Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1081174

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Re: Geodon add on?

Posted by Christ_empowered on August 8, 2015, at 19:43:48

In reply to Geodon add on?, posted by Sheilac on August 8, 2015, at 9:14:14

I take trileptal. I think its probably safer, over the long haul, than depakote. Less blood work, anyway.

I think Geodon has some built-in antidepressant stuff going on, like reuptake inhibition of...something (not a doc, clearly). Anyway, if you up the dose, you'll get more tranquilizer action, but I would think you might also get more antidepressant stuff, too...add that to Adderall and you can get stimulation. That's my wild *ss guess, anyway.

Trileptal works well for me w/ Abilify. I think many people find it more tolerable than Depakote. I think Trileptal is used for both benzo tapering and anger issues, so...yeah...maybe something to look into. There's a new once daily version that may or may not be what you're after.

Ummm...other than that...there's lamictal. Some people get mood changes under control with antidepressants. Me, Wellbutrin stabilized some of my "moodiness" that was really just shifting depression (if that makes sense). Maybe that's something to consider? I mean...wellbutrin might be more tolerable than an SSRI.

Is lyrica used for neuropathy?

Anyway, good luck to you.

 

Re: Geodon add on? » Sheilac

Posted by SLS on August 8, 2015, at 19:47:41

In reply to Geodon add on?, posted by Sheilac on August 8, 2015, at 9:14:14

> I was experiencing some irritability mania from taking Tramadol. My pdoc pushed my Geodon from 120mg to 160mg.

Both tramadol and Geodon act somewhat like Effexor. Both drugs together might be pushing too much serotonin for you, and is producing mania. Since it is imperative that you continue to take an anti-manic drug like antipsychotics, you might do best to discontinue the tramadol in favor of another opioid or Lyrica. I still like Trileptal for you - or perhaps the newer sister drug, Aptiom (eslicarbazepine) to control your irritability and mania. I know it leaves you feeling somewhat depressed, but you can work on that separately.


- Scott

 

Lou's response-their blood » Phillipa

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 9, 2015, at 5:19:25

In reply to Re: Lou's urgent warning--huzblud » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on August 8, 2015, at 18:30:06

> Lou S*ut Up!!!!! Do you take any of the meds if not then stop now!!!! No one is interested. And do not ask me to explain. P

Friends,
It is written here,[...Lou S*ut up!!!!...No one is interested...].
There could be mothers reading trying so hard to make a decision as to drug their child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor. And it is a powerful influence to children reading here that a psychiatrist is allowing the advocating of the taking of combinations of drugs that could be lethal. They could think that the psychiatrist here is validating the taking of a lethal combination of drugs as being supportive, for the forum is for support and education and that takes precedence and anything without action by Mr. Hsiung means that it is not against his rules and worse, if it is against his rules and he allows it to stand, he does so because in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole for it to be seen that way.
That could influence mothers to go ahead and drug their child with lethal chemicals as they could think that it is supportive. And for anyone here to want to silence me, readers could think that this site wants to keep what I write from mothers to use to make a more-informed decision as to drug their child or not which could contribute to the death of their child by them not knowing from me what the consequences could be from taking these lethal combinations of drugs seen as being supportive here.
This is nothing new to allow posters to overgeneralize and exaggerate to arouse enmity against someone. It is a tactic used in European Fascism that resulted in millions of deaths. The use of this tactic being allowed here could stigmatize me and induce hostile and disagreeable feelings and opinions against me that could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held so that the consequences could be that mothers seeking information could discard what I write and that could result in the death of their child because they went ahead and drugged their child in collaboration with a psychiatrist, thinking that because the psychiatrist here is allowing what Phillipa has posted about me here is supportive.
And worse, because of the allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen here as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, that could along with what Phillipa has posted about me here, create a general acceptance of real-world hate toward the Jews so that a Jewish poster here could be used to mock and taunt and ridicule and debase with impunity and then a subset of readers could have the false sense of superiority induced into them from here as seeing that it is being allowed by Mr. Hsiung for members to post harmful messages about me here to be seen as supportive by him.
Mr. Hsiung writes here that he wants members, by his example of not responding to my notifications, so that others will not respond to me. So now we have the fruits of Mr. Hsiung's influence as Phillipa is advocating with impunity for me to silence myself as the claim of that no one wants to hear what I say is a fact, when it is not.
Readers, as time runs you may see the truth open to you and reject the hate that is allowed to infest the readers of this site to be seen as supportive. I hope that you see this soon, so that your death or the death of your child does not come first. The deaths from here could be prevented IMHO if I was allowed to be seen as an equal member here, but I am denied equal protection of the rules by Mr. Hsiung as he states that he is allowing my notifications to be un acted upon by him and that it will be in his thinking good for his community as a whole for him to do so. There are those that want to silence me. As to the dead from here, their blood will not be upon me
Lou

