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Posted by joe f on November 26, 2014, at 12:24:10
does 1mg twice daily,600 tegretol, 30 Cymbalta, and 100 lamictal seems a lot for treating ocd/mood disorder...it seems when klonopin is lowered I start having trouble....so aere these other meds even helping...psych says "you need to be on all of them"
Posted by rjlockhart37 on November 26, 2014, at 13:03:02
In reply to too many meds, posted by joe f on November 26, 2014, at 12:24:10
that's not a lot of meds, I've read a couple things on the net people who take 7 and above, all psych, so....I think this is fine....the doses are not high, and it looks like a good med combination
how is making your feel? sedated, good, apathy? I'm on heavy doses of meds, and it's not a bad thing only when it changes the way you think and difficult to function
does klono make you depressed?
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 26, 2014, at 14:42:07
In reply to too many meds, posted by joe f on November 26, 2014, at 12:24:10
> does 1mg twice daily,600 tegretol, 30 Cymbalta, and 100 lamictal seems a lot for treating ocd/mood disorder...it seems when klonopin is lowered I start having trouble....so aere these other meds even helping...psych says "you need to be on all of them"
joe f,
You wrote the above. The drugs that you are taking together can lead to depression. and worse, to death. This is all because when one takes multiple psychotropic drugs, the adverse effects can be increased exponentially. I have the following questions and if you could post answers to them, I could further offer you help that I think could save your life, prevent life-ruining condition and addictions.
True or False:
A. I have had a rash, Lou, after I started taking these drugs.
B. I can drive a car without any problems, Lou.
C. I have had my blood glucose level checked and it is OK, Lou.
D. The prescribing doctor has told me, Lou, that the combination of these drugs that I am taking could cause stevens-johnson syndrome.
E. The psychiatrist told me that taking all of these drugs together, Lou, could cause sudden death.
F. The psychiatrist told me that taking all of these drugs together could lead to Tardive Dyskinesia
G. The psychiatrist told me, Lou, that taking all of these drugs together could cause me to kill myself.
H. Since the owner/operator of this site is a psychiatrist, and he has not posted that taking all of these drugs together could harm me, then I think, Lou, that it is OK for me to take these drugs together.
I. SInce another poster here validates taking all these drugs as OK, then I can be sure that it is OK for me to take all of these drugs, Lou.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on November 26, 2014, at 16:53:24
In reply to Lou's response-valahdayt » joe f, posted by Lou Pilder on November 26, 2014, at 14:42:07
Lou why don't you write Dr Bob and ask him if it's okay to take these meds as he's a psychiatrist right? Phillipa
Posted by phidippus on November 26, 2014, at 17:34:25
In reply to too many meds, posted by joe f on November 26, 2014, at 12:24:10
I'm on 800 mg Carbamazapine, 900 mg Lithium, 100 mg Luvox, 12 mg Invega and I'm not on too much. You'll feel it when its too much.
Eric
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 26, 2014, at 18:55:11
In reply to Re: too many meds » joe f, posted by phidippus on November 26, 2014, at 17:34:25
> I'm on 800 mg Carbamazapine, 900 mg Lithium, 100 mg Luvox, 12 mg Invega and I'm not on too much. You'll feel it when its too much.
>
> Eric
Eric,
You wrote,[...you will feel it when it is too much..].
I am unsure as to what you want readers to believe by what you wrote. If you could post answers here to the following, then I could respond accordingly.
True or False:
A. I want readers to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning that you will feel when the drugs taken in combination are too much that will cause sudden death so they can stop the drugs to avoid death.
B. I want readers to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning before one gets akathisia so they can stop the drugs to avoid it.
C. I want people to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning before one is compelled to kill themselves and/or others so they can stop the drug and not kill themselves and/or others.
D. I want readers to believe that there will be a warning, Lou, that one is going to get diabetes from the drugs so they can stop the drugs before diabetes is actuated in their bodies from the drugs.
E. I want readers to believe that there will be a warning, Lou, that serotonin syndrome that leads to death is going to happen so that the drugs can be stopped.
F. I want readers to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning before one has impairment of thinking and judgment and extreme confusion from the drugs, so they can stop the drugs before they kill themselves by not understanding what could happen to them from what they are doing.
Lou
Posted by cadett on November 26, 2014, at 23:24:44
In reply to Lou's request-truorfalz » phidippus, posted by Lou Pilder on November 26, 2014, at 18:55:11
Anyone besides me sick of Lou? We are trying to learn what meds work. your interuptions take away from the learning take away from the learning phase!
Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted by joe f on November 27, 2014, at 7:55:13
In reply to Re: Lou's request-truorfalz, posted by cadett on November 26, 2014, at 23:24:44
no suicide thoughts-no stevens johnsn-some edepression(condition) none of the other above symptoms----thinking of dropping either tegretol or lamictal......I am a well controlled diabetic for 12 years so dr. will not prescribe atypicals...don't get your point lou ....been on combo for years
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 27, 2014, at 8:06:59
In reply to Re: Lou's request-truorfalz, posted by cadett on November 26, 2014, at 23:24:44
> Anyone besides me sick of Lou? We are trying to learn what meds work. your interuptions take away from the learning take away from the learning phase!
