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Posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 17:45:49
I'm back and I feel like I'm whining but I really don't feel that I have any other support or outlet.
My depression and anxiety is so bad I can hardly move from bed. I can't watch t.v. I feel totally, utterly hopeless and I have little fight left in me.
Because things have been so bad (coming off my recent psych ER stint and being sick & hospitalized prior to that), my mom surprised me w/ a long spa weekend in Miami. It was so sweet and caring of her but I'm still moping and can't control my emotions (weeping constantly, having outbursts, trying to validate my emotions). We're supposed to leave tomorrow (it's also extremely cold and depressing in NY right now), but she's already sick of my whining and I don't want to ruin things. My family is so hurt & sick over my suffering, and it only makes me feel worse.
All I'm on is Lexapro 10 mg & trazadone for sleep. My mom is holding my Xanax. All of these Rx's are a hybrid of a botched withdrawal attempt. Benzos stopped working. Nothing even slightly eases the pain. Things like Seroquel and Zyprexa don't touch what I'm feeling. Tramadol doesn't work. As a last resort, I just got Fioricet w/ codeine from my reg doc (my pdoc just dumped me and I'm not seeing a new one until next week). Pain pills are the only meds that come close to easing things up. Wise? Doubtful, but I'm hoping it'll get me by...I see no harm in using them as a bandaid.
I'm just looking to vent. I feel like I'm losing my mind completely. I'm desperate and don't know what to do anymore.
Thanks,
b
Posted by cellular on January 24, 2013, at 18:56:09
In reply to Pain pills for psychic pain, posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 17:45:49
> I'm back and I feel like I'm whining but I really don't feel that I have any other support or outlet.
>
> My depression and anxiety is so bad I can hardly move from bed. I can't watch t.v. I feel totally, utterly hopeless and I have little fight left in me.
>
> Because things have been so bad (coming off my recent psych ER stint and being sick & hospitalized prior to that), my mom surprised me w/ a long spa weekend in Miami. It was so sweet and caring of her but I'm still moping and can't control my emotions (weeping constantly, having outbursts, trying to validate my emotions). We're supposed to leave tomorrow (it's also extremely cold and depressing in NY right now), but she's already sick of my whining and I don't want to ruin things. My family is so hurt & sick over my suffering, and it only makes me feel worse.
>
> All I'm on is Lexapro 10 mg & trazadone for sleep. My mom is holding my Xanax. All of these Rx's are a hybrid of a botched withdrawal attempt. Benzos stopped working. Nothing even slightly eases the pain. Things like Seroquel and Zyprexa don't touch what I'm feeling. Tramadol doesn't work. As a last resort, I just got Fioricet w/ codeine from my reg doc (my pdoc just dumped me and I'm not seeing a new one until next week). Pain pills are the only meds that come close to easing things up. Wise? Doubtful, but I'm hoping it'll get me by...I see no harm in using them as a bandaid.
>
> I'm just looking to vent. I feel like I'm losing my mind completely. I'm desperate and don't know what to do anymore.
>
> Thanks,
> bHello Brynb,
We already met today on the thread about the possible role of inflammation in depression.
I was just perusing this site when I noticed this post of yours and I can relate to the pain you're going through, since I've been there too.As for a possible treatment, have you tried other antidepressants than escitalopram (Lexapro) and trazodone?
From what I gathered during prior years of research, both tend to have a low success profile for relieving depression.I had to go through the hell of eight years testing all kinds of SSRIs, tetracyclics and antipsychotics until I finally got lucky with sertraline (brand name Zoloft) and trimipramine. The sertraline alone made be too irritable, but instinctively I felt during the first days of its administration that this SSRI would be working and it has literally saved my life, since the suicidal thoughts and outbursts of anger vanished.
After a few weeks of trial, I asked my pdoc about what he could prescribe to counteract the irritability and trouble sleeping and yet again, he picked a winner, namely trimipramine which is a sedating tricyclic.My experience and probably that of the vast majority of others dealing with this illness is that it may take a lot of patience and many years -- in my case about eight years -- until you get lucky and get the med(s) that do their job.
I hope it won't take that long for you to find the right med(s), but you need patience (and a patient pdoc!) and perseverance to undergo the process of trial and error. But no matter how long it takes, I believe you will finally find the med or combination of meds that will alleviate your depression.
