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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 24 of 24. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2015, at 9:29:42
I come here less and less as was fine till found this site and got caught up listening to people talk about meds. But honestly expected this site to be gone on January l. So who is running the site or paying for it. Just curious. And no not posting on admin why? No one is there. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 10:10:53
In reply to Is Anyone Running Babble Now?, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2015, at 9:29:42
> I come here less and less as was fine till found this site and got caught up listening to people talk about meds. But honestly expected this site to be gone on January l. So who is running the site or paying for it. Just curious. And no not posting on admin why? No one is there. Phillipa
P,
You wrote,[...not posting on admin why...].
The answer to your question could arouse speculation by readers to attempt to use what is plainly visible on admin to come up with some explanation to satisfy what can be seen.
The issue ongoing until Mr. Hsiung stopped responding to me was what I see as harm that come to Jews in particular, but not limited to, as a result of anti-Semitic statements and anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation against me that could be seen as supportive and that will be good for the community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to keep the hatred toward the Jews depicted in those statements to remain to be considered to be civil by Mr. Hsiung and any deputy of his of record.
The last exchanges between me and Mr. Hsiung involved my request for him to open up two posts that offer links to anti-Semitic propaganda that can be seen as being supportive by the nature that the policy here is that support takes precedence and that posters are to be civil at all times and there could be a subset of readers that do not see that the policy that could protect Jews and others if harmful statements were sanctioned, to ever have been rescinded and that Mr. Hsiung's TOS has not been changed to remove that fairness and The Golden Rule in moderating this site's content.
As long as the links to Matt 25 and John 5 that have anti-Semitic propaganda that could be seen as supportive here, and other posts with anti-Semitic content, then there is the potential for harm to come to Jews based on the historical record where when members of a community see antisemitic propaganda to be considered to be state-sponsored, then they could think that the equal protection of the laws of that community do not apply to Jews and that then Jews could be stigmatized and be seen as inferior people in the thinking, as of here, Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record. By not responding to my requests and notifications, a subset of readers that understands how the tactic of evasion works that could allow readers to entertain in their minds false conclusions, Jews IMHO could suffer permanent damage and even kill themselves as coming to this site in depression and seeing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive and will be good for this community as a whole according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking for the hatred toward the Jews depicted in those statements to remain to be seen as supportive here.
As to speculating as to the motive, if any, of Mr. Hsiung not responding to my notifications and requests to him, the results still go on and on regardless as to if he does or does not have an excuse to not respond to me here and as to if the intent of what Mr. Hsiung is doing here is to have harm come to me and Jews. Intent can be either expressed or implied.
Lou
Posted by Twinleaf on January 3, 2015, at 10:50:54
In reply to Is Anyone Running Babble Now?, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2015, at 9:29:42
In practical and emotional terms, I would have to say no. Bob's repeated appearances and disappearances give an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty. It shows me how important a reliable "father- figure" is to this site (or any site). We don't need a lot of interaction, just a moderate to minimal amount of support, understanding and fair treatment that we can count on. That would have reinforced everyone's innate desire for improved health and a greater degree of trust in society. I think we do have to recognize that he has had some very harsh, unfair things said to him here in anger, but I still do think that it is reasonable to expect a leader to work things through and offer minimal but reliable leadership. Otherwise, the site itself becomes an additional source of stress in people's lives. I believe this is what has happened here, sadly.
Posted by SLS on January 3, 2015, at 11:07:24
In reply to Re: Is Anyone Running Babble Now?, posted by Twinleaf on January 3, 2015, at 10:50:54
> In practical and emotional terms, I would have to say no. Bob's repeated appearances and disappearances give an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty. It shows me how important a reliable "father- figure" is to this site (or any site). We don't need a lot of interaction, just a moderate to minimal amount of support, understanding and fair treatment that we can count on. That would have reinforced everyone's innate desire for improved health and a greater degree of trust in society. I think we do have to recognize that he has had some very harsh, unfair things said to him here in anger, but I still do think that it is reasonable to expect a leader to work things through and offer minimal but reliable leadership. Otherwise, the site itself becomes an additional source of stress in people's lives. I believe this is what has happened here, sadly.
