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Posted by Cee on March 8, 2013, at 22:42:29
Hello Nardil lovers
Found out that a company called Travis is making the old nardill in the states and walgreen and walmart will be the stores where you can get it
Good luck. Cee
Posted by brklyn233342 on March 8, 2013, at 23:20:44
In reply to Old Nardil purchase, posted by Cee on March 8, 2013, at 22:42:29
Without crossing any lines, it can also be found in bulk powder form with a bit of searching. Definitely out there for those who require it.
Posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2013, at 4:21:27
In reply to Old Nardil purchase, posted by Cee on March 8, 2013, at 22:42:29
Cee,
Do you mean Gavis instead of Travis? Gavis Pharmaceuticals already makes a generic form of phenelzine that's different from Pfizer's Nardil, but it's not the same as the "old" Nardil. Like Pfizer's Nardil, the Gavis phenelzine has a film coating, and those who responded preferentially to the "old" Nardil on the Anxiety Community forum generally have not fared any better on the Gavis phenelzine than they've fared on Pfizer's Nardil. So, I think that what you've heard about is simply the generic version of Nardil that's being made by Gavis Pharmaceuticals. That's not the "old" Nardil.
Tomatheus
Posted by brklyn233342 on March 9, 2013, at 12:45:48
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase, posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2013, at 4:21:27
Since the OLD NARDIL was touted as the gold standard so often i too looked into it,the only source of obtaining the true old nardil seemed to be ordering in bulk form as a actual chemical from a chem house OR i also seen on a actual nardil group the use of some form of nardil LIQUID that was being made or shared to help the many people who claimed to have suffered due to the formulation change.P.S My girl s-hasling sends her greetings to you and speaks well of you...
Posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2013, at 14:47:56
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase, posted by brklyn233342 on March 9, 2013, at 12:45:48
Yeah, I remember the liquid Nardil. I guess that too wasn't exactly the "old" Nardil, but apparently those who took it (the liquid version) at least did better than they did on the new version of the medication.
Thank you for passing on Shasling's greetings. Tell her that I say hello and that I seem to be more or less holding together at the moment. I fell out of contact with Shasling several years ago after my psychotic symptoms came on with a vengeance. I haven't really been the same since (my fatigue and other depressive symptoms actually aren't as bad as they used to be, but I have psychosis and cognitive impairment to contend with now), but I had some memorable online exchanges with Shasling and remember her helping me through some trying times.
May the two of you take good care of each other.
Tomatheus
Posted by brklyn233342 on March 9, 2013, at 20:22:19
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase » brklyn233342, posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2013, at 14:47:56
Dont worry just because you thought you fell a drift from her both her and i always read the group,the disease is a horrable one and when you battle or battled it you never forget the pain it carried and most people devolp a true care for others suffering from it,its true unless you felt it can you really know the pain others are going through and for that i myself even when not posting read and wish people success
Posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2013, at 21:11:11
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase, posted by brklyn233342 on March 9, 2013, at 20:22:19
Thanks, Willyee. I do agree that those who suffer from an affective disorder, a psychotic disorder, both, or probably also some other psychiatric illnesses tend to develop a sense of compassion for others that they very well might not have developed if they wouldn't have had to contend with the symptoms that they've contended with. In other words, although I wouldn't wish any of the symptoms that I've experienced on my worst enemy, I do think that suffering could be of some value by helping us to better understand the suffering of others and to help us feel for what they're going through. I don't mean to say that anyone should suffer just because there's value in it, but I do think that those who've overcome an illness emerge with a different outlook from the one that they had going into the illness.
Tomatheus
Posted by sigismund on March 10, 2013, at 0:11:57
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase » brklyn233342, posted by Tomatheus on March 9, 2013, at 14:47:56
Yeah, tell her I say hello too.
Posted by Cee on March 10, 2013, at 0:50:55
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase, posted by sigismund on March 10, 2013, at 0:11:57
Yes the maker of the old Nardil is called gavis and they are making something that is like the old Nardil. But hey they are doing it in the u s a
Cee
Posted by Tomatheus on March 10, 2013, at 13:06:01
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase, posted by Cee on March 10, 2013, at 0:50:55
Cee,
I know that Gavis currently makes a generic version of Nardil that's marketed in the U.S., but it's my understanding that it's more like the "new" Nardil than it's like the "old" Nardil. As I said in an earlier post, the Gavis phenelzine has a film coating, and the members of the Anxiety Community's Nardil forum who were preferentially responsive to the "old" Nardil have not tended to do much better on the Gavis phenelzine than they do on the "new" Nardil, at least from what I've read. Have you heard something indicating that Gavis might change their phenelzine product to make it more like the "old" Nardil? If you have and if you wouldn't mind, could you share with us where you've heard about this from?
I'd appreciate any answers that you'd be willing to provide.
Tomatheus
Posted by brklyn233342 on March 10, 2013, at 17:18:09
In reply to Re: Old Nardil purchase, posted by sigismund on March 10, 2013, at 0:11:57
She says hi too with a smile.As for nardil i remeber reading a hearbreaking story of a woman who was in her late 50`s and she said "here i am a grown woman with kids house a life,and all of a sudden after 20 years of forgetting it all im BACK in docs office,BACK on med go round,and all of a sudden after a normal life at age 50 i find myself back to suffering."This formulation change truly changed peoples life,i hope it was worth it and i hope it was done as they say,by accident with no ill intent and NOT as a ploy to take out a drug that actualy helped,as i stated earlier i wonder with all the same class of drugs which show a mid level and in my sole opinion a almost non exsistent sucess rate if its being done on purpose,i mean why continue on the same ssri path,havent we covered that,why havent we yet to go a totaly diffrent path like the ketamine trials,why is it taking so long,over a decade to introduce a new method of action in a class of drugs rather to continue to introduce almost similiar acting meds with a tweak of action and a different trade name.
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