrition's sake rather than as an alternative treatment? Let's see if there's more input from others...
Bob
Posted by tealady on December 3, 2003, at 6:14:21
In reply to Re: diet and nutrition board, posted by Dr. Bob on December 3, 2003, at 3:14:05
I agree with Lar..it's called alter.
Overall nutrition has to consider the combination of diet and supplements...they really can't be separated
Jan
Posted by Wildflower on December 3, 2003, at 6:55:54
In reply to Re: diet and nutrition board, posted by Dr. Bob on December 3, 2003, at 3:14:05
I was thinking more along the lines of exercise and dieting (not related to supplements). Reading back through many posts, weight gain seems to be a common SE but no one has addressed or given support for a regime to lose the weight. There are diet and exercise sites but they do not offer support for depression, anxiety, etc. It would be great to have these all in one place.
Just a thought... :-)
Posted by Dinah on December 3, 2003, at 8:51:11
In reply to Re: diet and nutrition board, posted by Dr. Bob on December 3, 2003, at 3:14:05
I agree with Wildflower. Didn't we at one time discuss adding Psychobabble Lifestyle or something. Diet, exercise, etc. etc. Food is far more than balancing the right mix of nutrients.
I think the distinction between prescription meds and alternative meds is far less than the distinction between alternative and lifestyle would be. I still don't get how St. John's Wort should be on a separate board than Prozac.
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 3, 2003, at 11:28:06
In reply to Re: diet and nutrition board » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on December 3, 2003, at 8:51:11
> I think the distinction between prescription meds and alternative meds is far less than the distinction between alternative and lifestyle would be. I still don't get how St. John's Wort should be on a separate board than Prozac.
That's why I thought the alternative board was a good fit....
The posting frequency on alternative is not such that there isn't room for an expanded range of sub-topics, IMHO. And, we frequently talk about various diets (e.g. low-carb) as an adjunct to more formal supplementation strategies, already.
Lar
Posted by shar on December 3, 2003, at 20:58:16
In reply to Re: diet and nutrition board » Dinah, posted by Larry Hoover on December 3, 2003, at 11:28:06
I agree with Lar. Supplements and nutrition are closely related to diet/dieting (imho). I am just beginning to try some of the supplements, vitamins, nutrients that are available, and...if they work in spite of my body chemistry, I might even consider exercise and other diet considerations.
It seems an ok fit to me.
Shar
Posted by slinky on December 3, 2003, at 21:20:48
In reply to Dr. Bob - Would you consider adding a new board?, posted by Wildflower on December 2, 2003, at 13:45:55
..and vegetables.
Mainly fruit..
Nuts ! Brazil nuts are high in selenium.
Bob..your grocery analogy is coming true.
Posted by Larry Hoover on December 3, 2003, at 21:59:22
In reply to Re: Fruit !, posted by slinky on December 3, 2003, at 21:20:48
> ..and vegetables.
> Mainly fruit..
> Nuts ! Brazil nuts are high in selenium.
> Bob..your grocery analogy is coming true.Not meaning to sound contrary, but the selenium content in individual brazil nuts in the following study ranged from 0.03 to 512.0 ppm selenium (that's a factor of 17,000), with substantial variation both between and within geographical regions. Just for interest sake, and why supplements sometimes make a lot of sense.
Lar
Chemosphere. 1995 Feb;30(4):801-2.
Selenium content of Brazil nuts from two geographic locations in Brazil.Chang JC, Gutenmann WH, Reid CM, Lisk DJ.
Toxic Chemicals Laboratory, New York State College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, Cornell University, Ithaca 14853-7401.
Brazil nuts (Bertholletia excelsa) natively contain very high concentrations of selenium. Since dietary selenium, including Brazil nuts, have been associated with protection against tumor development in laboratory animal studies, it was of interest to determine the selenium content of the nuts from different nut-growing regions of Brazil. In the work reported, 162 nuts from each of two regions (Acre-Rondonia and Manaus-Belem) were individually analyzed for selenium. The average +/- standard deviation and range of selenium concentrations in ppm, fresh weight for nuts from Acre-Rondonia and Manaus-Belem regions were, respectively, 3.06 +/- 4.01 (0.03-31.7) and 36.0 +/- 50.0 (1.25-512.0). The toxicology of Brazil nut consumption is discussed.
Posted by slinky on December 3, 2003, at 22:11:31
In reply to Re: brazil nuts » slinky, posted by Larry Hoover on December 3, 2003, at 21:59:22
..Lar
I take 200ug of selenium daily (made from primary grown yeast) and it's cheaper to buy than brazil nuts anyway :)
Posted by Wildflower on December 4, 2003, at 9:05:25
In reply to Dr. Bob - Would you consider adding a new board?, posted by Wildflower on December 2, 2003, at 13:45:55
Posted by Dinah on December 4, 2003, at 9:11:00
In reply to OK, I give in... Alternative is fine. (nm), posted by Wildflower on December 4, 2003, at 9:05:25
Well, I don't think I'm going to go to Alternative and talk about the whipped cream and pie I ate last night. Substance would be closer, but I doubt I'd do that either.
