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Posted by oracle on September 15, 2002, at 19:09:26
Since may feel Dr. Bob is not listening to us, the below would be the next step up to take your conserns.
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I find that along with other issues, it is unethical to be both moderator and researcher:
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Posted by Zo on September 15, 2002, at 22:20:20
In reply to The next step, posted by oracle on September 15, 2002, at 19:09:26
Oracle,
Thank you for this useful research, and for taking this gutsy step. You're going to catch a lot of shit. .. but you are doing the right thing. You are showing compassion for all, for the larger issues, and for Bob's potential growth.
Zo
Posted by shar on September 16, 2002, at 1:54:02
In reply to Re: The next step » oracle, posted by Zo on September 15, 2002, at 22:20:20
I might be more agreeable to this "next step" if I hadn't gone through a registration process that very clearly laid out the purposes and conventions of this board. By registering I agreed that I understood what had been said, and it was ok with me, and I wanted to participate. Sort of like informed consent.
I am just not 'getting' what anyone hopes to accomplish by contacting the university officials. Are we going to write and say "Bob doesn't listen to us like we want and his guidelines are vague?"
And, the ultimate result? The boards come falling down. I really start to wonder, as I have previously, whether admin is the most important thing here? I have to go back to basics, and these boards are for people (like me) who have problems of one kind or another, emotional probably, and want help. And, many of us have been helped here. And still are being helped, and new people come and get help, support and education.
I think anyone who wants to write about Dr. Bob should do so, and contact the university officials, and whomever else they want, and sue Dr. Bob for whatever reason they can think up. But, don't forget the registration process, and don't forget that it is completely voluntary to be here. That doesn't mean love it or leave it, but, in my mind, it means register your displeasure on admin or leave it.
I hope the boards are still standing when it's all over.
I think mine should be a sufficiently unpopular stance that it might save Oracle some suffering.
Shar
Posted by oracle on September 16, 2002, at 2:00:44
In reply to Re: The next step, posted by shar on September 16, 2002, at 1:54:02
> I might be more agreeable to this "next step" if I hadn't gone through a registration process that very clearly laid out the purposes and conventions of this board. By registering I agreed that I understood what had been said, and it was ok with me, and I wanted to participate. Sort of like informed consent.
Sorry, I used the wrong indefinate article, "a" is better the "the".
I agree with your points, but reguardless of whatever the terms of contract are, we are this board and this board is nothing without us.
Posted by mist on September 16, 2002, at 9:14:11
In reply to Re: The next step, posted by shar on September 16, 2002, at 1:54:02
> Are we going to write and say "Bob doesn't listen to us like we want and his guidelines are vague?"
> And, the ultimate result? The boards come falling down.Agree. It's not as if we're paying money to post here or he's breaking the law.
As far as I know this site can be shut down at any time. By Dr. Bob and presumably by the university he works for as well.
I can't imagine they'd want to get involved in disputes between posters and the board moderator.
Also, the "ethical" issue of the researcher being the moderator is not the issue anyone has been concerned about here, as far as I know. I haven't heard anything said about research issues.
This is the end of the thread.
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