> Happy Thanksgiving!cadet,
You wrote the above. I am unsure as to what you want readers to believe from what you wrote. If you could post answers here to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond to you.
True or False:
A. I get sick, Lou, when anyone posts facts here that could offer readers information and education so that they could make a more-informed decision as to take these drugs or not.
B. I only get sick when you, Lou, post here facts that could offer readers educational information that could give them a more-informed way to make a decision as to take these drugs or not.
C. I want to arouse hostile and disagreeable feelings and opinions about you, Lou, by using you as a scapegoat for our real or imagined ills of this community.
D. I want to stigmatize you, Lou, by alluding that you keep readers from learning by interrupting with educational information.
E. I want the mothers and fathers and caretakers of family members to not hear from you, Lou, because they may learn from you that these drugs could kill their child or loved one.
F. By you exposing that these drugs taken in combination, Lou, could cause an exponential increase that could give takers of the drugs life-ruining conditions, addictions and death, we (whoever are in that subset) can not learn what meds work.
G. We, (whoever those people are Lou),have doctors and psychiatrists that prescribe these mind-altering drugs to us and they do not know what will work for us so we exchange information here to find that out so that we can go back to the psychiatrist and tell him/her that what was prescribed to us was wrong.
H. By me posting what I have here, about your character, Lou, I can decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which you are held with impunity for this forum is for support and a subset of readers could think that what I have posted about you, Lou, is supportive unless the owner sanctions my post about you.
I. redacted by respondent
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 27, 2014, at 12:52:37
In reply to Re: Lou's request-truorfalz, posted by joe f on November 27, 2014, at 7:55:13
> no suicide thoughts-no stevens johnsn-some edepression(condition) none of the other above symptoms----thinking of dropping either tegretol or lamictal......I am a well controlled diabetic for 12 years so dr. will not prescribe atypicals...don't get your point lou ....been on combo for years
joe f,
You wrote,[...been on combo for years...].
The posters that can be seen here live to post more. The ones that can not be seen here, some have their posts interred in their bones.
Some people that take combinations of mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist / doctor, die very soon upon commencing the drugs. Some die much later after years of misery with life-ruining conditions and addictions given to them by the drugs and failure for the drugs to stop the depression and/or anxiety as they thought that the psychiatrist/doctor/drug manufacturer led people to think would do, including the smiling people doing fun things with happy background music as seen on TV in their advertising/marketing campaign. Those commercials do not show children hanging dead, or the bodies of innocent people that were murdered by people on these drugs or withdrawing from them, so that viewers could make their own determination as to take these drugs or not as to if the murderous rampage or suicide was precipitated by the drugs. The FDA now warns that these drugs could induce suicidal thinking, maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but could do so for the rest of their lives.
So let it be with this site for posters to advocate mind-altering drugs to be taken in combination where the research shows that the adverse effects could be increased exponentially. And my point is that mothers seeking to decide to drug their child or not could be misled here if they are not educated with the facts concerning these drugs that could kill their child. I do not need to wait until those that advocate these drugs are actually killed by them for me to offer educational material to help mothers decide to drug their child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor.
Lou
Posted by cadett on November 27, 2014, at 22:13:43
In reply to Lou's request-psygmah » cadett, posted by Lou Pilder on November 27, 2014, at 8:06:59
You seem to very intelligent so give us a cure!
All the negative feedback only drags us looking for help down. I respect your right to express yourself and what you believe, but give us some help, give us a cure!
Best wishes.
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 28, 2014, at 11:06:40
In reply to Re: Lou's request-psygmah, posted by cadett on November 27, 2014, at 22:13:43
> You seem to very intelligent so give us a cure!
> All the negative feedback only drags us looking for help down. I respect your right to express yourself and what you believe, but give us some help, give us a cure!
> Best wishes.cadett,
You wrote,[...us looking for help...give us some help, give us a cure...].
Many of you already know that I have been attempting to write here about two roads. One road is a very broad road and many go there, and that road leads to death. And the other road is a very narrow road that leads to life eternal and few there be that find it. It is on the road to life that there is help, help to have you overcome all things, including death.
And many of you already know that I have been attempting to write here about two realms. One realm as the death realm, and one realm is the realm of life and peace. And that there is a Great Gulf fixed between the two realms that one can not pass over. And many of you know that I have been attempting to write here about two minds. One the mind that you are born with, the flesh mind, the natural mind, the carnal mind, that is the death realm. And the other mind is the spiritual mind of life that one can have, for to be carnally minded is death and to be spiritually minded is life. This entering across the Great Gulf into the spiritual realm leads to the overcoming of all things, to be transformed into a new person with a new mind, a cure. For when one passes over the Great Gulf, their minds are renewed to be restored which cures the poison of the carnal mind to allow one to go forth in joy, released from the bondage that they are in to depression and anxiety and addiction.