Hang on in there, and sooner or later you'll hit the jackpocket, so to speak.
cellular
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 24, 2013, at 19:07:12
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » brynb, posted by cellular on January 24, 2013, at 18:56:09
> > I'm back and I feel like I'm whining but I really don't feel that I have any other support or outlet.
> >
> > My depression and anxiety is so bad I can hardly move from bed. I can't watch t.v. I feel totally, utterly hopeless and I have little fight left in me.
> >
> > Because things have been so bad (coming off my recent psych ER stint and being sick & hospitalized prior to that), my mom surprised me w/ a long spa weekend in Miami. It was so sweet and caring of her but I'm still moping and can't control my emotions (weeping constantly, having outbursts, trying to validate my emotions). We're supposed to leave tomorrow (it's also extremely cold and depressing in NY right now), but she's already sick of my whining and I don't want to ruin things. My family is so hurt & sick over my suffering, and it only makes me feel worse.
> >
> > All I'm on is Lexapro 10 mg & trazadone for sleep. My mom is holding my Xanax. All of these Rx's are a hybrid of a botched withdrawal attempt. Benzos stopped working. Nothing even slightly eases the pain. Things like Seroquel and Zyprexa don't touch what I'm feeling. Tramadol doesn't work. As a last resort, I just got Fioricet w/ codeine from my reg doc (my pdoc just dumped me and I'm not seeing a new one until next week). Pain pills are the only meds that come close to easing things up. Wise? Doubtful, but I'm hoping it'll get me by...I see no harm in using them as a bandaid.
> >
> > I'm just looking to vent. I feel like I'm losing my mind completely. I'm desperate and don't know what to do anymore.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > b
>
> Hello Brynb,
>
> We already met today on the thread about the possible role of inflammation in depression.
> I was just perusing this site when I noticed this post of yours and I can relate to the pain you're going through, since I've been there too.
>
> As for a possible treatment, have you tried other antidepressants than escitalopram (Lexapro) and trazodone?
> From what I gathered during prior years of research, both tend to have a low success profile for relieving depression.
>
> I had to go through the hell of eight years testing all kinds of SSRIs, tetracyclics and antipsychotics until I finally got lucky with sertraline (brand name Zoloft) and trimipramine. The sertraline alone made be too irritable, but instinctively I felt during the first days of its administration that this SSRI would be working and it has literally saved my life, since the suicidal thoughts and outbursts of anger vanished.
> After a few weeks of trial, I asked my pdoc about what he could prescribe to counteract the irritability and trouble sleeping and yet again, he picked a winner, namely trimipramine which is a sedating tricyclic.
>
> My experience and probably that of the vast majority of others dealing with this illness is that it may take a lot of patience and many years -- in my case about eight years -- until you get lucky and get the med(s) that do their job.
>
> I hope it won't take that long for you to find the right med(s), but you need patience (and a patient pdoc!) and perseverance to undergo the process of trial and error. But no matter how long it takes, I believe you will finally find the med or combination of meds that will alleviate your depression.
>
> Hang on in there, and sooner or later you'll hit the jackpocket, so to speak.
>
> cellular
>
> Friends,
It is written here,[...I had to go through the hell of 8 years testing..SSRIs...trial and error...sooner or later you'll hit the jackpot...].
>
>
Posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 19:11:59
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » brynb, posted by cellular on January 24, 2013, at 18:56:09
Hi again, Cellular. Welcome to the forum and thanks for your input.
With the exception of a bunch of the MAOIs, TMS and ECT, I feel like I've tried everything and every class of ADs, APs, etc. I haven't been lucky w/ pdocs (ironic, as I live in NYC and one would think there must be a few good ones here). I'm 38 and have been dealing with depression since I was 14. I didn't tell anyone in my family when I was a teenager as I was too embarrassed and thought that how I felt was "normal." I first sought help in college after my first major breakdown. Depression has been my baseline as long as I can remember.
I'm seeing a new pdoc next week and have heard stellar reviews. He offers outpatient Ketamine shots and in office TMS, plus all the psychopharmacology. I know better than to be hopeful, but I need something right now. As far as the pain meds go, the codeine just kicked in and my mood is now temporarily "up." I'm at the point where I'd take a morphine drip if I could.
Thanks for your words of encouragement. I hope you're in a good place.
-b
Posted by rjlockhart37 on January 24, 2013, at 19:42:08
In reply to Pain pills for psychic pain, posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 17:45:49
Ask you doctor about Suboxone...its a offlabel use sometimes for depression, but mainly its for withdrawl from opiates...its a low form of an opiate but you can't really get high on it but it will provide that ease, and comfort feeling.