Nor do I think I'd mention the exercise tapes that lay dusty in my closet, and how hard it is to find a bare space on my floor to exercise.
So I'm guessing at present, it'd be Social.
Posted by tealady on December 4, 2003, at 11:02:06
In reply to Re: OK, I give in... Alternative is fine. » Wildflower, posted by Dinah on December 4, 2003, at 9:11:00
> Well, I don't think I'm going to go to Alternative and talk about the whipped cream and pie I ate last night. Substance would be closer, but I doubt I'd do that either.
I've talked about my eating pawpaw and cream?
and exercise effects the way our bodies utilize the foods/supplements leading to weight loss /gain etc...there is even research on this
Jan (who is one of those uncomfortable with social<g>)
Posted by Dinah on December 4, 2003, at 11:04:48
In reply to Re: OK, I give in... Alternative is fine. » Dinah, posted by tealady on December 4, 2003, at 11:02:06
It's no big deal. Honestly I probably wouldn't use a Healthy Lifestyles board either. The truth is I don't *want* a Healthy Lifestyle. :)
Posted by tealady on December 4, 2003, at 11:09:36
In reply to Re: OK, I give in... Alternative is fine. » Wildflower, posted by Dinah on December 4, 2003, at 9:11:00
Should add.
Perhaps exercise/diet could fir over both boards alter and social?.like for posts that discuss the more scientific aspects of how exercise and diet/supps affect weight it would be alter (as it is now)..
and general chat about how much one lost/gained this week like a weigh in club etc. or which exercise tapes one prefers should be on social?Just a suggestion, Jan
Posted by justyourlaugh on December 4, 2003, at 17:21:40
In reply to Alternative and social? » Dinah, posted by tealady on December 4, 2003, at 11:09:36
hi tlady,
its nice to see you again,,
i was keeping an eye out for you:)
i tries the exercise tapes
but they left such a horrible tast in my mouth..
blahhh
jyl
Posted by Racer on December 4, 2003, at 21:11:44
In reply to Re: diet and nutrition board » Dinah, posted by Larry Hoover on December 3, 2003, at 11:28:06
{{small voice}} I know, that's *my* problem, not necessarily anyone else's, but maybe we could try to get together? Hell, I'll take the first ten pounds mailed to me, and would have been very pleased while on Paxil years back to send off thirty or forty pounds to anyone who needed them.
The results of the behavior may be different, but comfort eating and anorexia seem pretty related to me, and I do know how I felt gaining weight on the other ADs I've been on. I agree with the poster who said that other diet related boards are unlikely to be supportive of the mental health issues, and a Lifestyles board would be a boon to us here.
And, personally, I would be overjoyed to be able to communicate with others who've dealt with anorexia on a Babble board. It's a lonely feeling, and it's so hard to discuss with anyone who hasn't experienced it. It's also so danged confusing that it's very difficult to talk about with a therapist, so a nice, anonymous online forum where we can take our time and worm through the mazes to get the feelings sorted out -- well, I can't even express how it could help, so you decide if it would be so meaningful as to be inexpressable...
Just my $.02, and cheap at half the price.
Posted by justyourlaugh on December 4, 2003, at 22:44:09
In reply to maybe a new board on Eating Disorders?, posted by Racer on December 4, 2003, at 21:11:44
racer,
when a person finds (or stumbles) onto "anything"
that causes harm to self,,
is a lonely hole....
i think anything can be our "drug of choice"
some people get such healing from fasting once a week(we may do it endlessly)
some will go to the gym for relief(we may keep our heart rate up till our bodies stop)..no pain no gain..
others smoke a little weed...
drink a few beer...
get their "thrills" from jumping out of planes..
robbing banks..
skate boarding..
painting .
writting.
dreaming
sleeping....ooopps..
its not about how much we weigh..or do not..
we need to understand why we do it...
i cant control my blue eyes..nor my ability to never be able to wear belly tops... nor my age...or the grey in my hair...sure i can "change" my appearence...but i will always see the scares of child birth,,my mother's face in the mirror...
Posted by stjames on December 5, 2003, at 23:04:28
In reply to maybe a new board on Eating Disorders?, posted by Racer on December 4, 2003, at 21:11:44
And, personally, I would be overjoyed to be able to communicate with others who've dealt with anorexia on a Babble board. It's a lonely feeling, and it's so hard to discuss with anyone who hasn't experienced it.
I would agree. We like to think we can relate to each others illness but we often don't.
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