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Posted by Tepi on October 15, 2011, at 15:42:30
This Saturday Im not feeling as I was feeling before during the first days on Lyrica
Im on 150 mg daily , but Im not the same I was
I have read many bad histories about this drugs
Many people say bad things about it.
Do you think it is normal to have downs? I feel bad in this moment , Im alone in my house wondering why I stop having the response I had in the past
Maybe It was just a temporal response. I dont feel good guys , please give me and advice , what do you think?
Posted by Phillipa on October 15, 2011, at 19:05:31
In reply to I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by Tepi on October 15, 2011, at 15:42:30
I feel it's normal to have good and bad days. But how do you gauge your depression? Can you take more lyrica? Phillipa
Posted by hyperfocus on October 16, 2011, at 1:30:01
In reply to I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by Tepi on October 15, 2011, at 15:42:30
It's pretty common to have better and worse days. Recovery isn't a linear thing. Having a positive first response can indicate that a med will help you but it's impossible to tell. I'd say stick with the med for a full trial. After you've done a full trial you can think about increasing the dosage or adding something. Albeit Lyrica used for anxiety does tend to be effective initially but the response drops off. It's impossible to tell though, until you go through a full trial.
I know it sucks having to wait a couple of weeks for a drug to work. But the rationale is that there's no guarantee that you will feel better with stopping the med and starting another one. Hang in there tepi, I'm rooting for you.
One thing I wanted to know - do you get the intrusive when you're by yourself? Which symptom came first, if you can remember, the social phobia or intrusive thoughts or depression?
Posted by sigismund on October 16, 2011, at 6:24:37
In reply to I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by Tepi on October 15, 2011, at 15:42:30
It will only help you a bit, Tep.
Forget about recovery with Lyrica. Think instead that it can help you a little, especially when you need it.
A lot of life is just bloody awful. That's what I think anyway. I try not to get upset about it. When I do get too upset, I take something to calm me down. But, generally speaking, the less I take the better I feel.
You could increase the dose. But it may work less well after a time. And the side effects may become a problem for you.
Posted by Peter Heuer on October 17, 2011, at 10:00:40
In reply to I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by Tepi on October 15, 2011, at 15:42:30
Hi,
Perhaps you need to add another drug.
Have you tried Wellbutrin?Don't increase the dose of Lyrica!
Best regards,
Peter Heuer
Posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:17:23
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » Tepi, posted by Phillipa on October 15, 2011, at 19:05:31
> I feel it's normal to have good and bad days. But how do you gauge your depression? Can you take more lyrica? Phillipa
Hi Phillipa , its rare but I dont see more good days comings , Its been 3 days that Im not good.. maybe lyrica do stop working =(
Posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:21:57
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » Tepi, posted by hyperfocus on October 16, 2011, at 1:30:01
> I know it sucks having to wait a couple of weeks for a drug to work. But the rationale is that there's no guarantee that you will feel better with stopping the med and starting another one. Hang in there tepi, I'm rooting for you.
>
Thanks , I appreciate your support> One thing I wanted to know - do you get the intrusive when you're by yourself? Which symptom came first, if you can remember, the social phobia or intrusive thoughts or depression?
Sorry I dint understand your question very well.
But I have a bad feeling all the time ,Im thinking all the time that I should not be here , That Im sick , that was the thing that lyrica helped a little bit. I was more controled with that.
Then , in front of the people , I have intrusive thougths and after that the fear come to my mind
Posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:26:33
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » Tepi, posted by sigismund on October 16, 2011, at 6:24:37
> It will only help you a bit, Tep.
>
> Forget about recovery with Lyrica. Think instead that it can help you a little, especially when you need it.
>> A lot of life is just bloody awful. That's what I think anyway. I try not to get upset about it. When I do get too upset, I take something to calm me down. But, generally speaking, the less I take the better I feel.
>
> You could increase the dose. But it may work less well after a time. And the side effects may become a problem for you.
>
>
That is Sad and it frustrates me so much =(
I was feeling like if I have finally found something in my life.
Your are probably rigth Sigis
Posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:27:41
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by Peter Heuer on October 17, 2011, at 10:00:40
> Hi,
>
> Perhaps you need to add another drug.
> Have you tried Wellbutrin?
>
> Don't increase the dose of Lyrica!
>
> Best regards,
> Peter HeuerI also take Xanax 1.5mg and Valdoxa 25mg at nigth
Why you dont want me to increase the dose Peter?
Posted by SLS on October 18, 2011, at 5:12:20
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » hyperfocus, posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:21:57
> But I have a bad feeling all the time ,Im thinking all the time that I should not be here...
Tepi, the only thing that should not be here is the pain and suffering you experience from mental illness. These illnesses should not be here.
Keep the faith. You'll get there.
- Scott
Posted by Peter Heuer on October 18, 2011, at 6:11:02
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » Peter Heuer, posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:27:41
> > Hi,
> >
> > Perhaps you need to add another drug.
> > Have you tried Wellbutrin?
> >
> > Don't increase the dose of Lyrica!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Peter Heuer
>
> I also take Xanax 1.5mg and Valdoxa 25mg at nigth
>
> Why you dont want me to increase the dose Peter?