 

Re: Lou's response-their blood

Posted by rockerchick46 on August 9, 2015, at 6:21:50

In reply to Lou's response-their blood » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 9, 2015, at 5:19:25

I agree with Philipa-S*hut up.
Tammy

 

Re: Geodon add on? » Sheilac

Posted by SLS on August 9, 2015, at 6:47:56

In reply to Geodon add on?, posted by Sheilac on August 8, 2015, at 9:14:14

> > I was experiencing some irritability mania from taking Tramadol. My pdoc pushed my Geodon from 120mg to 160mg.
>
> Both tramadol and Geodon act somewhat like Effexor. Both drugs together might be pushing too much serotonin for you, and is producing mania. Since it is imperative that you continue to take an anti-manic drug like antipsychotics, you might do best to discontinue the tramadol in favor of another opioid or Lyrica. I still like Trileptal for you - or perhaps the newer sister drug, Aptiom (eslicarbazepine) to control your irritability and mania. I know it leaves you feeling somewhat depressed, but you can work on that separately.

It occurs to me that adding Lamictal to either Trileptal or Aptiom would help with the depression. I have seen this combination work well for mixed-states. You could also add Wellbutrin. Some people do experience more anger, irritability, and anxiety with Wellbutrin, but it is often a good antidepressant for bipolar disorder. It is less likely than SRIs to trigger mania.

Believe it or not, Topamax can effectively treat hypomanic mixed-states. Of course, this drug is known for producing memory and cognitive side effects. However, starting at a very low dosage and titrating very gradually can often prevent this from happening. Having done this myself, I found that my memory and cognition were not affected at all.

I don't think that anyone posting here on Psycho-Babble is a practicing psychiatrist. There should be an understanding that recommendations made by posters are really just suggestions meant for one to discuss with their doctor. I personally believe that taking combinations of drugs is perfectly safe and acceptable when administered properly, and is often absolutely necessary for people to feel better and build a life for themselves. High blood pressure and diabetes each often take more than one drug to treat effectively - why not psychiatric disorders? To take the stance that there is no place for polypharmacy in psychiatry is illogical.


- Scott

 

Lou's response-in conceret » rockerchick46

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 9, 2015, at 7:12:04

In reply to Re: Lou's response-their blood, posted by rockerchick46 on August 9, 2015, at 6:21:50

> I agree with Philipa-S*hut up.
> Tammy
Tammy. You wrote here the above.
I am unsure as to why you would want me to shut up. If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly.
True or False: I want you, Lou, to shut up because:
A. You could expose the lies against the Jews that are allowed to be posted here with impunity
B. You could save lives by showing that the advocating of the taking of combinations of drugs could cause death
C. You could prevent children from going on to a life-time of misery by becoming addicted to these drugs advocated here as "medicines".
D. Devil worship could be defined here
E. I know of the Great Deception that you have been writing about here that Mr. Hsiung prohibits you from posting and I do not want you to have readers know that.
F. Since Mr. Hsiung does not respond to you and wants his example to be used so that others also do not respond to you, by me telling you to shut up I could be thought by Mr. Hsiung to be ratifying his actions and be in concert with him by taking this stand against you posting here, being seen by the orchestra leader as being in concert with him and the other members following Mr. Hsiung's example to shun me here even if it a sour note to humanity.
Lou

 

Re: Lou's response-their blood » rockerchick46

Posted by SLS on August 9, 2015, at 7:22:23

In reply to Re: Lou's response-their blood, posted by rockerchick46 on August 9, 2015, at 6:21:50

Hi, Tammy.

> I agree with Philipa-S*hut up.
> Tammy

I know you are offended and frustrated. I understand this. Sometimes, it is better to avoid engagement. Engagement often provokes more uncivil posting by the offending personage.