Also if you can make a trip to the health food store there is something called DL phenylalanine....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylalaninethat has similar effects, but much much more less noticable than an opiate....it can be used for the comfort feeling that is similar to opiates.
Other stuff like lyrica or nuerontin do have a postive effect on mood...it just depends...it sedates some people, others it lifts the mood, or btoh of them.try to focus whats the root of the pain...it can help to find the source of it rather than trying to cut off branches that just grow back....get to the root and pull it out...just like a tree or something....
r
Posted by baseball55 on January 24, 2013, at 19:48:59
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain, posted by rjlockhart37 on January 24, 2013, at 19:42:08
I asked for suboxone once when I was in a hospital and they considered it. As it turned out, they put me on parnate and it worked. I am actually glad. Suboxone is an opiate. You build up tolerance and can't get off it, like methadone. Psychic pain is awful and trumps physical pain, I know. But opiates are bad news. Some people find tramadol helpful and that's the least addictive of opiates. But it's still an opiate and keeping on scrip with an opiate is hard. Tolerance builds quickly, doctors get suspicious, the FDA investigates them. Bad news all around.
Posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 20:11:50
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain, posted by rjlockhart37 on January 24, 2013, at 19:42:08
hi rj-
glad to see you back here!
Thanks for the suggestions--they're good ones. Unfortunately, I tried Subuxone off and on for a while, and it just doesn't work after a few days. Unfortunately, Neurontin makes me manic. My hands are tied.
I'll look into the Phenylalanine. I haven't had much luck w/ homeopathics--I wish I did.
Again, thanks for the feedback, rj. Hope you're doing well...
b
Posted by schleprock on January 24, 2013, at 20:54:55
In reply to Lou's response-gmblerzrewhyn » cellular, posted by Lou Pilder on January 24, 2013, at 19:07:12
> > > I'm back and I feel like I'm whining but I really don't feel that I have any other support or outlet.
> > >
> > > My depression and anxiety is so bad I can hardly move from bed. I can't watch t.v. I feel totally, utterly hopeless and I have little fight left in me.
> > >
> > > Because things have been so bad (coming off my recent psych ER stint and being sick & hospitalized prior to that), my mom surprised me w/ a long spa weekend in Miami. It was so sweet and caring of her but I'm still moping and can't control my emotions (weeping constantly, having outbursts, trying to validate my emotions). We're supposed to leave tomorrow (it's also extremely cold and depressing in NY right now), but she's already sick of my whining and I don't want to ruin things. My family is so hurt & sick over my suffering, and it only makes me feel worse.
> > >
> > > All I'm on is Lexapro 10 mg & trazadone for sleep. My mom is holding my Xanax. All of these Rx's are a hybrid of a botched withdrawal attempt. Benzos stopped working. Nothing even slightly eases the pain. Things like Seroquel and Zyprexa don't touch what I'm feeling. Tramadol doesn't work. As a last resort, I just got Fioricet w/ codeine from my reg doc (my pdoc just dumped me and I'm not seeing a new one until next week). Pain pills are the only meds that come close to easing things up. Wise? Doubtful, but I'm hoping it'll get me by...I see no harm in using them as a bandaid.
> > >
> > > I'm just looking to vent. I feel like I'm losing my mind completely. I'm desperate and don't know what to do anymore.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > b
> >
> > Hello Brynb,
> >
> > We already met today on the thread about the possible role of inflammation in depression.
> > I was just perusing this site when I noticed this post of yours and I can relate to the pain you're going through, since I've been there too.
> >
> > As for a possible treatment, have you tried other antidepressants than escitalopram (Lexapro) and trazodone?
> > From what I gathered during prior years of research, both tend to have a low success profile for relieving depression.
> >
> > I had to go through the hell of eight years testing all kinds of SSRIs, tetracyclics and antipsychotics until I finally got lucky with sertraline (brand name Zoloft) and trimipramine. The sertraline alone made be too irritable, but instinctively I felt during the first days of its administration that this SSRI would be working and it has literally saved my life, since the suicidal thoughts and outbursts of anger vanished.
> > After a few weeks of trial, I asked my pdoc about what he could prescribe to counteract the irritability and trouble sleeping and yet again, he picked a winner, namely trimipramine which is a sedating tricyclic.