I must guess that Dr. Bob acted to delete a few posts here yesterday. I think the poster had posted while being blocked under another name. I'm sure that Dr. Bob will begin posting again. It might be worth the wait.
- Scott
Posted by 10derheart on January 3, 2015, at 12:51:18
In reply to Re: Is Anyone Running Babble Now? » Twinleaf, posted by SLS on January 3, 2015, at 11:07:24
I agree. I see his hand when things on the boards change, redirects, deletions. Sometimes, that's all we see. Same thing, different year. Not much changes. It's a cycle. It has all happened repeatedly before.
It's the holiday season. Dr. Bob may have other things consuming his time. Overall, he wants Babble to run itself, clearly. We may or may not agree.
Babble is us.
p.s. - Happy New Year, Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 14:50:22
In reply to Re: Is Anyone Running Babble Now?, posted by Twinleaf on January 3, 2015, at 10:50:54
> In practical and emotional terms, I would have to say no. Bob's repeated appearances and disappearances give an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty. It shows me how important a reliable "father- figure" is to this site (or any site). We don't need a lot of interaction, just a moderate to minimal amount of support, understanding and fair treatment that we can count on. That would have reinforced everyone's innate desire for improved health and a greater degree of trust in society. I think we do have to recognize that he has had some very harsh, unfair things said to him here in anger, but I still do think that it is reasonable to expect a leader to work things through and offer minimal but reliable leadership. Otherwise, the site itself becomes an additional source of stress in people's lives. I believe this is what has happened here, sadly.
Tl,
You wrote,[...an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty...fair treatment we can count on...desire for improved health...the site becomes an additional source of stress...sadly...].
When a site such as this is seen by a subset of readers such as yourself that you describe as potentially threatens the well-being and safety of people, that could mean that the site could be crossing the line into the world of {bullying} which poses a challenge to those that could be victims of the bullying.
Bullying is aggressive antagonistic behavior where there is an imbalance of power so that the victim of bullying is seen as weaker and vulnerable to the bully. Bullying can be emotional where emotional distress is inflicted upon the victims of the bully by discrimination and racism and other forms of stigmatization or defamation by the bully. The access to the internet can lead to this type of bullying where impressionable readers are persuaded that bullying is supportive by an authority figure. This can lead to anti-Semitic attacks against Jews if anti-Semitism could be seen as supportive, anti transgender attacks where anti transgender statements could be seen as supportive where there was just a recent suicide here by a transgender teenager that received these type of bullying messages and stepped into a moving semi on the expressway. You may read the suicide note online.
The courts look generally to see if the bully is intending to humiliate the victims of the bully. This, generally, is plainly visible, but sometimes not. For the bully can always set up a pretext to justify the bullying, regardless if innocent victims are led to their deaths by the bullying, either by their own suicide, or others attacking the bully's victims.
I intend to reveal more concerning this unless the 3 consecutive post rule applies so that you can make your own determination as to if Twinleaf's statements here have credibility or not.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 15:44:08
In reply to Lou's response-anthrvoyce » Twinleaf, posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 14:50:22
> > In practical and emotional terms, I would have to say no. Bob's repeated appearances and disappearances give an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty. It shows me how important a reliable "father- figure" is to this site (or any site). We don't need a lot of interaction, just a moderate to minimal amount of support, understanding and fair treatment that we can count on. That would have reinforced everyone's innate desire for improved health and a greater degree of trust in society. I think we do have to recognize that he has had some very harsh, unfair things said to him here in anger, but I still do think that it is reasonable to expect a leader to work things through and offer minimal but reliable leadership. Otherwise, the site itself becomes an additional source of stress in people's lives. I believe this is what has happened here, sadly.
>
> Tl,
> You wrote,[...an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty...fair treatment we can count on...desire for improved health...the site becomes an additional source of stress...sadly...].
> When a site such as this is seen by a subset of readers such as yourself that you describe as potentially threatens the well-being and safety of people, that could mean that the site could be crossing the line into the world of {bullying} which poses a challenge to those that could be victims of the bullying.
