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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 27, 2011, at 1:13:32
This isnt an urgent but I am very much considering with just going with no meds because they don't even work anyway and their a waste of money. If you don't my med combo yet its:
Prozac 60mg
Zyprexa 20mg
Wellbutrin 300mg
Clonodine .1mg X 3 dailyI don't think I am bipolar or manic or severely mentally ill that requires medication to stablize I do think I can do it without meds for a period of time until I can get on my feet start functioning everyday with coffee and maybe some beer once and while when I need it. I simply have a case with ADD and anxiety. The depression is always present and im going have to learn to not think in the dumps and severe periods when I'm depressed. I don't know if I'll go off meds but that's the plan if I move out on my own. It's so ridicouslous that my body has developed an immunity to meds and no matter how much I put in my body it resists it. I one time took 12 20mg of Prozac and nothing. I did this with Zyprexa and the only thing I realized it did was caused my vision to worsen. I took 80mg and nothing. It's just so crazy people!! I really wonder if I did some REAL drugs that change the way you feel like cocaine would even work. I've done cocaine once. It made me really confident for about 45min then pfff the withdrawl effect.
I do think I could do it. I need to talk to my doctor about this. I am going to tell her about Vivicial the next session but I have a feeling its not going to work either.
I really wonder if I could bit by a snake If my body with resist the venom.....
Posted by sleepygirl2 on November 27, 2011, at 9:55:27
In reply to Survival. Dealing without vital meds, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 27, 2011, at 1:13:32
Are you quite serious?
There are limits to what your body can take, even if you imagine otherwise.
Abuse stimulants and you will become psychotic.
Get bitten by a snake and you can die.
Take overdoses of your medication, and you can damage your organs and/or kill yourself.
Don't kid yourself.
Posted by sigismund on November 27, 2011, at 12:54:12
In reply to Re: Survival. Dealing without vital meds » rjlockhart04-08, posted by sleepygirl2 on November 27, 2011, at 9:55:27
Because you don't feel it, you think it is not doing anything. This is not so. It is just not doing anything you can notice. We notice less than we think. I would bet my bottom dollar those drugs are doing a shitload of things. If they are not doing any good things you can notice, there will likely be some bad things you don't.
Posted by Solstice on November 27, 2011, at 14:33:01
In reply to Re: Survival. Dealing without vital meds )RJL, posted by sigismund on November 27, 2011, at 12:54:12
> Because you don't feel it, you think it is not doing anything. This is not so. It is just not doing anything you can notice. We notice less than we think. I would bet my bottom dollar those drugs are doing a shitload of things. If they are not doing any good things you can notice, there will likely be some bad things you don't.
Sigi makes a really good point, Matt. For several different reasons, it genuinely might be a good idea to experiment with removing your meds. HOWEVER, it should be done under the watchful eye of your doctor, who likely will taper them down one at a time. Your family should also be involved in the process, because they will likely notice problems before you do (i.e. - mood & behavior setbacks). So I think it's worth discussing with your psychiatrist, but I think it would be a bad idea to try to take yourself off your meds on your own. You need someone to be looking out for you.Solstice
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 28, 2011, at 18:46:47
In reply to Survival. Dealing without vital meds, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 27, 2011, at 1:13:32
Well, I went in for psychological testing today and I talked wtih a psychologist about my situation. I said the medications where not working and I think I could do better without them. She said the same thing that you guys said that It may be that body has developed a tolerance and its hard too tell any effects of any of the medications. She told me it wasnt a good idea.
The reason I used the snake was because I was trying to show a point that anything I put into my body I resist it. It just like that. I don't know if I tried a stimulant if it would do anything. All my medications lost their effect. The Wellbutrin used to give me a boost of dopamine and it does NOTHING. My body just doesnt let it through the blood brain barrier.
Listen I know I sound a bit ridicolous about all this. But I really think if these medications are not doing anything then what would be the point of continue of all them. It would not be a big diffrence if I didnt take them. I don't really think I am going to go off meds because now that I think of it. Once my doctor is conviced by me to take me off its gonna be really HARD to convince her to put me back on meds. If I didnt have that situation I would go off them and see what happens.
I've been super depressed with the prozac and I really don't see the reason to continue it
Posted by Phidippus on November 30, 2011, at 20:40:36
In reply to Survival. Dealing without vital meds, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 27, 2011, at 1:13:32
You may just not be all the mentally ill. Try therapy.
Eric
Posted by bleauberry on December 1, 2011, at 15:23:19
In reply to Survival. Dealing without vital meds, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on November 27, 2011, at 1:13:32
Well, ritalin is sort of in the same arena as cocaine.
If you want to stop the meds I think there is a decent chance you can manage a new life without them but it would require a long careful weaning period. Considering the doses of prozac and especially zyprexa, if it were me I would probably be looking at about 3 months to get down to almost zero.
I believe the assistance of a handful of botanical medicines can help during the withdrawall/weaning, and during the med=free life. It shouldn't be surprising that sometimes that route works much better than the meds ever did because it happens. I think anyone with the kinds of longterm resistant symptoms we have require self learning all they can about plant medicines.
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