- Scott

 

Lou's response-phozder » SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 9, 2015, at 10:46:38

In reply to Re: Lou's response-their blood » rockerchick46, posted by SLS on August 9, 2015, at 7:22:23

> Hi, Tammy.
>
> > I agree with Philipa-S*hut up.
> > Tammy
>
> I know you are offended and frustrated. I understand this. Sometimes, it is better to avoid engagement. Engagement often provokes more uncivil posting by the offending personage.
>
>
> - Scott

Scott,
You wrote,[...I know you are offended...it is better to avoid engagement...the offending personage...].
I could be thought to be your subject person here. Please do not post anything that could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
Since there are no examples posted of what you say are statements that could be thought to be from me to be *offending*, then readers could think that just because I requested clarification from the poster about what she wrote, that constitutes something that makes the poster of what I am requesting clarification from to be "offended". I know of no rational reason for anyone to be offended by someone asking for clarification from someone that writes something that has unknown criteria used to make a conclusion to know what constitutes worshiping the devil. And it is conducive to the civic harmony and welfare to ask for that clarification from the poster so that others could also know if they are worshiping the devil according to Tammy's criteria, if known. Who knows what she is using to claim that devil worshipers have particular criteria to conclude such. And if it is revealed, others could be relieved if they see her criteria used to know that they do or do not worship the devil according to her.
I do not see Tammy as being offended by my request to her for identification of what she uses to deem that people do or do not worship the devil. What I do see is someone here that thinks that what I have posted could mean that she worships the devil. And without her revealing what criteria that she uses determine that, a subset of readers could feel offended that she has not posted a reply to me giving me the clarification that I have requested from her. This is because those in that subset could think that she is using evasion to keep readers from knowing what her criteria are. That could arouse suspicion and guilt and shame, which is an unsound mental health practice by Mr. Hsiung allowing Tammy to refuse to answer my request for clarification even though she posted the claim.
But worse, by not posting her criteria used, a subset of readers could think in anti-Semitic terms. They have a rational basis to think that way if they believe the ancient anti-Semitic propaganda fostered by the popular churches for centuries because anti-Semitism is based upon lies about the Jews and one of those lies involves devil worshipping and the Jews and until Tammy lists her criteria, that could be one thought. And since there is anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed to be posted as supportive here and that Mr. Hsiung posts the swastika, ancient anti-Semitic hate IMHO could be fostered here because the criteria are not stated by Tammy as to what constitutes devil worship. I think that Mr. Hsiung has a duty to require Tammy to post her criteria used to determine if someone is worshipping the devil or not and until then I think that Jews could become victims of anti-Semitic violence from reading here as what is supportive by Mr. Hsiung because there are readers that are less-confident readers and could think that anti-Semitism is supportive here because my request to her is left unanswered which deprives me the opportunity to respond to whatever she posts as her criteria used to determine if a person is worshiping the devil.
Lou

 

Re: Geodon add on? » Sheilac

Posted by SLS on August 9, 2015, at 14:41:12

In reply to Geodon add on?, posted by Sheilac on August 8, 2015, at 9:14:14

I hope that you are feeling better today.


- Scott

 

Re: Lou's response-in conceret

Posted by rockerchick46 on August 10, 2015, at 16:18:52

In reply to Lou's response-in conceret » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 9, 2015, at 7:12:04

Lou,
I want you to shut up because you are a pain who tries to divert every discussion into devil worship and anti Semitic behavior when that is not what the people posting on the thread were talking about and no one was talking to you.

You have made repeated requests to me on this and other threads to define devil worship. I am not a church authority on the subject so ask someone who a) knows and b) cares.

Tammy

 

Lou's reply-lazdanz » rockerchick46

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 17:03:27

In reply to Re: Lou's response-in conceret, posted by rockerchick46 on August 10, 2015, at 16:18:52

> Lou,
> I want you to shut up because you are a pain who tries to divert every discussion into devil worship and anti Semitic behavior when that is not what the people posting on the thread were talking about and no one was talking to you.
>
> You have made repeated requests to me on this and other threads to define devil worship. I am not a church authority on the subject so ask someone who a) knows and b) cares.
>
> Tammy

Tamy,
Please do not post anything about me that is false , for that could put me in a false light that could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me.
You wrote,[...no one was taking to you...]. That is a false statement for Phillipa directed her statement to me.
You wrote, [...you are a pain...]. It is a shame that Mr. Hsiung is allowing you to post as me in the image of a pain. That could reduce the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. That could cause the deaths of children by mothers not regarding what I write here and then going ahead and drug their child in collaboration with a psychiatrist that the drugs could cause their death.
You can mock, you can taunt, you can ridicule me here with impunity, but don't forget whose deaths in those thousands each month that are gonna be, so Tammy, save last post for me.
Lou

 

Re: Lou's reply-lazdanz » Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on August 10, 2015, at 17:36:58

In reply to Lou's reply-lazdanz » rockerchick46, posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 17:03:27

Mr. Pilder.