> Bullying is aggressive antagonistic behavior where there is an imbalance of power so that the victim of bullying is seen as weaker and vulnerable to the bully. Bullying can be emotional where emotional distress is inflicted upon the victims of the bully by discrimination and racism and other forms of stigmatization or defamation by the bully. The access to the internet can lead to this type of bullying where impressionable readers are persuaded that bullying is supportive by an authority figure. This can lead to anti-Semitic attacks against Jews if anti-Semitism could be seen as supportive, anti transgender attacks where anti transgender statements could be seen as supportive where there was just a recent suicide here by a transgender teenager that received these type of bullying messages and stepped into a moving semi on the expressway. You may read the suicide note online.
> The courts look generally to see if the bully is intending to humiliate the victims of the bully. This, generally, is plainly visible, but sometimes not. For the bully can always set up a pretext to justify the bullying, regardless if innocent victims are led to their deaths by the bullying, either by their own suicide, or others attacking the bully's victims.
> I intend to reveal more concerning this unless the 3 consecutive post rule applies so that you can make your own determination as to if Twinleaf's statements here have credibility or not.
> Lou
>
Friends,
The recent suicide where I live of a transgender teenager resulted from messages received concerning the teenager being transgender. The messages came from outside the internet, but the messages created the suicide. It is the message, not the medium that counts. And these type of messages can come from the internet easily now. And they can induce suicide just as much if the messages came from a parent or a religious authority that holds others as inferior.
I am here to have repudiations posted to any statement here that can be considered to be supportive that defames anyone, be it by defaming their religion or anything else. This is one way that I can save lives, by stopping what could cause a reader here to kill themselves. Another way that I can save lives is in what Twinleaf posted here. You see, she sees that a source of stress, sadly, could come from here. That source of stress can IMHO induce suicidal thoughts in some readers here and being on mind-altering drugs could have those people exponentially feeling suicidal thoughts if they could think that they are being portrayed as inferior human beings here. This inferiority could be induced in many ways. One way can be seen in the discussion that I am having with Mr. Hsiung on the admin board as posts that directly portray some as inferior and then also indirectly. Twinleaf brings up some of the indirect ways that I am responding to here.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 16:19:21
In reply to Lou's response-anthrvoyce-clarifiction-lelah, posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 15:44:08
> > > In practical and emotional terms, I would have to say no. Bob's repeated appearances and disappearances give an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty. It shows me how important a reliable "father- figure" is to this site (or any site). We don't need a lot of interaction, just a moderate to minimal amount of support, understanding and fair treatment that we can count on. That would have reinforced everyone's innate desire for improved health and a greater degree of trust in society. I think we do have to recognize that he has had some very harsh, unfair things said to him here in anger, but I still do think that it is reasonable to expect a leader to work things through and offer minimal but reliable leadership. Otherwise, the site itself becomes an additional source of stress in people's lives. I believe this is what has happened here, sadly.
> >
> > Tl,
> > You wrote,[...an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty...fair treatment we can count on...desire for improved health...the site becomes an additional source of stress...sadly...].
> > When a site such as this is seen by a subset of readers such as yourself that you describe as potentially threatens the well-being and safety of people, that could mean that the site could be crossing the line into the world of {bullying} which poses a challenge to those that could be victims of the bullying.
> > Bullying is aggressive antagonistic behavior where there is an imbalance of power so that the victim of bullying is seen as weaker and vulnerable to the bully. Bullying can be emotional where emotional distress is inflicted upon the victims of the bully by discrimination and racism and other forms of stigmatization or defamation by the bully. The access to the internet can lead to this type of bullying where impressionable readers are persuaded that bullying is supportive by an authority figure. This can lead to anti-Semitic attacks against Jews if anti-Semitism could be seen as supportive, anti transgender attacks where anti transgender statements could be seen as supportive where there was just a recent suicide here by a transgender teenager that received these type of bullying messages and stepped into a moving semi on the expressway. You may read the suicide note online.
