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Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi

Posted by SLS on October 4, 2011, at 6:23:13

In reply to Lyrica - social phobia, posted by Tepi on October 3, 2011, at 23:36:58

Hi.

> Im taking 150mg daily in the morning . Maybe increasing to a higher dose
>
> How would you take it? 150mg morning and 150 mg afternoon
>
> Please help me , I dont know if I should split my dose or I should take 300mg in the morning
>
> Sorry I havent been here on the webpage,I miss you all
> Any comment, question or suggestion is well received
> Tepi

How did you react to Nardil? What dosage? What other drugs did you take with it?


- Scott


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From: http://www.rxlist.com


DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION

LYRICA is given orally with or without food. When discontinuing LYRICA, taper gradually over a minimum of 1 week.
Neuropathic pain associated with diabetic peripheral neuropathy

The maximum recommended dose of LYRICA is 100 mg three times a day (300 mg/day) in patients with creatinine clearance of at least 60 mL/min. Begin dosing at 50 mg three times a day (150 mg/day). The dose may be increased to 300 mg/day within 1 week based on efficacy and tolerability. Because LYRICA is eliminated primarily by renal excretion, adjust the dose in patients with reduced renal function.

Although LYRICA was also studied at 600 mg/day, there is no evidence that this dose confers additional significant benefit and this dose was less well tolerated. In view of the dose-dependent adverse reactions, treatment with doses above 300 mg/day is not recommended [see ADVERSE REACTIONS].
Postherpetic neuralgia

The recommended dose of LYRICA is 75 to 150 mg two times a day, or 50 to 100 mg three times a day (150 to 300 mg/day) in patients with creatinine clearance of at least 60 mL/min. Begin dosing at 75 mg two times a day, or 50 mg three times a day (150 mg/day). The dose may be increased to 300 mg/day within 1 week based on efficacy and tolerability. Because LYRICA is eliminated primarily by renal excretion, adjust the dose in patients with reduced renal function.

Patients who do not experience sufficient pain relief following 2 to 4 weeks of treatment with 300 mg/day, and who are able to tolerate LYRICA, may be treated with up to 300 mg two times a day, or 200 mg three times a day (600 mg/day). In view of the dose-dependent adverse reactions and the higher rate of treatment discontinuation due to adverse reactions, reserve dosing above 300 mg/day for those patients who have on-going pain and are tolerating 300 mg daily [see ADVERSE REACTIONS].
Adjunctive therapy for adult patients with partial onset seizures

LYRICA at doses of 150 to 600 mg/day has been shown to be effective as adjunctive therapy in the treatment of partial onset seizures in adults. Both the efficacy and adverse event profiles of LYRICA have been shown to be dose-related. Administer the total daily dose in two or three divided doses. In general, it is recommended that patients be started on a total daily dose no greater than 150 mg/day (75 mg two times a day, or 50 mg three times a day). Based on individual patient response and tolerability, the dose may be increased to a maximum dose of 600 mg/day.

Because LYRICA is eliminated primarily by renal excretion, adjust the dose in patients with reduced renal function.

The effect of dose escalation rate on the tolerability of LYRICA has not been formally studied.

The efficacy of add-on LYRICA in patients taking gabapentin has not been evaluated in controlled trials. Consequently, dosing recommendations for the use of LYRICA with gabapentin cannot be offered.
Management of Fibromyalgia

The recommended dose of LYRICA for fibromyalgia is 300 to 450 mg/day. Begin dosing at 75 mg two times a day (150 mg/day). The dose may be increased to 150 mg two times a day (300 mg/day) within 1 week based on efficacy and tolerability. Patients who do not experience sufficient benefit with 300 mg/day may be further increased to 225 mg two times a day (450 mg/day). Although LYRICA was also studied at 600 mg/day, there is no evidence that this dose confers additional benefit and this dose was less well tolerated. In view of the dose-dependent adverse reactions, treatment with doses above 450 mg/day is not recommended [see ADVERSE REACTIONS]. Because LYRICA is eliminated primarily by renal excretion, adjust the dose in patients with reduced renal function.