> >
> > My experience and probably that of the vast majority of others dealing with this illness is that it may take a lot of patience and many years -- in my case about eight years -- until you get lucky and get the med(s) that do their job.
> >
> > I hope it won't take that long for you to find the right med(s), but you need patience (and a patient pdoc!) and perseverance to undergo the process of trial and error. But no matter how long it takes, I believe you will finally find the med or combination of meds that will alleviate your depression.
> >
> > Hang on in there, and sooner or later you'll hit the jackpocket, so to speak.
> >
> > cellular
> >
> > Friends,
> It is written here,[...I had to go through the hell of 8 years testing..SSRIs...trial and error...sooner or later you'll hit the jackpot...].
>
>
> >
> >
>
>Fall asleep at the PC again, Lou?
Posted by Lou Pilder on January 24, 2013, at 22:10:31
In reply to Lou's response-gmblerzrewhyn » cellular, posted by Lou Pilder on January 24, 2013, at 19:07:12
> > > I'm back and I feel like I'm whining but I really don't feel that I have any other support or outlet.
> > >
> > > My depression and anxiety is so bad I can hardly move from bed. I can't watch t.v. I feel totally, utterly hopeless and I have little fight left in me.
> > >
> > > Because things have been so bad (coming off my recent psych ER stint and being sick & hospitalized prior to that), my mom surprised me w/ a long spa weekend in Miami. It was so sweet and caring of her but I'm still moping and can't control my emotions (weeping constantly, having outbursts, trying to validate my emotions). We're supposed to leave tomorrow (it's also extremely cold and depressing in NY right now), but she's already sick of my whining and I don't want to ruin things. My family is so hurt & sick over my suffering, and it only makes me feel worse.
> > >
> > > All I'm on is Lexapro 10 mg & trazadone for sleep. My mom is holding my Xanax. All of these Rx's are a hybrid of a botched withdrawal attempt. Benzos stopped working. Nothing even slightly eases the pain. Things like Seroquel and Zyprexa don't touch what I'm feeling. Tramadol doesn't work. As a last resort, I just got Fioricet w/ codeine from my reg doc (my pdoc just dumped me and I'm not seeing a new one until next week). Pain pills are the only meds that come close to easing things up. Wise? Doubtful, but I'm hoping it'll get me by...I see no harm in using them as a bandaid.
> > >
> > > I'm just looking to vent. I feel like I'm losing my mind completely. I'm desperate and don't know what to do anymore.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > b
> >
> > Hello Brynb,
> >
> > We already met today on the thread about the possible role of inflammation in depression.
> > I was just perusing this site when I noticed this post of yours and I can relate to the pain you're going through, since I've been there too.
> >
> > As for a possible treatment, have you tried other antidepressants than escitalopram (Lexapro) and trazodone?
> > From what I gathered during prior years of research, both tend to have a low success profile for relieving depression.
> >
> > I had to go through the hell of eight years testing all kinds of SSRIs, tetracyclics and antipsychotics until I finally got lucky with sertraline (brand name Zoloft) and trimipramine. The sertraline alone made be too irritable, but instinctively I felt during the first days of its administration that this SSRI would be working and it has literally saved my life, since the suicidal thoughts and outbursts of anger vanished.
> > After a few weeks of trial, I asked my pdoc about what he could prescribe to counteract the irritability and trouble sleeping and yet again, he picked a winner, namely trimipramine which is a sedating tricyclic.
> >
> > My experience and probably that of the vast majority of others dealing with this illness is that it may take a lot of patience and many years -- in my case about eight years -- until you get lucky and get the med(s) that do their job.
> >
> > I hope it won't take that long for you to find the right med(s), but you need patience (and a patient pdoc!) and perseverance to undergo the process of trial and error. But no matter how long it takes, I believe you will finally find the med or combination of meds that will alleviate your depression.
> >
> > Hang on in there, and sooner or later you'll hit the jackpocket, so to speak.
> >
> > cellular
> >
> > Friends,
> It is written here,[...I had to go through the hell of 8 years testing..SSRIs...trial and error...sooner or later you'll hit the jackpot...].
>
> Friends,
The poster wites that sooner or later you will hit the jackpot.
Well, what about the people that are killed by the drugs before they hit the jackpot? And what about the people that get tardive dyskinesia before they hit the jackpot? And what about the people that kill themselves before they hit the jackpot? And what about the innocent children that are murdered by those taking mind-altering drugs before the taker of the drugs hits the jackpot? And what is the jackpot? Can you readers look at the posters here and see where their lives are now from the drugs? Is that a jackpot? A jackpot of what?