> > The courts look generally to see if the bully is intending to humiliate the victims of the bully. This, generally, is plainly visible, but sometimes not. For the bully can always set up a pretext to justify the bullying, regardless if innocent victims are led to their deaths by the bullying, either by their own suicide, or others attacking the bully's victims.
> > I intend to reveal more concerning this unless the 3 consecutive post rule applies so that you can make your own determination as to if Twinleaf's statements here have credibility or not.
> > Lou
> >
> Friends,
> The recent suicide where I live of a transgender teenager resulted from messages received concerning the teenager being transgender. The messages came from outside the internet, but the messages created the suicide. It is the message, not the medium that counts. And these type of messages can come from the internet easily now. And they can induce suicide just as much if the messages came from a parent or a religious authority that holds others as inferior.
> I am here to have repudiations posted to any statement here that can be considered to be supportive that defames anyone, be it by defaming their religion or anything else. This is one way that I can save lives, by stopping what could cause a reader here to kill themselves. Another way that I can save lives is in what Twinleaf posted here. You see, she sees that a source of stress, sadly, could come from here. That source of stress can IMHO induce suicidal thoughts in some readers here and being on mind-altering drugs could have those people exponentially feeling suicidal thoughts if they could think that they are being portrayed as inferior human beings here. This inferiority could be induced in many ways. One way can be seen in the discussion that I am having with Mr. Hsiung on the admin board as posts that directly portray some as inferior and then also indirectly. Twinleaf brings up some of the indirect ways that I am responding to here.
> Lou
>
> Friends,
Tl has brought her insight to you here. A source of stress can be IMHO a source of death. And as long as hatred toward the Jews can be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be seen that way, then
what Tl posts here can help all to save lives here.
You see, posts here that could be considered to be supportive and could depict others as inferior, could induce suicidal thoughts in the ones depicted as inferior. Posts can be considered to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking if statements depicting another or even groups of people, are depicted as inferior and standing. This could be further exacerbating if the reader sees that Mr. Hsiung is denying my request to post a repudiation to the anti-Semitic propaganda
Now let us consider a hypothetical case where a Jewish teenager is reading here and sees this as being supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, since the post stands and a subset of readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil here.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428781.html
Now I ask if you could think that if a Jewish teenager read that here and was in depression, could the fact that the statements could be read as supportive be what could cause the reader to kill themselves as feeling inferior as to how the Jews are portrayed in the post.
Lou
Posted by herpills on January 3, 2015, at 18:38:37
In reply to Lou's response-mmhaliz » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 10:10:53
> > I come here less and less as was fine till found this site and got caught up listening to people talk about meds. But honestly expected this site to be gone on January l. So who is running the site or paying for it. Just curious. And no not posting on admin why? No one is there. Phillipa
>
> P,
> You wrote,[...not posting on admin why...].
> The answer to your question could arouse speculation by readers...>
Isn't it up to the individual to decide what was or was not the meaning of the original poster? Can we not speculate on our own without you insisting on some sort of clarification?You typically respond to posts stating that you are "unsure what you are wanting others to think"
How about the people who read the posts decide what the original poster is saying or not saying?
Frankly, I find it insulting that you think that other posters here don't posses enough intelligence to make up their own minds as to what someone is or is not trying to say. herpills
Posted by cadett on January 3, 2015, at 18:46:49
In reply to Re: Lou's response-mmhaliz » Lou Pilder, posted by herpills on January 3, 2015, at 18:38:37
Can anyone recommend another site that is helpful?
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 19:11:38
In reply to Lou's response-anthrvoyce-psyburbull, posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 16:19:21
> > > > In practical and emotional terms, I would have to say no. Bob's repeated appearances and disappearances give an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty. It shows me how important a reliable "father- figure" is to this site (or any site). We don't need a lot of interaction, just a moderate to minimal amount of support, understanding and fair treatment that we can count on. That would have reinforced everyone's innate desire for improved health and a greater degree of trust in society. I think we do have to recognize that he has had some very harsh, unfair things said to him here in anger, but I still do think that it is reasonable to expect a leader to work things through and offer minimal but reliable leadership. Otherwise, the site itself becomes an additional source of stress in people's lives. I believe this is what has happened here, sadly.