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia

Posted by ger man on October 4, 2011, at 7:33:18

In reply to Lyrica - social phobia, posted by Tepi on October 3, 2011, at 23:36:58

> Im taking 150mg daily in the morning . Maybe increasing to a higher dose
>
> How would you take it? 150mg morning and 150 mg afternoon
>
> Please help me , I dont know if I should split my dose or I should take 300mg in the morning
>
> Sorry I havent been here on the webpage,I miss you all
> Any comment, question or suggestion is well received
> Tepi

I took 150 in the morning and 150 in the evening. Beware of your kidneys, when i took it my kidney values (glomerule filtration rate) became dramatically low so i had to go off it. I was lucky and after one months i recovered. Regarding its effects on anxiety i cann tell you that it was ok in alleviating physical symptoms of anxiety but it was innefective to annihilate my psychic anxiety. Aside from it marginal positive effects it exacebrated my slight depression to a state in which it was impssible to go out and/or talk to people. In me it was completely counterproductive in managing social deficits. I hope it will be better in you. By the way, here in germany it became more and more prominent in treating all kinds of anxiety symptoms so there must be many positive experiences with it.

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » ger man

Posted by Phillipa on October 4, 2011, at 11:01:07

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia, posted by ger man on October 4, 2011, at 7:33:18

Lyrica effects the kidneys? Didn't know that. Phillipa

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi

Posted by Phillipa on October 4, 2011, at 11:01:49

In reply to Lyrica - social phobia, posted by Tepi on October 3, 2011, at 23:36:58

Tepi miss you. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia

Posted by ger man on October 4, 2011, at 11:34:25

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » ger man, posted by Phillipa on October 4, 2011, at 11:01:07

> Lyrica effects the kidneys? Didn't know that. Phillipa

Its eleminated unmetabolized by the kidneys and as it is an foreign molecule for the body it can cause harm to some folks!

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » ger man

Posted by SLS on October 4, 2011, at 15:26:40

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia, posted by ger man on October 4, 2011, at 11:34:25

> > Lyrica effects the kidneys? Didn't know that. Phillipa
>
> Its eleminated unmetabolized by the kidneys and as it is an foreign molecule for the body it can cause harm to some folks!

Might you be able to direct us to the source of information that you used?

Thanks.


- Scott

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia

Posted by ger man on October 4, 2011, at 16:21:49

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » ger man, posted by SLS on October 4, 2011, at 15:26:40

> > > Lyrica effects the kidneys? Didn't know that. Phillipa
> >
> > Its eleminated unmetabolized by the kidneys and as it is an foreign molecule for the body it can cause harm to some folks!
>
> Might you be able to direct us to the source of information that you used?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> - Scott

You can read it at Wikipedia (Search for Pregabalin) or in the instruction leaflet...at least in the german version that i used! I had problems with my kidney values on it, but i dont think this affects too many!

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » ger man

Posted by SLS on October 4, 2011, at 18:00:36

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia, posted by ger man on October 4, 2011, at 16:21:49

> You can read it at Wikipedia (Search for Pregabalin) or in the instruction leaflet...at least in the german version that i used! I had problems with my kidney values on it, but i dont think this affects too many!

Thanks.

I found more information on RxList. As you said, it occurs infrequently.


- Scott

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Tepi on October 4, 2011, at 19:26:20

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi, posted by SLS on October 4, 2011, at 6:23:13

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> How did you react to Nardil? What dosage? What other drugs did you take with it?
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>
> - Scott
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Hi Scott . My 8 years experience with nardil was little good. I never get to the state in wich I could be calm. I always was feeling that my life needed something else and that I dint want to live like that the rest of it . I combined Nardil with some drugs like APs (Seroquel, Geodon , Risperdal ) Benzos ( Xanax , Klonopin and other)
Mood stabilizers , Epival XR, Fish oil , and other thing.
the only "mistake If I can say that is that I never reach the 90mg. But Im sure that would have not make any difference
The fear was there, the intrusive thougths were still there.
My life was not life

Tepi

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi

Posted by SLS on October 4, 2011, at 21:18:26

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS, posted by Tepi on October 4, 2011, at 19:26:20

Hi Tepi.

Thanks for describing your experiences with Nardil. You certainly tried some good combinations.

What condition are you treating? Can you describe what you experience as illness?