> It is a shame that Mr. Hsiung is allowing you to post...

You know very well that your posting behaviors lie outside the boundaries of civil conduct as described in this website's FAQ.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

You also know that you would be banned from posting on other mental health websites. In fact, you have been banned from posting on Psycho-Babble for years at a time. Your strategies for appearing civil are an easily recognizable facade, but still cannot obscure your exaggerating and overgeneralizing.

* Please show respect for Robert Hsiung, MD and his website - along with its participants.

I believe the idea of pushing for a letter-writing campaign to Dr. Bob might make sense at this point. You have demonstrated that your incivility is intractable.


- Scott

 

Lou's reply-cast stones » SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 19:00:20

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-lazdanz » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on August 10, 2015, at 17:36:58

> Mr. Pilder.
>
> > It is a shame that Mr. Hsiung is allowing you to post...
>
> You know very well that your posting behaviors lie outside the boundaries of civil conduct as described in this website's FAQ.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>
> You also know that you would be banned from posting on other mental health websites. In fact, you have been banned from posting on Psycho-Babble for years at a time. Your strategies for appearing civil are an easily recognizable facade, but still cannot obscure your exaggerating and overgeneralizing.
>
> * Please show respect for Robert Hsiung, MD and his website - along with its participants.
>
> I believe the idea of pushing for a letter-writing campaign to Dr. Bob might make sense at this point. You have demonstrated that your incivility is intractable.
>
>
> - Scott

Friends, be not deceived. The slander against me lives after these posts. The good is interred in the archives. So let it be with Scott. The noble Scott has written that I am disrespectful to Mr. Hsiung and the members. I come to save lives here, not to bury them. I am following all the prohibitions and rules to me here by Mr. Hsiung as humanly possible, even though others are allowed to mock and taunt me and ridicule me here with impunity, having behind them the wind of antisemitic hate being allowed to foster more and more hatred toward me and other Jews, all being allowed by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those in concert with them that decreases the respect of my message here that could IMHO result in readers killing themselves.
Those winds of hate, so vibrantly visible here standing out today as fanning the flames of hatred toward the Jews and me as Jew here, a perpetual flame of hate until stopped by Mr. Hsiung, but he won't. He says that it in his thinking will be good for his community as a whole for antisemitism to be seen here as being supportive. I say not. For the hate being seen as supportive could be turned inward and others could be used as an outlet for murder and the hate could induce suicide. I do not want deaths to come from here from these drugs taken in combination and cause people to suffer a horrible death by them. If I was to turn a blind eye to hate being allowed to be seen as supportive here, those that kill themselves or are killed by the drugs or are victims assassinations in theaters, schools, shopping malls, churches ect by those that the drugs have addicted and the withdrawal is so horrific that death is preferred and they take others with them. The poster Scott accuses me of overgeneralizing. There are thousands of people killed by these drugs each and every month, that is not overgeneralizing, it is IMHO undergeneralizing.
And to you that cast your stones at me here. If you pretend that you just don't see, pull up from the search box at the bottom of this page:
[admin,428781 ]
Lou

 

Lou's reply-cast stones-letter writing campaign

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 5:59:22

In reply to Lou's reply-cast stones » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on August 10, 2015, at 19:00:20

