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Posted by JonW on June 26, 2002, at 23:04:08
Hi,
The recent thread about a memorial for those who die by suicide made me wonder... I know there are messages sprinkled here and there about people who have finally found some kind of med combination that works or who successfully dealth with a difficult situation they were faced with. Why not dedicate a board to these types of posts? Maybe it could be called Psycho-Babble Milestones. Maybe the board should also let us post positive comments about fellow babblers, rewarding those of us who may need it most. The point is that it would be a collection of wonderful news. And as time goes on, it would be proof that people do get better... I don't know, what do you think?
Jon
p.s. This post isn't about the "Memorial" thread above and I'm not proposing this instead of a memorial but in addition to.
Posted by shar on June 27, 2002, at 3:24:16
In reply to Milestones Board?, posted by JonW on June 26, 2002, at 23:04:08
Posted by JonW on June 27, 2002, at 3:50:11
In reply to A combo Faith 'n Hope board? (nm) » JonW, posted by shar on June 27, 2002, at 3:24:16
Hi Shar,
I don't see why faith is necessary to describe a board that is of strictly possitive messages... maybe we just have different definitions of words, though. The posts would be of something like "I've been taking Nardil for my TRD for the last 4 weeks and it works!! I've finally gotten my life back!" And the replies that would be allowed would all be in support cheering this persons accomplishment. Or someone might notice a good quality in someone else and choose to post it to the board praising this person. This is what I was thinking of... a collection of positive things to read about. Many of the people who post about their success on this new board would have matching posts of great struggle on the other boards and this may send a very positive message. Anyway, this is just a suggestion and I was curious if anyone else thought it might be a good idea or not?
Jon
Posted by Fi on June 27, 2002, at 7:29:55
In reply to Milestones Board?, posted by JonW on June 26, 2002, at 23:04:08
I'd thought about something similar myself, last night (amazing the things you get to think thru when you can't sleep!)
Not sure what would be the best name, but I was thinking of some sort of page which could be called something like About PB (or history or background or something). It could include things about why PB was set up, links to Dr Bob's papers/talks (and maybe other relevant refs), plus a section on the experience of the Boards. As you say, this could include selections from the posts people have made about how they found it helpful(or not), and could also comment that one important poster had killed herself during the time, giving her name and making it a link to a page put together by whoever it was who volunteered to do this on their own site.
This could be put in context- suicide is a recognised action by people with psychological problems, so the fact that one of us took that option should not be such a surprise. The profound reaction to it could also be seen as an example of the trauma which is caused to others (however unintentionally) by a suicide- which is another reason to keep going and not take that choice.
I think a background page would be interesting anyway, as well as providing a forum for mentioning Sar.
Fi
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 27, 2002, at 10:01:27
In reply to Milestones Board?, posted by JonW on June 26, 2002, at 23:04:08
> I know there are messages sprinkled here and there about people who have finally found some kind of med combination that works or who successfully dealth with a difficult situation they were faced with. Why not dedicate a board to these types of posts? Maybe it could be called Psycho-Babble Milestones... The point is that it would be a collection of wonderful news... it would be proof that people do get better...
Hmm, interesting idea... But do you mean a separate board that people would post good news to? Instead of posting it to, say, PB?
Or do you mean a collection of links to posts, like I've been thinking about for a memorial-type area? That way, people could just go ahead and post as usual and a link to their post could be added later to the milestones area.
I think I like the links idea better. But adding them would be a job... Wait, that's what PB Tips is for, could it be a "folder" there? And could memorials be another? Hmm...
Bob
Posted by Fi on June 28, 2002, at 10:00:13
In reply to Re: Milestones Board?, posted by Dr. Bob on June 27, 2002, at 10:01:27
Personally, I would still think a *page* (rather than a new board or set of tips) would be much more accessible for people using the site. They could just read it, rather than jumping in and out of links (which might also not make a lot of sense out of context).
Again, personally I would want it to include the kind of content I mentioned before at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/5863.html (eg background, links to papers as well as milestones/memorials)
I do realise that the big disadvantage would be the time required to put it together. It would also need a bit of updating(tho this could be kept minimal). And I'm not sure if posters permission would need to be asked before quoting from their posts.
I think it would actually be a good idea for such a page to be short, and direct people to the Board archives it they want to find out more.
*if* it would help, I could put together an example of the kind of thing I mean. But respect Dr Bob's decision, whatever.
Fi
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 28, 2002, at 12:15:18
In reply to Re: Milestones/bgrd page? , posted by Fi on June 28, 2002, at 10:00:13
> Personally, I would still think a *page* (rather than a new board or set of tips) would be much more accessible for people using the site. They could just read it, rather than jumping in and out of links (which might also not make a lot of sense out of context).
Aren't people online used to jumping in and out of links? And clicking around to get an idea of the context?