> > >
> > > Tl,
> > > You wrote,[...an overall feeling of instability and uncertainty...fair treatment we can count on...desire for improved health...the site becomes an additional source of stress...sadly...].
> > > When a site such as this is seen by a subset of readers such as yourself that you describe as potentially threatens the well-being and safety of people, that could mean that the site could be crossing the line into the world of {bullying} which poses a challenge to those that could be victims of the bullying.
> > > Bullying is aggressive antagonistic behavior where there is an imbalance of power so that the victim of bullying is seen as weaker and vulnerable to the bully. Bullying can be emotional where emotional distress is inflicted upon the victims of the bully by discrimination and racism and other forms of stigmatization or defamation by the bully. The access to the internet can lead to this type of bullying where impressionable readers are persuaded that bullying is supportive by an authority figure. This can lead to anti-Semitic attacks against Jews if anti-Semitism could be seen as supportive, anti transgender attacks where anti transgender statements could be seen as supportive where there was just a recent suicide here by a transgender teenager that received these type of bullying messages and stepped into a moving semi on the expressway. You may read the suicide note online.
> > > The courts look generally to see if the bully is intending to humiliate the victims of the bully. This, generally, is plainly visible, but sometimes not. For the bully can always set up a pretext to justify the bullying, regardless if innocent victims are led to their deaths by the bullying, either by their own suicide, or others attacking the bully's victims.
> > > I intend to reveal more concerning this unless the 3 consecutive post rule applies so that you can make your own determination as to if Twinleaf's statements here have credibility or not.
> > > Lou
> > >
> > Friends,
> > The recent suicide where I live of a transgender teenager resulted from messages received concerning the teenager being transgender. The messages came from outside the internet, but the messages created the suicide. It is the message, not the medium that counts. And these type of messages can come from the internet easily now. And they can induce suicide just as much if the messages came from a parent or a religious authority that holds others as inferior.
> > I am here to have repudiations posted to any statement here that can be considered to be supportive that defames anyone, be it by defaming their religion or anything else. This is one way that I can save lives, by stopping what could cause a reader here to kill themselves. Another way that I can save lives is in what Twinleaf posted here. You see, she sees that a source of stress, sadly, could come from here. That source of stress can IMHO induce suicidal thoughts in some readers here and being on mind-altering drugs could have those people exponentially feeling suicidal thoughts if they could think that they are being portrayed as inferior human beings here. This inferiority could be induced in many ways. One way can be seen in the discussion that I am having with Mr. Hsiung on the admin board as posts that directly portray some as inferior and then also indirectly. Twinleaf brings up some of the indirect ways that I am responding to here.
> > Lou
> >
> > Friends,
> Tl has brought her insight to you here. A source of stress can be IMHO a source of death. And as long as hatred toward the Jews can be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking to be seen that way, then
> what Tl posts here can help all to save lives here.
> You see, posts here that could be considered to be supportive and could depict others as inferior, could induce suicidal thoughts in the ones depicted as inferior. Posts can be considered to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking if statements depicting another or even groups of people, are depicted as inferior and standing. This could be further exacerbating if the reader sees that Mr. Hsiung is denying my request to post a repudiation to the anti-Semitic propaganda
> Now let us consider a hypothetical case where a Jewish teenager is reading here and sees this as being supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, since the post stands and a subset of readers could think that unsanctioned posts are civil here.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428781.html
> Now I ask if you could think that if a Jewish teenager read that here and was in depression, could the fact that the statements could be read as supportive be what could cause the reader to kill themselves as feeling inferior as to how the Jews are portrayed in the post.
> Lou
> Friends, I apologize for posting the link here in its entirety. I forgot to use my usual format of listing the board and the post number.
Lou
>
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 19:26:08
In reply to Re: Lou's response-mmhaliz » Lou Pilder, posted by herpills on January 3, 2015, at 18:38:37
> > > I come here less and less as was fine till found this site and got caught up listening to people talk about meds. But honestly expected this site to be gone on January l. So who is running the site or paying for it. Just curious. And no not posting on admin why? No one is there. Phillipa
> >
> > P,
> > You wrote,[...not posting on admin why...].