>Your body builds up a tolerance to Lyrica, so you don't gain anything by increasing the dose.
Peter Heuer
Posted by SLS on October 18, 2011, at 6:14:53
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by Peter Heuer on October 18, 2011, at 6:11:02
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Perhaps you need to add another drug.
> > > Have you tried Wellbutrin?
> > >
> > > Don't increase the dose of Lyrica!
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Peter Heuer
> >
> > I also take Xanax 1.5mg and Valdoxa 25mg at nigth
> >
> > Why you dont want me to increase the dose Peter?
> >
>
> Your body builds up a tolerance to Lyrica, so you don't gain anything by increasing the dose.Do you think this is also true of its effects to treat fibromyalgia?
- Scott
Posted by Peter Heuer on October 18, 2011, at 7:05:36
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » Peter Heuer, posted by SLS on October 18, 2011, at 6:14:53
Hi,
I don't know about Lyrica and fibromyalgia, but I do know about Lyrica and sleep.
I don't gain anything by increasing the dose from 50 mg to 100 mg.
My body gets used to the drug. I don't sleep better on the higher dose.
Best regards,
Peter Heuer
Posted by sigismund on October 18, 2011, at 8:23:04
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by Peter Heuer on October 18, 2011, at 6:11:02
Tep, how have you been finding Valdoxan?
Posted by Tepi on October 18, 2011, at 21:07:44
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by sigismund on October 18, 2011, at 8:23:04
> Tep, how have you been finding Valdoxan?
I really cant tell you something about it . I havent felt anything.... Im taking 25 mg at nigth... maybe its a low dose.
This drug is so expensinve oh my god . I dont know if I should keep taking it
Posted by sigismund on October 19, 2011, at 2:30:13
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » sigismund, posted by Tepi on October 18, 2011, at 21:07:44
I don't think more than 25mg is necessarily better.
I loved it in the beginning. I felt calmer and I had more energy when I was awake. Later the sleep enhancing aspect of it faded, but the sense of stimulation has not. I find now (this is after a few years) that it is better to take it in the middle of the night when I awake, to avoid more sleep disturbance.
The only adverse effect I suffered from in the beginning at 25mg was a strange form of almost physical anxiety, mainly felt in the afternoons.
Posted by hyperfocus on October 21, 2011, at 3:08:19
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » hyperfocus, posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:21:57
What I meant was when you were younger did you have anxiety around people as like he first bad thing you experienced? Like you were always just very shy? But later is when the intrusive thoughts began?
For me I had extreme shyness leading to paranoia and fear of people and being in public as the first bad thing I felt when I was younger and I got bullied a lot. Then I started to become depressed as the social anxiety went on for a long time. Then I started to get the dissociation - where I started feeling like I wasn't connected to my body and I started having these intrusive thoughts. I felt like there were like multiple voices or multiple sources of thinking in my head. It's a hard to describe but it was like the fear and negative thoughts about myself became a 2nd thing or 2nd person. Do you ever feel like this? Untreated anxiety can lead to dissociation. If you have dissociation then you will have to find a drug that can treat that. Some of the drugs used for PTSD like amitriptyline and sulpiride might be effective for you. Did you ever ask your doctor about these two drugs?
Posted by sigismund on October 21, 2011, at 7:54:23
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » Tepi, posted by hyperfocus on October 21, 2011, at 3:08:19
>If you have dissociation then you will have to find a drug that can treat that.
I've only ever heard of drugs to treat emotional states associated with the depersonalisation, like the anxiety or depression, but not the depersonalisation itself. I wonder if any and all drugs aggravate depersonalisation.
That was an evocative description of the whole ramifying sorry business.
Posted by floatingbridge on October 21, 2011, at 20:33:24
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » hyperfocus, posted by Tepi on October 17, 2011, at 22:21:57
>
> Sorry I dint understand your question very well.
> But I have a bad feeling all the time ,Im thinking all the time that I should not be here , That Im sick , that was the thing that lyrica helped a little bit. I was more controled with that.
> Then , in front of the people , I have intrusive thougths and after that the fear come to my mind
>
>
>Tepi,
Has something about your thoughts changed? Or are your thoughts the usual sort you have experienced before and it's that the Lyrica hasn't worked in days to help?
Posted by Tepi on October 24, 2011, at 18:27:28
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica?, posted by floatingbridge on October 21, 2011, at 20:33:24
> >
>
> Tepi,
> Has something about your thoughts changed? Or are your thoughts the usual sort you have experienced before and it's that the Lyrica hasn't worked in days to help?
>Well no , my bad thougths are the same all the time . They have not changed anything , they dissapeared a little bit when I started lyrica but then again they are all here with me.
Posted by floatingbridge on October 25, 2011, at 21:12:38
In reply to Re: I feel rare - Should I be afraid of Lyrica? » floatingbridge, posted by Tepi on October 24, 2011, at 18:27:28
Oh. I'm sorry to hear this, Tepi. It seems to not worked as well as neurontin for you. At least, it did not last as long.
What do you think you might do?
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