My friends, I am prevented from posting here what could lead you to more than a jackpot. It could lead you to a whole new life, and you could sing a new song. Gone could be the dark clouds and the cold winds. And there would be the Sun shinning healing rays bringing your life back. And you could return to the green fields that you used to know.
Lou
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by Phillipa on January 24, 2013, at 22:43:53
In reply to Pain pills for psychic pain, posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 17:45:49
Bryn but you are still taking that spa weekend tomorrow? I am hoping that this is a great trip and vacation for you. I think you have a jackpot of a Mother!!! Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart37 on January 24, 2013, at 22:44:42
In reply to Lou's response-gmblerzrewhyn, posted by Lou Pilder on January 24, 2013, at 22:10:31
lou....put the shut to the up....
Posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 22:58:08
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » brynb, posted by Phillipa on January 24, 2013, at 22:43:53
thanks, phillipa :). I agree.
-b
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 25, 2013, at 9:31:19
In reply to Pain pills for psychic pain, posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 17:45:49
Dear Bryn,
I see nothing wrong with using pain pills to ease your mental pain when that pain is so unbelievably bad. You obviously need more than a low dose of Lexapro and some Trazadone for sleep. I can't wait til you see the new pdoc. I am hoping that he or she has a fresh perspective and some effective ideas for you.
If it's any consolation, I'm in the same boat with my family. They are sick of hearing about my pain. My Mom especially. I've discovered my brother is the only one who will listen to and support me any time I call him. It took me 46yrs to realize that he went through the same hellish childhood that I did, but, since he has a teflon personality it didn't affect him near as bad as super-sensitive me.
Sorry, went off on a tangent, but I wanted to let you know that I know how much it sucks to hurt SO incredibly bad and then have your loved ones sick of hearing about it. It makes you feel so alone. I'm trying to learn to lean on friends I've made here on babble for support, b/c they understand when our loved ones don't.
So hang in there friend, know you have my support, and hang on to the thought that you are going to see a new pdoc who may be able to help you!
Kat
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 25, 2013, at 9:38:03
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » cellular, posted by brynb on January 24, 2013, at 19:11:59
Damn, sometimes I wish I could have a morphine drip AND a Versed drip and be completely sedated, if not comatose, until some new class of drugs is discovered!
Bryn, I realize more and more that you are so much like me, I've been depressed since age 14 too. And I've tried it all too - even the MAOIs which ended in disaster with the Rhabdo.
I really, really can't wait to hear how things with your new pdoc go. The best of luck to you
Kat
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 25, 2013, at 9:46:07
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain, posted by baseball55 on January 24, 2013, at 19:48:59
> I asked for suboxone once when I was in a hospital and they considered it. As it turned out, they put me on parnate and it worked. I am actually glad. Suboxone is an opiate. You build up tolerance and can't get off it, like methadone. Psychic pain is awful and trumps physical pain, I know. But opiates are bad news. Some people find tramadol helpful and that's the least addictive of opiates. But it's still an opiate and keeping on scrip with an opiate is hard. Tolerance builds quickly, doctors get suspicious, the FDA investigates them. Bad news all around.
Everyone is so different. I'm glad parnate helped you baseball, I truly am. And I know it's helped *lots* of people. Nardil helped me a while until side effects forced me off of it. But parnate gave me Rhabdomyolysis and almost killed me. Tramadol did nothing but make me irritable. Everyone has a lot of advice to give, and that's one of the wonderful things about babble, but in the end, we have to remember that each one of us is different and that different people will react differently, sometimes very differently, than someone else, to the same medication. (And my high school English teacher would berate me for the overuse of the word 'different' in that sentence :))
Kat
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on January 25, 2013, at 16:29:53
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » baseball55, posted by ChicagoKat on January 25, 2013, at 9:46:07
I think starting to take Fiorinal for psychic pain is the slippery slop to becomming Elvis - I would be very warey about doing this for more than a few days
Posted by baseball55 on January 25, 2013, at 18:26:50
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » baseball55, posted by ChicagoKat on January 25, 2013, at 9:46:07
Yeah - I know about your horrible reaction to parnate. For me it worked, but not consistently. Maybe nothing works consistently.