> > How did you react to Nardil? What dosage? What other drugs did you take with it?
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> >
> Hi Scott . My 8 years experience with nardil was little good. I never get to the state in wich I could be calm. I always was feeling that my life needed something else and that I dint want to live like that the rest of it . I combined Nardil with some drugs like APs (Seroquel, Geodon , Risperdal ) Benzos ( Xanax , Klonopin and other)
> Mood stabilizers , Epival XR, Fish oil , and other thing.
> the only "mistake If I can say that is that I never reach the 90mg. But Im sure that would have not make any difference
> The fear was there, the intrusive thougths were still there.
> My life was not life
>
> Tepi

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi

Posted by floatingbridge on October 5, 2011, at 1:00:49

In reply to Lyrica - social phobia, posted by Tepi on October 3, 2011, at 23:36:58

Hey Tepi,

I took it 2x daily, then 3x daily. Good luck! Will you let us know how it goes?

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » floatingbridge

Posted by Tepi on October 5, 2011, at 18:43:06

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi, posted by floatingbridge on October 5, 2011, at 1:00:49

> Hey Tepi,
>
> I took it 2x daily, then 3x daily. Good luck! Will you let us know how it goes?


Why did you stop it float?
Sure I will let you know how it goes...

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Tepi on October 5, 2011, at 18:57:20

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi, posted by SLS on October 4, 2011, at 21:18:26


>
> What condition are you treating? Can you describe what you experience as illness?
>
>
The PDoc that ha evaluated me with more calm says I suffer from a schizoaphective disorder . Others doctors just simply dont know. I suffered from depression and mild psychotic disorders which are control to a 50%
The worst of all is Social Phobia , terrible. My mind its always busy thinking how sick I am , so these are destrcutive thougths and Im thinking all the time to hurt myself
I Live in others people mind, Im so worried about what the could think about me so when Im in a group or even in front of only 1 person Im so scared thinking that they are thinking bad things about me.
My intelligence tells me that that isnt true but my heart and my feelings tells me the opposite so at the end I end up feeling so bad, terrible .
So basically Im alone and maybe I will die alone, I cant interact with nobody , not even with my parents , Im not in good mood and Im not prosocial. How to live in that way?
Example
I saw this guy walking on the street (about six meters away), and he reminded me of someone I know as a friend . In these situations It always happend the same, I think , Don´t look at me! Is it him? I can´t look at him... Oh no he has seen me... Was it my "friend"? Sh*t, what if it was? Dammit, now I must go and talk to him and act nice.... Those kind of strange things would occur


 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi

Posted by Phillipa on October 5, 2011, at 19:05:41

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS, posted by Tepi on October 5, 2011, at 18:57:20

Tepi please never hurt yourself as I know what a good person you are. I know the feeling of avoiding people. Was thinking when I was a young Mother I would go to the store and if saw someone I knew avoid them as didn't want to talk. Strangely that went away and I became the opposite? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi

Posted by SLS on October 5, 2011, at 22:57:07

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS, posted by Tepi on October 5, 2011, at 18:57:20

Hi Tepi.

You did a great job of describing your situation. I was struck by your candor and honesty for letting the community know your innermost thoughts and feelings. It will help people to give you more targeted feedback and suggestions.

I am going to take some time to think about how to respond to your post. In the meantime, perhaps you can provide some details as to your history of psychotherapy and how it has helped or hurt you.

You will be okay as long as you continue to be honest with yourself and others. There is hope for you. I think you can build a mind that will allow you to live a life with less pain and more joy. You have a great deal of intelligence that can be redirected to focus on tackling the challenges that exist in your world. This will not be easy work, but you are capable of positive and constructive thoughts and feelings.

You are not alone in having the type of problematic thoughts and feelings that you describe. I can remember having them myself in my younger years. You can learn new ways of thinking to replace the old ones. You need some guidance, though. You took a risk in sharing your experiences with others. You might also need to take risks in psychotherapy in order to effect healthy change.

How do you know that you are depressed? Do you think your condition rises to the level of Major Depressive Disorder?

How do you know that you have psychotic thoughts? Do they rise to the level of being schizoid?

http://www.mentalhealth.com/

Look at the Disorders section. Without attempting to diagnose yourself, take a look at how many psychobiological condition exist and what their symptoms are. I have my doubts that your schizoaffective disorder diagnosis is accurate. Do you think it is? Why?

