Posted by Lou Pilder on January 4, 2015, at 15:39:02
In reply to Re: Lou's response-jmpjmp » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2015, at 19:57:54
> First of all it stresses me not at all that someone runs the site. i just use the google bar and look at any new posts if they exist. Maybe Lou a warning to Jews should be posted that they might find this site antisemetic, and it could cause them to kill themselves.
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> Which I and others know is seriously ridiculous as many posters are of the Jewish Faith. I guess I must be alive cause I am not Jewish is this what you are meaning?
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> P,
You wrote,[...could cause them to kill themselves... What I and others know...is this what you are meaning...].
What is known is that there is a continual body of evidence showing how suicide could be induced from sites such as this. The mechanism that is known is that humiliation comes to the suicidal person from statements made on the sites that are allowed to stand. These statements are of the nature that they humiliate or ridicule and attack the target person into leading them to feel inferior and that drives the target person into a vortex of downward depression that may have already been in the person seeking to come out of it by entering the site as being lured by thinking that the site coud be of help to them. Many of these sites do not allow humiliation and ridicule and defamation and racism to stand by removing those type of posts or the owner/moderator/operator posts a sanction to them. The law in the U.S. allows the owner of these sites to allow 3erd party posts to defame with the owner given immunity (unless the owner creates or develops the defamation). There are other countries that do hold the operators liable for 3erd party posts as either negligence from not sanctioning those type of posts or refusing to post a repudiation to the statements that, let's say, insult Islam. There are also laws against insulting Judaism in Israel. You can look these up as using {blasphemy}and those laws for individual countries.
In this site, the owner claims in his TOS that the site is for support and fairness and the Golden Rule being applied. That could give an expectation for Jewish people to think that Judaism will not be allowed to be insulted, made to be portrayed as inferior to Christianity, or anything else that could lead a Jew to feel that their faith is being put down/accused. He further states that being supportive takes precedence and that he does not wait to sanction a statement that puts down/accuses because one match could star a forest fire. And further, he states that if a statement is not sanctioned, it could be considered to be not against his rules. He has not revised his TOS/FAQ to change any of that so that readers that read the FAQ/TOS see that one is not to post anything that could lead one to feel put down or accused and to be sensitive to other's feelings and not post vulgar words or phrases and such as can be seen in the FAQ. Those that take Mr. Hsiung at his word could feel deceived if statements that humiliate them are seen as being supportive because being supportive takes precedence here according to what Mr. Hsiung has posted here. This feeling of being deceived could cause the hope that, let's say, a Jewish teenager in depression coming out of it to be cast down in worse depression and the hope that they may have had could be taken away by the humiliation of, let's say, that the Jewish teenager sees that anti-Semitic propaganda can be seen as supportive and worse, that it will be goof for this community as a whole according to Mr. Hsiung's thinking. This "good" has a historical significance that could cause a Jewish person to feel humiliated in that this site has anti-Semitic propaganda able to be seen as supportive and that on the admin board the excuse or reason to be seen as supportive is that the owner's thinking is that it will be good for this community as a whole. This could outrage some readers that have an understanding of European fascism.
There may be Jewish members here that turn a blind eye to the anti-Semitic propaganda that could be seen here as being supportive, but there could be other Jews that left here because of that. But be it as it may be, there could be Jewish readers that could feel humiliation here when they see anti-Semitic propaganda that can be seen as supportive even if other Jews do not protest.
Lou
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