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Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 10:00:20
In a quandry Seems that days just get more boring. Didn't take any lexapro and now today why do anything? Nothing gives me pleasure anymore. Rode to lake yesterday a Saturday routine. And was bored the whole time so said lets go home. And I'd had the lexapro night before. I used to have hope that things would change. Now don't have the energy to even try. My Dad was like this before he chose to die. Out of money and no pleasures in life.Since the back severly limits ability to now walk and socialize. I'm finding I serve little if no purpose in life. So if docs don't feel meds will help and that therapists won't what's left? Can't think of a think. Phillipa
Posted by gadchik on May 20, 2012, at 10:39:48
In reply to You Are Right I Think, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 10:00:20
p,has this feeling been building,or is it all of sudden that you feel this way? You have to remember what you get out of meds vs what bad things may or may not be true of them. Im in the same boat,in that I just dont know if I should stay on klonopin, start zoloft again,or what.I just wish there was one story about the meds,and it was that they are wonderful,healing,and provide refuge from suffering.
Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 12:04:40
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Phillipa, posted by gadchik on May 20, 2012, at 10:39:48
G it's been building the frustration and no clear cut answers. I do know where you are coming from I feel the same place. Don't want to seem out of line but I'm jelous you got off the zoloft. I was ignorant and trusting enough to let docs play Russian Roulette with me for many years. Letting them place fear in me. It all exploded as strange as this seems with the last summer illness of my cat. He made me look at mortality. I don't want to die on meds if I'm too weak to stop something that could who knows be the cause of all my physical problems. Or a contributing factor. I feel and always have I was born l0 years too early. As seem to always be out of sych with others both in real life and on here. I don't fear benzos in the least only would if was escalating the dose. I feel you desire to be off all but your klonopin dose you feel great and function well. As an old pdoc of mine said " if it ain't broke dont fix". Her meaning was if something is working let it be. Love P
Posted by Phil on May 20, 2012, at 12:13:42
In reply to You Are Right I Think, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 10:00:20
Mental illness is a bitch. We all have those times when nothing works. Nothing matters. Negative about future prospects. Some days the disease wins.
Posted by gadchik on May 20, 2012, at 13:22:34
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think, posted by Phil on May 20, 2012, at 12:13:42
I realized today just how much my husband "makes" my life,and I dont like feeling that.If he were to leave or die,I would crumble,I dont feel strong.I sometimes think of going back on zoloft so when the "worst" happens,I think it will save me.Maybe the drugs dont harm us,maybe they do,but I know our own thoughts and feelings can harm us.I still worry about the benzo,and its long term effects.I cant get off of it.I know it keeps me level though,and I dont sink so far down with it.P,I hope you feel better tomorrow.
Posted by TiredofChemicals on May 20, 2012, at 16:13:22
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » gadchik, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 12:04:40
So if docs don't feel meds will help and that therapists won't what's left?
^^^
That right there was how I felt at my lowest and actively suicidal. I felt abandoned. I realized that I had hit the end of the road as far as psychiatry.I have since developed a new attitude in regards to my mental health and psychiatry's "cookie cutter" diagnosis of my mental condition.
I am in a better place in regards to my overall, state of well being, than when I was in psychiatry's care.
Phooey! Like a hamster in a wheel is how I consider my ten years spent under the care of psychiatry.
I guess all I can add is, "Iv'e been in a similar situation as yours in regards to the frustration of mental health and the current state of treatment".
Regards
Posted by Dinah on May 20, 2012, at 20:08:46
In reply to You Are Right I Think, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 10:00:20
You say that how you feel has a lot to do with life circumstances. Are there any concrete ways to improve your life circumstances?
Medication is no substitute for making concrete changes to improve your life, although they can help some people in making those changes. As can therapy. Neither meds nor therapy are sufficient unto themselves.
Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 20:50:39
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on May 20, 2012, at 20:08:46
Well can't change my age, my physical conditions. Having trouble accepting all this. No answer that I see. I wish I could though. Phillipa
Posted by Twinleaf on May 20, 2012, at 21:37:01
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 20:50:39
It seems as though you are focussing on the negatives almost exclusively. You have many, many positives which you aren't focussing on. My T would call this "distorted thinking", and would feel that therapy can be a big help in viewing life in a more balanced way.
Posted by Dinah on May 20, 2012, at 22:11:09
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 20:50:39
Twinleaf is right. Therapy, used correctly, could be a help.
Your age won't change, at least not in the direction you want, but your attitude towards your age could change, or the emphasis you place on it. As an example.
Also, is there any way to increase the amount of contact you have with others? You seem to enjoy time spent with others online. Can you find some of that in person?
Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 22:50:17
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on May 20, 2012, at 22:11:09
Out Everyday To Stores, PT Excercise, Docs Visits Where Always Talk To Other Patients, Bike Riding And Know All The People In Three Neighborhoods I rided in. I can tell you all about each and every one of them some things even their close neighbors don't know. Must be the old psych nurse in me. I know all the pets and children's names and talk to them also well at least Hi Pupper. Talk to own neighbors also. I know what going on so I at one time was going to start a newsletter for the neighbor gossip. Phillipa
Posted by Twinleaf on May 21, 2012, at 6:46:17
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 22:50:17
The daily efforts you are making to interact positively with other people are major. But they don't seem to be helping you have peace of mind as much as they normally would. This is where therapy could really help.
Posted by Dinah on May 21, 2012, at 7:48:08
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2012, at 22:50:17
That's terrific! Didn't I remember that you had trouble going out alone? Maybe I had your story confused. Do you get any pleasure from those encounters?
You say that your mood is better or worse depending on your life circumstances. What life circumstances make it better? Have you given thought to mood charting or mood journaling so that you can better account for the changes?
Posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2012, at 21:01:23
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on May 21, 2012, at 7:48:08
I go out alone on bike riding for my interractions with those I know. For the car there is the problem I don't go out alone. Reason is that going out is for ebay purchases and he has the business credit card and the decisions of what to or not to buy are kind of mutual. We both have our favorite stuff. Where I will only sell new with tags stuff he also does but will get sale items. Mine are also sale but high dollar brands. I love Brighton. Best quality of any manufacturer in my opinion. And I'm adding back the lexapro tonight today was a huge bomb. I'm so sick of negative posts of meds and I'm guilty of some. Put a google in search engine and guaranteed to come up. Try it. Are ad's bad then are they good. Phillipa
Posted by burial on May 22, 2012, at 12:03:43
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think, posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2012, at 21:01:23
don't be so desperate, i won't tell you there are other people with similar issues as it wouldn't conform you anyway, but there are always some options available to improve any situation. California rocket fuel did wonders for me, as did lamictal. Regular bodybuilding/strength training will flood your body with endorphins and improve self esteem, therapy and psychology in general would give you and alternative view of your situations and choices. It may sound crazy, but i'm pretty sure i've read that occasional use of cannabis promotes neurogenesis, you may use it before going to bed to really sleep like a baby. Wellness is not easy, but i'm sure that it is achievable for anyone
Posted by Phillipa on May 22, 2012, at 21:29:19
In reply to Re: You Are Right I Think, posted by burial on May 22, 2012, at 12:03:43
I used to run and teach Aerobic Dancing and loved the high. Now at age 66 with severe degenerative spine issues and osteoporosis I am currently in PT and trying to get some pain relief. I ride bike 6 miles a night despite pain. I refuse to give up not in my nature. Being my age medicaire is insurance with united healthcare as supplemental. So only so much they will pay for. I see a pdoc who isn't inclined to use meds. Maybe because his specialty is addictions. Only other option her was a forensic pdoc. So I'm with the addictions. Unfortunately my old pdoc retired. Phillipa
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