- Scott


> > What condition are you treating? Can you describe what you experience as illness?

> The PDoc that ha evaluated me with more calm says I suffer from a schizoaphective disorder . Others doctors just simply dont know. I suffered from depression and mild psychotic disorders which are control to a 50%
>
> The worst of all is Social Phobia , terrible. My mind its always busy thinking how sick I am , so these are destrcutive thougths and Im thinking all the time to hurt myself
>
> I Live in others people mind, Im so worried about what the could think about me so when Im in a group or even in front of only 1 person Im so scared thinking that they are thinking bad things about me.
>
> My intelligence tells me that that isnt true but my heart and my feelings tells me the opposite so at the end I end up feeling so bad, terrible .
>
> So basically Im alone and maybe I will die alone, I cant interact with nobody , not even with my parents , Im not in good mood and Im not prosocial. How to live in that way?
>
> Example
> I saw this guy walking on the street (about six meters away), and he reminded me of someone I know as a friend . In these situations It always happend the same, I think , Don´t look at me! Is it him? I can´t look at him... Oh no he has seen me... Was it my "friend"? Sh*t, what if it was? Dammit, now I must go and talk to him and act nice.... Those kind of strange things would occur

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Tepi on October 9, 2011, at 1:27:02

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi, posted by SLS on October 5, 2011, at 22:57:07

> I am going to take some time to think about how to respond to your post. In the meantime, perhaps you can provide some details as to your history of psychotherapy and how it has helped or hurt you.
>

You are welcome Scott. My psychoterapy history its obviously very long. I started when I was 16 yers old taking SSRIS, Tryciclics, some conventionals AP like Haldol ,benzos, but nothing helped me those years . I was so bad , in those days I had 2 failed suicide attempts. I left all my meds when I enter collegue but I was so bad I kept looking more help. The atypical AP zyprexa was the first med tha made me feel a change , then I change to Seroquel wich was better because I didnt have weigth gain. Anyway my life was a mess . So I tried all the new drugs in those years , welbutrin , more benzos , my old doc give me more coventionals AP like fluanxol wich provoked akaticia , then he gave me more combos mostly SSRIS + AP(all kinds)or SRNIs + AP
Then it came the Nardil Era and all the combinations I did with it . So here Iam 16 years later still looking for a better quality of life


> You will be okay as long as you continue to be
>
> How do you know that you are depressed? Do you think your condition rises to the level of Major Depressive Disorder?
>


Honestly I dont know If Im still depressed . In my teenage years I remember being in my bed crying after highschool and avoiding all social contact.
Im not that bad in this moment but I really has no desire of doing things . I just wacth tv , and even that is boring for me . No jobbies in my life
Who knows if this is a real depression , maybe this is the real life


> How do you know that you have psychotic thoughts? Do they rise to the level of being schizoid?
>

Maybe I had some psychotic thougths in high school . I remember I was very popular and I had a lot of friends . Then I started to think that one of my best friends was making a complot against me , like if he wanted to put everybody versus me . So I was convinced he was trying to take me away from the group so I started to stop talking to the people and I start to look for different friends, those wich were not on his side. A little later I had no abilities to make friends and I was so scare of the entire highschool


> http://www.mentalhealth.com/
>
> Look at the Disorders section. Without attempting to diagnose yourself, take a look at how many psychobiological condition exist and what their symptoms are. I have my doubts that your schizoaffective disorder diagnosis is accurate. Do you think it is? Why?
>
> >
Honestly I would like to know what the hell is this . Maybe I have that but it is not only that. Schizoaffective disorder would not be the entire disease , My doctor never mention anything about the social phobia and that is the worst thing of all
The truth is that no med has been able to tell me exactly what is this , they just prescibe drugs and more drugs
So here I am , life is going on

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi

Posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 5:45:09

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS, posted by Tepi on October 9, 2011, at 1:27:02

Tepi, what about psychotherapy - "talk therapy"?

For me, the social phobia was at its worst between the ages of 17-20 while I was in high school and college. It got appreciably better through psychotherapy. However, only the addition of medication made it disappear entirely. Still, the psychotherapy was integral in the resolution of social anxiety.

Thanks for continuing to share your experiences.

How did Paxil treat you?