> > The answer to your question could arouse speculation by readers...>
>
>
> Isn't it up to the individual to decide what was or was not the meaning of the original poster? Can we not speculate on our own without you insisting on some sort of clarification?
>
> You typically respond to posts stating that you are "unsure what you are wanting others to think"
>
> How about the people who read the posts decide what the original poster is saying or not saying?
>
> Frankly, I find it insulting that you think that other posters here don't posses enough intelligence to make up their own minds as to what someone is or is not trying to say. herpills
> herpills,
You wrote,[...you think that other posters here (redacted by respondent) as to what someone is or is not trying to say...].
Sometimes I am unsure as to what a poster wants others to think by what they wrote. And if the poster responds to my request with clarification to resolve the matter, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly. This is because in my thinking , I would need to jump to a conclusion if I did not get the clarification requested. That does not mean that others could conclude by what is on the face of the statement. Sometimes statements could be ambiguous to me or just lacking in what I need to know in order to make a conclusion and I do not want to assume a conclusion that could be false.
As far as the clarification not coming, I can not respond accordingly, but others that think that they know what the intent of a poster is as to what they want readers to think by what they wrote can do so, But what if they are wrong?
Lou
>
Posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2015, at 19:57:54
In reply to Lou's response-jmpjmp, posted by Lou Pilder on January 3, 2015, at 19:26:08
First of all it stresses me not at all that someone runs the site. i just use the google bar and look at any new posts if they exist. Maybe Lou a warning to Jews should be posted that they might find this site antisemetic, and it could cause them to kill themselves.
Which I and others know is seriously ridiculous as many posters are of the Jewish Faith. I guess I must be alive cause I am not Jewish is this what you are meaning?
Posted by obsidian on January 3, 2015, at 23:53:09
In reply to Re: Lou's response-mmhaliz, posted by cadett on January 3, 2015, at 18:46:49
Maybe psychcentral? Or crazymeds?
Posted by SLS on January 4, 2015, at 7:51:13
In reply to Re: Lou's response-mmhaliz » cadett, posted by obsidian on January 3, 2015, at 23:53:09
> Maybe psychcentral? Or crazymeds?
Those are the only two I know of. They seem to be well-behaved and support a knowledgeable membership.
I find their interface format bulky by comparison to the "archaic" but accessible scripts found on Psycho-Babble.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2015, at 15:39:02
In reply to Re: Lou's response-jmpjmp » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2015, at 19:57:54
> First of all it stresses me not at all that someone runs the site. i just use the google bar and look at any new posts if they exist. Maybe Lou a warning to Jews should be posted that they might find this site antisemetic, and it could cause them to kill themselves.
>
> Which I and others know is seriously ridiculous as many posters are of the Jewish Faith. I guess I must be alive cause I am not Jewish is this what you are meaning?
>
> P,
You wrote,[...could cause them to kill themselves... What I and others know...is this what you are meaning...].
What is known is that there is a continual body of evidence showing how suicide could be induced from sites such as this. The mechanism that is known is that humiliation comes to the suicidal person from statements made on the sites that are allowed to stand. These statements are of the nature that they humiliate or ridicule and attack the target person into leading them to feel inferior and that drives the target person into a vortex of downward depression that may have already been in the person seeking to come out of it by entering the site as being lured by thinking that the site coud be of help to them. Many of these sites do not allow humiliation and ridicule and defamation and racism to stand by removing those type of posts or the owner/moderator/operator posts a sanction to them. The law in the U.S. allows the owner of these sites to allow 3erd party posts to defame with the owner given immunity (unless the owner creates or develops the defamation). There are other countries that do hold the operators liable for 3erd party posts as either negligence from not sanctioning those type of posts or refusing to post a repudiation to the statements that, let's say, insult Islam. There are also laws against insulting Judaism in Israel. You can look these up as using {blasphemy}and those laws for individual countries.