I have come here to tell how to pass over the Great Gulf to a new realm to be in, where there is peace. But one can not pass over this gulf, but the realm can be here on Earth as it is there. One can be on Earth and receive the realm here. There can be a connection , a spiritual bridge, that joins the two realms so that whatever is in that realm is on Earth as it is there.
I have come to seek those that know that they are lost. And have healing infused into them that gives them the power to overcome depression and addiction. And to that one can receive the source to be nourished in the new realm. This source is not drugs from the psychiatrist, but a nourishing source that brings the new realm to you here, on Earth as it is in the new realm. This nourishment you take daily. And day upon day one nourished with this source becomes transformed by the renewing of their minds to expel the poison that is causing the depression and addiction. And one can leave the death realm and go out with joy, and be led forth with peace; the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. Gone will be the dark clouds for the Sun of righteousness shall arise with healing in His wings.
Lou
Posted by Lamdage22 on November 29, 2014, at 4:09:03
In reply to Lou's reply-dhyleighbrd » cadett, posted by Lou Pilder on November 28, 2014, at 11:06:40
Lou, you have no proof that there is any road that doesnt lead to death sooner or later.
Rationally, most clues point toward no life after death.
What makes you so sure?
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 29, 2014, at 14:30:28
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-dhyleighbrd, posted by Lamdage22 on November 29, 2014, at 4:09:03
> Lou, you have no proof that there is any road that doesnt lead to death sooner or later.
>
> Rationally, most clues point toward no life after death.
>
> What makes you so sure?
L,
You wrote,[...What makes you so sure?...].
The surety that I have is a result of many things. One thing is to be revealed that there is a God that created the heavens and the Earth. Now revelation comes to one in different ways. And those that give service and worship to a God other than the one that I give service and worship to could have different revelation concerning as to if there is life beyond death.
Now revelation can come to one by having unveiled what is hidden or covered. And revelation could come to one by direct infusion from the God that they give service and worship to.
The main source of revelation to me has been from hearing the Word of God. This "hearing" is a "receiving" that gives revelation. It is like a radio and a receiver analogy. And The Word of God has been revealed to me to be being broadcast continuously to all men, not on radio or television, but by a frequency from above. The broadcast is for all men and they can receive The Word of God. But something has been given so that hearers can validate that what they receive is the Word of God. The validating mechanism is the written word of God to the Jews. When the received Word and the written Word joined together, revelation can be received. For instance, one may have a want for understanding as to why we were created and for what purpose and how we are to live and when we die could we live again. These questions are all answered in the written word that the Jews use. And when one is surly confident that those words are truth, then that is what is known as {faith}, for it has been revealed to me that faith comes by hearing the Word of God.
It is this type of faith that can lead one to be revealed Truth from above. For instance, in the scriptures that the Jews use, Job asks ,[...If a man die shall he live again?...]. And Daniel says that there will be two resurrections of all people. And David sys that he will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
I believe those few verses and the rest of the scriptures to be Truth. And in Psalm 19, it says the heavens declare the glory of God. That one verse could give revelation to an atheist if they were hearing and receiving The Word of God when they read that. It has been revealed to me that for as many that receive that, a power will be given to overcome all things, even death.
Yet today, the calling from above is not received by many. I have come here to show readers the frequency to tune to so that they can be chosen by the calling. for it has been revealed to me that many are called, but few are chosen.
Lou
Posted by phidippus on December 1, 2014, at 16:25:15
In reply to Lou's request-truorfalz » phidippus, posted by Lou Pilder on November 26, 2014, at 18:55:11
>A. I want readers to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning that you will feel when the drugs taken in combination are too much that will cause sudden death so they can stop the drugs to avoid death.
True or False:
A. Sudden death can occur when one is not taking medication.
>B. I want readers to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning before one gets akathisia so they can stop the drugs to avoid it.
True or False:
B. Akathisia is treatable, non-permanent condition
>C. I want people to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning before one is compelled to kill themselves and/or others so they can stop the drug and not kill themselves and/or others.
True or False:
C. There will be a warning before one is compelled to kill themselves and/or others whether they are on drug or not.
>D. I want readers to believe that there will be a warning, Lou, that one is going to get diabetes from the drugs so they can stop the drugs before diabetes is actuated in their bodies from the drugs.
True or False:
D. Diabete may be instigated by other factors other than drugs.
>E. I want readers to believe that there will be a warning, Lou, that serotonin syndrome that leads to death is going to happen so that the drugs can be stopped.
True or False:
E. Serotonin syndrome has early signs and is completely treatable.
>F. I want readers to believe, Lou, that there will be a warning before one has impairment of thinking and judgment and extreme confusion from the drugs, so they can stop the drugs before they kill themselves by not understanding what could happen to them from what they are doing.
True or False:
F. Impairment of thinking and judgement and extreme confusion are early and very detectable signs a medication is not working and usually leads to discontinuation before something as catastrophic as suicide occurs.
Eric
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