- Scott

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Chairman_MAO on October 9, 2011, at 8:08:33

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi, posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 5:45:09

I have a certain baseline level of "social phobia", agoraphobia, and anxiety that never goes away regardless of medication. It definitely intensified during high school and even moreso in college. I have had medication-free periods since then, and I always revert back to the same state. It seems quite visceral, and the only thing that puts a dent in it is MAOI drugs and clonazepam. Most recently, I stopped Nardil after being on it for five years (dropped out of treatment, hoped I could do without anything) and while perhaps my social anxiety had improved over how it was in high school and college, it hadn't improved by much. I've been this way since birth.

Clonazepam's effectiveness seems to wane after several months, though it is still effective. I wish I never got on it, though, because now that I'm back with my old pdoc after years of not being able to see him (the one that used to do the MAOI + psychostimulant combination), he wants me off of cloanazepam. He gave me Viibryd to try. The only reason I took it is because if the level of trust and respect I have for this guy and because I had never tried it before. It did what all SSRIs do to me: give me tardive akathisia and increase anxiety. On top of that, I had profound GI upset and felt a sense of general malaise. I could not go longer than ten days to find out if that would change because it was so incredibly dysphoric. I hope he is not upset with me for not being "compliant", but I just couldn't do it. I left a telephone message for him explaining how I felt, and he never called me back. I'm probably overreacting, but I have very limited choices in who can be my doctor and there is no one I have access to who is anywhere near as good as this guy is.

Perhaps it had been a long time and I did not clearly enough articulate what I wanted the MAOI back _for_. I am dysthymic, but dextroamphetamine takes care of that just fine. My primary issues are ADD and social phobia/anxiety, and they seem to go hand-in-hand.

It would be so much easier if I were one of those people who SSRIs helped, but they tend to make me worse. Even when they have helped, it is at a cost of worsening my problems with attention, focus, and motivation.

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Chairman_MAO

Posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 8:26:29

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS, posted by Chairman_MAO on October 9, 2011, at 8:08:33

Hi C_M.

You really have had your share of pain and frustration. I hope there is something out there for you.

Did you use the titration starter pack for Viibryd

It is not advisable to start at 40mg. A gradual titration would probably prevent the GI stuff. However, I don't know if it would avoid the dysphoria. I wouldn't think so, but that is an unsubstantiated guess. Anxiety will probably be shown to be a common startup side effect that subsides within the first month.

Keep looking.


- Scott

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Chairman_MAO on October 9, 2011, at 8:41:45

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Chairman_MAO, posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 8:26:29

Yeah, I got the titration pack. I could not even make it past 10mg--and I am on clonazepam! I went an extra 3 days cutting the pills in half, but I just couldn't handle it. I felt like I was on the verge of having a panic attack throughout much of the day toward the end.

If I had started at 40mg, I might have ended up in the hospital or had a relapse (of substance abuse).

SSRIs also ruin the effectiveness of my ADD medication (Dexedrine). There is something out there for me: MAOIs. I am kicking myself for having gone off of Nardil, because had I remained on it, he probably would've just put me back on the Dexedrine with the Nardil. I don't know how to explain to him exactly how detrimental SSRIs have been, because it is a miracle that this guy is trusting me again and I want so badly to be "compliant".

For me, SSRIs induce "tardive akathisia" that never completely goes away. My vilazodone experience was just the worst I've ever had. I probably would have adjusted to it somewhat, but the end result with SSRIs is usually just emotional blunting and enjoying alcohol _a lot_ whereas I usually don't.

Given that I am just earning his trust back with regard to giving me the Dexedrine, I am scared to death to tell him that taking it made me want to "self-medicate" the dysphoria away.

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Chairman_MAO

Posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 8:51:31

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS, posted by Chairman_MAO on October 9, 2011, at 8:41:45

> Yeah, I got the titration pack. I could not even make it past 10mg--and I am on clonazepam! I went an extra 3 days cutting the pills in half, but I just couldn't handle it. I felt like I was on the verge of having a panic attack throughout much of the day toward the end.
>
> If I had started at 40mg, I might have ended up in the hospital or had a relapse (of substance abuse).
>
> SSRIs also ruin the effectiveness of my ADD medication (Dexedrine). There is something out there for me: MAOIs. I am kicking myself for having gone off of Nardil, because had I remained on it, he probably would've just put me back on the Dexedrine with the Nardil. I don't know how to explain to him exactly how detrimental SSRIs have been, because it is a miracle that this guy is trusting me again and I want so badly to be "compliant".
>
> For me, SSRIs induce "tardive akathisia" that never completely goes away. My vilazodone experience was just the worst I've ever had. I probably would have adjusted to it somewhat, but the end result with SSRIs is usually just emotional blunting and enjoying alcohol _a lot_ whereas I usually don't.
>
> Given that I am just earning his trust back with regard to giving me the Dexedrine, I am scared to death to tell him that taking it made me want to "self-medicate" the dysphoria away.