In this site, the owner claims in his TOS that the site is for support and fairness and the Golden Rule being applied. That could give an expectation for Jewish people to think that Judaism will not be allowed to be insulted, made to be portrayed as inferior to Christianity, or anything else that could lead a Jew to feel that their faith is being put down/accused. He further states that being supportive takes precedence and that he does not wait to sanction a statement that puts down/accuses because one match could star a forest fire. And further, he states that if a statement is not sanctioned, it could be considered to be not against his rules. He has not revised his TOS/FAQ to change any of that so that readers that read the FAQ/TOS see that one is not to post anything that could lead one to feel put down or accused and to be sensitive to other's feelings and not post vulgar words or phrases and such as can be seen in the FAQ. Those that take Mr. Hsiung at his word could feel deceived if statements that humiliate them are seen as being supportive because being supportive takes precedence here according to what Mr. Hsiung has posted here. This feeling of being deceived could cause the hope that, let's say, a Jewish teenager in depression coming out of it to be cast down in worse depression and the hope that they may have had could be taken away by the humiliation of, let's say, that the Jewish teenager sees that anti-Semitic propaganda can be seen as supportive and worse, that it will be goof for this community as a whole according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking. This "good" has a historical significance that could cause a Jewish person to feel humiliated in that this site has anti-Semitic propaganda able to be seen as supportive and that on the admin board the excuse or reason to be seen as supportive is that the owner's thinking is that it will be good for this community as a whole. This could outrage some readers that have an understanding of European fascism.
There may be Jewish members here that turn a blind eye to the anti-Semitic propaganda that could be seen here as being supportive, but there could be other Jews that left here because of that. But be it as it may be, there could be Jewish readers that could feel humiliation here when they see anti-Semitic propaganda that can be seen as supportive even if other Jews do not protest.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on January 4, 2015, at 17:29:53
In reply to Lou's response-ceeriusredickulus » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2015, at 15:39:02
Lou do you feel hurt and depressed if so I am so sorry. I for one have never meant to hurt or insult you. Phillipa
Posted by alexandra_k on January 6, 2015, at 20:13:36
In reply to Re: Is Anyone Running Babble Now?, posted by Twinleaf on January 3, 2015, at 10:50:54
maybe something has happened to him. can someone check if he's alive, or something?
Posted by 10derheart on January 7, 2015, at 13:31:08
In reply to Re: Is Anyone Running Babble Now?, posted by alexandra_k on January 6, 2015, at 20:13:36
alex,
He just deleted posts from a blocked poster a couple days ago. I am sure he's fine. A long absence, this time of year especially, is not unusual.
Kinda hard to check on someone who won't/is to busy to answer emails, but take heart in the fact he deleted posts...who would bother to do that in the big scheme of life if anything was wrong??
Don't worry :-) I'm making sense and you are excellent at recognizing that. ;-)
Posted by alexandra_k on January 7, 2015, at 19:12:33
In reply to he is likely quite okay » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on January 7, 2015, at 13:31:08
Ah, I guess I though that Dinah or someone else might have deleted the posts. But I don't even know who can do what, anymore. If I ever did know. I think gg phoned him at work once. After he went AWOl. Just to check that he was okay. Anyway... I guess he's probably fine.
Posted by 10derheart on January 8, 2015, at 2:56:45
In reply to Re: he is likely quite okay, posted by alexandra_k on January 7, 2015, at 19:12:33
I haven't been a deputy for 5.5 years....August 2009.
Dinah...I forget...but it's been a long while now.
Racer's name may still appear but she hasn't acted since 2012 or so. There are no deputies.
Dr. Bob is it.
Wish he'd appear and post, if only to reassure those who've known him a long time and worry...
But... sigh.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 8, 2015, at 14:28:28
In reply to Re: he is likely quite okay » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on January 8, 2015, at 2:56:45
Posted by Phillipa on January 8, 2015, at 19:53:02
In reply to Re: he is likely quite okay » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on January 8, 2015, at 2:56:45
What ever happened to Racer?
Posted by 10derheart on January 9, 2015, at 12:36:16
In reply to Re: he is likely quite okay » 10derheart, posted by Phillipa on January 8, 2015, at 19:53:02
I have no idea.
Life?
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