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 26, 2013, at 11:00:28
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » ChicagoKat, posted by baseball55 on January 25, 2013, at 18:26:50
> Yeah - I know about your horrible reaction to parnate. For me it worked, but not consistently. Maybe nothing works consistently.
Yeah, it seems to me that nothing does work consistently. Are you still on Parnate? Whatever you are taking, I hope it is helping.
Kat
Posted by baseball55 on January 26, 2013, at 18:16:54
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain » baseball55, posted by ChicagoKat on January 26, 2013, at 11:00:28
> Yeah, it seems to me that nothing does work consistently. Are you still on Parnate? Whatever you are taking, I hope it is helping.
> Kat
I do still take it, but have had ups and downs on it. Some pretty bad downs. Recently, I've been good and I attribute that partly to lamictal, which seems to control suicidal thoughts, if nothing else, and to working hard with a DBT therapist, which has greatly improved my coping skills. I'm thinking of gradually going off the parnate, so I can go off the xanax for parnate-induced insomnia. But we'll see. My p-doc feels we should leave well enough alone.
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 27, 2013, at 1:41:51
In reply to Re: Lou's response-gmblerzrewhyn » Lou Pilder, posted by rjlockhart37 on January 24, 2013, at 22:44:42
> lou....put the shut to the up....
Sometimes it's not possible to achieve remission, and the thing to do is change tack and try to minimize how much symptoms interfere with your life. It may be an approach that's more Eastern than Western.
Bob
Posted by brynb on January 27, 2013, at 7:04:08
In reply to Re: changing tack, posted by Dr. Bob on January 27, 2013, at 1:41:51
> > lou....put the shut to the up....
>
> Sometimes it's not possible to achieve remission, and the thing to do is change tack and try to minimize how much symptoms interfere with your life. It may be an approach that's more Eastern than Western.
>
> Bob
>
>
I like this approach. I'm beginning to think that this is how I should deal w my depression. I'm realizing the side effects of many of the Western meds are too harsh on my body, and that I need to try to control the symptoms in other ways (exercise, steady sleep schedule, regular schedule, vitamins, etc.). It all sounds great in theory, anyway, but I'm all too aware of how much easier said than done this is.I'm seeing a new pdoc this week. In office, he does TMS, Ketamine shots and med management. I'm hopeful. I'm also going to tell him that I want to be on the absolute least amount of meds possible. We'll see.
Meanwhile, I'm on vacation in Miami. The weather is absolutely beautiful (especially compared to the NY winter) and I swear it's been amazing for my mood. I've been able to get out of bed and push myself to walk and be outside. The horrible depression has subsided; the melancholia is still here though (and irritability, too). But compared to where I've been, I'll take it.
-b
Posted by brynb on January 27, 2013, at 7:12:15
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain - Elvis, posted by jono_in_adelaide on January 25, 2013, at 16:29:53
> I think starting to take Fiorinal for psychic pain is the slippery slop to becomming Elvis - I would be very warey about doing this for more than a few days
Hi Jono,
thanks for your advice. I've been there before (addiction) so I'm pretty cognizant of these things. I only used the Fioricet w Codeine for a few days to get me by; it helped, but in general, I feel I'm moving away from meds for treatment.
Thanks again. Oh, and Elvis' transition from thin and handsome to bloated up and sick is jarring in its own right !
Posted by ChicagoKat on January 27, 2013, at 9:34:26
In reply to Re: changing tack » Dr. Bob, posted by brynb on January 27, 2013, at 7:04:08
Bryn, I'm so glad to read that you are feeling a bit better and are enjoying your vacation and the warmth. Wish I was there with you; it is cold and very gloomy in Chicago today!
Kat xxx
Posted by brynb on January 27, 2013, at 10:39:23
In reply to Re: changing tack » brynb, posted by ChicagoKat on January 27, 2013, at 9:34:26
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on January 27, 2013, at 17:40:39
In reply to Re: Pain pills for psychic pain - Elvis » jono_in_adelaide, posted by brynb on January 27, 2013, at 7:12:15
I know this is totaly unrelated, but what you just said reminded me of when i started my first office job at about 20, one of the warehouse workers was an elvis impersonator in his spare time, and was realy into it, he had had all the costumes made etc........ thing was, the costumes were those of the young, fit elvis, but he had the body of the old, fat elvis and it didnt quite work haha
Keep well bryn, relief for you is out there somwhere, pease dont give up searching
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