Out of curiosity, have you ever tried buspirone? It is a partial agonist at the serotonin 5-HT1a receptor without being a SRI. You could add it to a MAOI if you don't want to try it right now.

Well, I really can't impart anything else to you at this juncture but to wish you luck with Nardil and amphetamine.

Best wishes.


- Scott

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Chairman_MAO on October 9, 2011, at 9:41:01

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Chairman_MAO, posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 8:51:31

I have tried buspirone, with and without an SSRI, up to 90mg/day. It was an active placebo. The only thing I got out of it was "brain zaps" every now and then.

Thus, I was not enthusiastic about vilazodone, but I had to try it because he gave it to me and this guy is the best I'm going to get. It was only my trust in him that made me even bother with _yet another_ SSRI--it _could_ have been different.

If I take an MAOI, I have no need for buspirone. In fact, with Nardil, I'd have no need for clonazepam either. IMHO it actually works better long-term for social phobia. I gained 50% of my body weight on it. Were I to go on it again, I would have to adhere religiously to a low-carb diet.

Tranylcypromine is good, too, but I already have Dexedrine (and so I really just want an MAOI, I don't need the extra effects of tranylcypromine) and the insomnia was extreme. I also did not like the short half-life of the parent drug and how its amphetamine-like metabolites would peak later in the day--it felt like up-down-up-down-up-down every day.

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Tepi on October 9, 2011, at 19:49:06

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi, posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 5:45:09

> Tepi, what about psychotherapy - "talk therapy"?
>
mmm I have tried some of it , but Ive gained nothing... Im not saying psychoterapy is bad, maybe I havent found a good therapist. Ive heard CBT is the one for social phobia .I dont know if its vailable here in Mexico

> For me, the social phobia was at its worst between the ages of 17-20 while I was in high school and college. It got appreciably better through psychotherapy. However, only the addition of medication made it disappear entirely. Still, the psychotherapy was integral in the resolution of social anxiety.
>
> Thanks for continuing to share your experiences.
>
> How did Paxil treat you?
>
>

Paxil did nothing for me , I tried it in the very beginning of my disease but nothing happened, like if I was taking candies those days . Zoloft help me a little bit in the second trial , that was in the years of Zyprexa

> - Scott

Thansk Scott

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS

Posted by Solstice on October 10, 2011, at 2:13:15

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Tepi, posted by SLS on October 9, 2011, at 5:45:09


> For me, the social phobia was at its worst between the ages of 17-20 while I was in high school and college. It got appreciably better through psychotherapy. However, only the addition of medication made it disappear entirely.

Scott - what medication was it that was so effective in addressing your social phobia?

Solstice

 

Re: Lyrica - social phobia » Solstice

Posted by SLS on October 11, 2011, at 22:57:35

In reply to Re: Lyrica - social phobia » SLS, posted by Solstice on October 10, 2011, at 2:13:15

Hi Solstice.

I apologize for not replying to your post sooner.

> > For me, the social phobia was at its worst between the ages of 17-20 while I was in high school and college. It got appreciably better through psychotherapy. However, only the addition of medication made it disappear entirely.

> Scott - what medication was it that was so effective in addressing your social phobia?

Hmm. That is an interesting question. For the most part, I found that my social anxiety remitted as my depression remitted, regardless of the drugs used. The combination of Parnate and desipramine allowed me to live without social anxiety, so long as I continued to attend to the residual psychological issues that contributed to it. I found Nardil to not only be "anti-social-anxiety", but also "pro-social". I think it made me hypersocial. If one is not careful, one can conclude that it is this hypersocial state that is what they should be searching for as a cure to their anxiety disorder.


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