> > Mr. Pilder.
> >
> > > It is a shame that Mr. Hsiung is allowing you to post...
> >
> > You know very well that your posting behaviors lie outside the boundaries of civil conduct as described in this website's FAQ.
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
> >
> > You also know that you would be banned from posting on other mental health websites. In fact, you have been banned from posting on Psycho-Babble for years at a time. Your strategies for appearing civil are an easily recognizable facade, but still cannot obscure your exaggerating and overgeneralizing.
> >
> > * Please show respect for Robert Hsiung, MD and his website - along with its participants.
> >
> > I believe the idea of pushing for a letter-writing campaign to Dr. Bob might make sense at this point. You have demonstrated that your incivility is intractable.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Friends, be not deceived. The slander against me lives after these posts. The good is interred in the archives. So let it be with Scott. The noble Scott has written that I am disrespectful to Mr. Hsiung and the members. I come to save lives here, not to bury them. I am following all the prohibitions and rules to me here by Mr. Hsiung as humanly possible, even though others are allowed to mock and taunt me and ridicule me here with impunity, having behind them the wind of antisemitic hate being allowed to foster more and more hatred toward me and other Jews, all being allowed by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those in concert with them that decreases the respect of my message here that could IMHO result in readers killing themselves.
> Those winds of hate, so vibrantly visible here standing out today as fanning the flames of hatred toward the Jews and me as Jew here, a perpetual flame of hate until stopped by Mr. Hsiung, but he won't. He says that it in his thinking will be good for his community as a whole for antisemitism to be seen here as being supportive. I say not. For the hate being seen as supportive could be turned inward and others could be used as an outlet for murder and the hate could induce suicide. I do not want deaths to come from here from these drugs taken in combination and cause people to suffer a horrible death by them. If I was to turn a blind eye to hate being allowed to be seen as supportive here, those that kill themselves or are killed by the drugs or are victims assassinations in theaters, schools, shopping malls, churches ect by those that the drugs have addicted and the withdrawal is so horrific that death is preferred and they take others with them. The poster Scott accuses me of overgeneralizing. There are thousands of people killed by these drugs each and every month, that is not overgeneralizing, it is IMHO undergeneralizing.
> And to you that cast your stones at me here. If you pretend that you just don't see, pull up from the search box at the bottom of this page:
> [admin,428781 ]
> Lou
>
Friends,
Scott has accused me here of overgeneralizing and exaggerating as his basis for claiming that I am disrespectful to Mr. Hsiung and the members here. But is his accusation against me true? Or is it a transparent attempt to arouse hatred toward me? Or is it even something worse?
Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people as he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved. This is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be posted here by Scott which is disrespectful to Judaism and Jews and all others that are not members of Christiandom. In fact, it is disrespectful to humanity itself to be allowed to be seen here as supportive by Mr. Hsiung where it is originally posted, for Mr. Hsiung states that being supportive takes precedence here and that statements standing by him are not against his rules.
Scott's accusations against me here are cruel and reflect Mr. Hsiung's and this membership's attitude toward Jews fostered by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record allowing Scott a platform to defame Jews while prohibiting me from posting my own repudiation to the slander of the Jews as I need to do. The insult to Jews allowed to be seen here as civil by Mr. Hsiung, disrespects the membership IMHO, not that I object to Mr. Hsiung allowing anti-Semitic hate to be seen here as being supportive.
Scott's call for a campaign aginst me here which could arouse ill-will toward me here, which I think disrespects the membership and Mr. Hsiung. This is a tactic used in European Fascism that was put to death many years ago. To allow a resurrection of this type of hate in a mental health community disrespects the membership for it implies that the membership is so stupid that they could be swayed by Scott to go along with him to "push for a letter writing campaign" against me.
The letter's content is not specified by Scott.
Tell me Scott, what do you want to collect from members here that will be in your letter and who will it be sent to?
Lou

 

Letter writing campaign.

Posted by SLS on August 11, 2015, at 7:29:26

In reply to Lou's reply-cast stones-letter writing campaign, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 5:59:22

bob@dr-bob.org


- Scott

 

Letter writing campaign. » Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on August 11, 2015, at 7:38:12

In reply to Lou's reply-cast stones-letter writing campaign, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 5:59:22

Mr. Pilder.

> Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people as he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved. This is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be posted here by Scott which is disrespectful to Judaism and Jews and all others that are not members of Christiandom.