> Again, personally I would want it to include the kind of content I mentioned before at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/5863.html (eg background, links to papers as well as milestones/memorials)
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> *if* it would help, I could put together an example of the kind of thing I mean.Hmm, maybe background information could go in the FAQ? If you're willing to draft something, I'd be happy to take a look, but be aware that sometimes it takes me a long time to get to things...
Bob
Posted by krazy kat on July 1, 2002, at 11:07:34
In reply to Milestones Board?, posted by JonW on June 26, 2002, at 23:04:08
Posted by fi on July 1, 2002, at 12:20:49
In reply to Re: Milestones Board?, posted by Dr. Bob on June 27, 2002, at 10:01:27
> Hmm, interesting idea... But do you mean a separate board that people would post good news to? Instead of posting it to, say, PB?
Wait, that's what PB Tips is for, could it be a "folder" there? And could memorials be another? Hmm...
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> BobBeen thinking, and my previous bid for a page doesnt fit the current set-up. Will draft a shot at short extra Q to add to FAQ re the research.
Anyone interesting in taking on Dr Bob's idea of the Tips (unless he wants to edit them)?
Fi
Posted by JonW on July 1, 2002, at 12:27:37
In reply to Re: Milestones Board?, posted by Dr. Bob on June 27, 2002, at 10:01:27
> Or do you mean a collection of links to posts, like I've been thinking about for a memorial-type area? That way, people could just go ahead and post as usual and a link to their post could be added later to the milestones area.
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> I think I like the links idea better. But adding them would be a job... Wait, that's what PB Tips is for, could it be a "folder" there? And could memorials be another? Hmm...Hi Dr. Bob,
I agree that a page of links is probably more apropriate than a whole new board. However, it would be nice to be able to post something positive about another user, and I don't think this would be possible with a page of links. For example it would be nice to give "SoAndSo" some fame and post a message that everyone would see that might say something like "SoAndSo is so persistent! I'm so glad things worked out for him!" :) Not that this couldn't be posted to the Social board, but it just wouldn't have the same effect as if there were a place for this kind of thing and it were posted there. I also think PB Tips is so far removed... it doesn't feel like part of PB to me. I need the puke yellow background to feel at home :-) and so, I think things like this should be hosted here. Anyway, this was just an idea I thought I'd throw out there in case it inspires anything.
Jon
Posted by fi on July 1, 2002, at 12:55:12
In reply to Re: anyone taking on Milestones /Memorials Tips?, posted by fi on July 1, 2002, at 12:20:49
Sorry- just caught up with the thread further up, and seen you have already put together a set of links for Sar's memorial. It looks a good selection, sensitively done to me, although I'm very aware I wasnt one of those close to Sar.
Thanks for your work on this.
Fi
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 3, 2002, at 11:02:37
In reply to Re: Milestones Board? » Dr. Bob, posted by JonW on July 1, 2002, at 12:27:37
> I agree that a page of links is probably more apropriate than a whole new board. However, it would be nice to be able to post something positive about another user, and I don't think this would be possible with a page of links.
It wouldn't be possible directly, but it could be posted to one of the existing boards and then linked to from the page of links...
> I also think PB Tips is so far removed... it doesn't feel like part of PB to me. I need the puke yellow background to feel at home :-)
Hmm, I wonder if I can change the background color there...
> and so, I think things like this should be hosted here.
I agree, that would be best, but (1) it would be reinventing the wheel, (2) I would need to keep it working, and (3) a click is a click, whether it takes you somewhere else on the same site or around the world, right?
Bob
Posted by mist on July 3, 2002, at 22:16:52
In reply to Re: Milestones Board?, posted by Dr. Bob on July 3, 2002, at 11:02:37
> a click is a click, whether it takes you somewhere else on the same site or around the world, right?
No, a click into Yahoo is a click into hell.
Posted by Zo on July 4, 2002, at 6:53:45
In reply to a click is not a click, posted by mist on July 3, 2002, at 22:16:52
> No, a click into Yahoo is a click into hell.Really? Gee, Maybe I should move my new notify list somewhere else. Advice anybody?
Thanks!
Zo
Posted by mist on July 4, 2002, at 12:39:20
In reply to Re: a click is not a click » mist, posted by Zo on July 4, 2002, at 6:53:45
Zo--I happen to have a personal dislike of Yahoo that not everyone may share (although I know there are those who do). It's an overall reaction that I've had when using it. I think that if there is another, non-Yahoo, way to get the same thing done without major inconvenience and hardship, it's preferable. But there may not be in every case (I don't know much about these things). -mist
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> > No, a click into Yahoo is a click into hell.
>
> Really? Gee, Maybe I should move my new notify list somewhere else. Advice anybody?
>
> Thanks!
> Zo
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