Please do not accuse me of these things. They are not true. I feel that your posts about me are an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others.

bob@dr-bob.org


- Scott

 

Lous reply-rvrineejyp » SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 7:57:40

In reply to Letter writing campaign. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on August 11, 2015, at 7:38:12

> Mr. Pilder.
>
> > Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people as he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved. This is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be posted here by Scott which is disrespectful to Judaism and Jews and all others that are not members of Christiandom.
>
> Please do not accuse me of these things. They are not true. I feel that your posts about me are an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others.
>
> bob@dr-bob.org
>
>
> - Scott

Scott,
You wrote that it is not true that you posted here to me that I need o convert to Christianity to be saved.
Here is your post
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
Friends,
It is plainly visible by Scott's post that Jews are being disrespected here by him and Mr. Hsiung for allowing it to be seen as civil where it is originally posted. This could orchestrate what could be seen by a subset of Jews is really a pathology of hatred toward the Jews all condoned by a psychiatrist that uses the members to create and develop antisemitic hate here as he says that he does in his thing what will be good for his community as a whole. That is the argument used by European Fascists to justify genocide.
Lou

 

Read More Carefully)) Lou Pilder

Posted by rockerchick46 on August 11, 2015, at 8:03:37

In reply to Lous reply-rvrineejyp » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 7:57:40

He did NOT say that!! Don't put words in other people's mouths

 

Lou's reply-izwhatitiz

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 8:27:30

In reply to Read More Carefully)) Lou Pilder, posted by rockerchick46 on August 11, 2015, at 8:03:37

> He did NOT say that!! Don't put words in other people's mouths

rc,
You wrote that Scott did not say that. It is plainly visible that he did.
If you can not see the subject line by Scott that reads:
[Convert Lou PIlder]
and then;
[...save yourself first..Jewish people convert to Christianity ...]
Then are you wanting to mean that what he wrote was not what he wrote? He wrote what he wrote and it says what it says. It is what it is.
Lou

 

My apologies for my use of sarcasm. » Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on August 11, 2015, at 9:11:38

In reply to Lous reply-rvrineejyp » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 7:57:40

> > > Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people as he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved. This is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be posted here by Scott which is disrespectful to Judaism and Jews and all others that are not members of Christiandom.

> > Please do not accuse me of these things. They are not true. I feel that your posts about me are an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others.

> Scott,
> You wrote that it is not true that you posted here to me that I need o convert to Christianity to be saved.
> Here is your post
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html

Good work.

Unfortunately, the sarcasm in my words is lost without being read within the context of your previous posts regarding the Christian savior and saving. Nevertheless, sarcasm is considered to be uncivil on Psycho-Babble, and I apologize.

I have NEVER said that:

> Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people

You take my words and overgeneralize them in order to portray them as being something they are not. You cannot read my mind. Therefore, you cannot know if I consider you or your religion to be inferior. Please retract that statement.

> he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved.

I made no such "claim", so please retract that statement.

Please do not accuse me of considering Jews to be inferior to Christians. I feel that this is an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others - especially Jews.

bob@dr-bob.org


- Scott

 

Lou's reply-ancient hate » SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 10:07:12

In reply to My apologies for my use of sarcasm. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on August 11, 2015, at 9:11:38

> > > > Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people as he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved. This is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be posted here by Scott which is disrespectful to Judaism and Jews and all others that are not members of Christiandom.
>
> > > Please do not accuse me of these things. They are not true. I feel that your posts about me are an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others.
>
> > Scott,
> > You wrote that it is not true that you posted here to me that I need o convert to Christianity to be saved.
> > Here is your post
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
>
> Good work.
>
> Unfortunately, the sarcasm in my words is lost without being read within the context of your previous posts regarding the Christian savior and saving. Nevertheless, sarcasm is considered to be uncivil on Psycho-Babble, and I apologize.
>
> I have NEVER said that:
>
> > Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people
>
> You take my words and overgeneralize them in order to portray them as being something they are not. You cannot read my mind. Therefore, you cannot know if I consider you or your religion to be inferior. Please retract that statement.
>
> > he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved.
>
> I made no such "claim", so please retract that statement.
>
> Please do not accuse me of considering Jews to be inferior to Christians. I feel that this is an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others - especially Jews.
>
> bob@dr-bob.org
>
>
> - Scott
>
Scott,
You wrote that you never said that. What you said is what you said. Let us look at it again:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
Now your subject line says that I should convert
In fact, the grammatical structure leaves no doubt to that. It is a plain directive to me from you that reads:
Convert>>Lou Pilder
As to what is to be converted to and as to what needs to be converted is then stated by you:
Jewish people convert to Christianity all the time and:[...save yourself first by doing so...]is plainly visible in your post to me here.
This means that others could think that you think that Jews are inferior people as being a Jew as not being saved and that Chrsitians are superior because they are saved people and that for a Jew to be saved they have to convert to Christianity.
This is nothing new, for it is the foundation of anti-Semitism and along with you posting that what I post here challenges the health of the community, which parallels the ancient antisemitic lie against the Jews called poisoning the well, is not sarcasm but defamation of he Jews. For to say that Jews have to convert to Christianity to be saved, insults Judaism itself and is disrespectful to their religion as claiming that Judaism is a faith that has no way for the Jews to be saved as being in Judaism because your statement to save yourself first, jumps to the conclusion that Judaism is a faith that can not save, an convert to Christianity which you say can save. The whole idea of not putting down another faith or putting down someone for having their faith, is to not post comparisons where one religion is superior to another religion. Judaism can save and Jews do not have to convert to Christianity to be saved contrary to what you tell me to do here. The ancient lie against the Jews that they are not saved and have to be converted to Christianity to be saved, is being perpetuated here by you and Mr. Hsiung in concert with each other by him allowing you to post anti-Semitic propaganda here with impunity. He even tries to justify what you wrote by using a false statement and failed. He later admits that your statement is uncivil, but refuses to post that where you originally posted it which allows readers to think that Mr. Hsiung is ratifying the hate which could further create and develop anti-Semitic thought here to be a perpetual flame of hate.
I can not stop both of you from being in concert here to defame the Jews and me a Jew here. If you could post something like the following, it could go a long way in helping you.
Readers be aware.
I have posted what could be taken as anti-Semitic propaganda here in telling Lou Pilder to convert to Christianity to be saved. And Mr. Hsiung has allowed it even though he knows it to be against his rules. This is a terrible thing to do.
"Scott"
Lou

 

Shame, shame on you , Lou » Lou Pilder

Posted by 10derheart on August 11, 2015, at 14:16:10

In reply to Lou's reply-ancient hate » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 10:07:12

You know damn well that was sarcasm in Scott's 2013 post and you know damn well the context of that thread.

I only feel badly for the posters engaging you now in an attempt to reason with the chronically unreasonable. They are wasting their time and energy.

Do you ever do anything constructive IRL to fight for the rights of humans? Or does it all take place here in your mind?

 

There is no anti-semitism on PBabble (nm) » Lou Pilder

Posted by herpills on August 11, 2015, at 14:56:05

In reply to Lou's reply-ancient hate » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 10:07:12

 

Re: Geodon add on? » Sheilac

Posted by phidippus on August 11, 2015, at 18:21:59

In reply to Geodon add on?, posted by Sheilac on August 8, 2015, at 9:14:14

I don't think you failed the depakote-you were simply not on enough (500 mg) and I think you were having breakthrough manic symptoms.

Geodon can be activating for some people-remember it is a light SNRI.

Trileptal isn't really used for neuropathy, but if it helps with your mood, by all means take it.

What happens when you take 1200 mg of Trileptal?

Eric

 

Lou's request-Scott's justification » SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on August 11, 2015, at 18:49:31

In reply to My apologies for my use of sarcasm. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on August 11, 2015, at 9:11:38

> > > > Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people as he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved. This is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be posted here by Scott which is disrespectful to Judaism and Jews and all others that are not members of Christiandom.
>
> > > Please do not accuse me of these things. They are not true. I feel that your posts about me are an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others.
>
> > Scott,
> > You wrote that it is not true that you posted here to me that I need o convert to Christianity to be saved.
> > Here is your post
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
>
> Good work.
>
> Unfortunately, the sarcasm in my words is lost without being read within the context of your previous posts regarding the Christian savior and saving. Nevertheless, sarcasm is considered to be uncivil on Psycho-Babble, and I apologize.
>
> I have NEVER said that:
>
> > Scott considers me as a Jew inferior to Christiandom people
>
> You take my words and overgeneralize them in order to portray them as being something they are not. You cannot read my mind. Therefore, you cannot know if I consider you or your religion to be inferior. Please retract that statement.
>
> > he claims that I am unsaved as a Jew and need to convert to Christianity to be saved.
>
> I made no such "claim", so please retract that statement.
>
> Please do not accuse me of considering Jews to be inferior to Christians. I feel that this is an attempt to put me down in the eyes of others - especially Jews.
>
> bob@dr-bob.org
>
>
> - Scott
>
Scott,
What is the previous post that you refer to here that is regarding the Christian savior and saving?
Lou


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