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Posted by pedr on November 12, 2010, at 23:42:00
Hi,
for those who aren't aware, there's been a lot of interest recently in the use of hallucinogens for treating depression. Studies have reported "super-accelerated psychotherapy"-like effects of just a single dose of MDMA, Ketamine and LSD. It's as if it allows the sufferer to see their issues from a previously-unreachable angle or viewpoint, and once they "get it", they improve dramatically.Anyway, here's the article:
http://health.howstuffworks.com/medicine/tests-treatment/mental-illness-hallucinogens.htmand here's an excellent (and humorous) podcast of the same (How Stuff Works) :
http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/stuff-you-should-know/id278981407BTW I am in no way recommending or suggesting that anyone goes out and gets loaded on these drugs! But, who knows - in 5 or so years they could be the first line treatment for depression...
Pete
Posted by Phillipa on November 13, 2010, at 10:18:50
In reply to Hallucinogens for depression, posted by pedr on November 12, 2010, at 23:42:00
Ive read of the studies in particular the one of Ketamine IV given I think it was for bipolar and boy I sure could be wrong. I haven't read you links yet. Thanks for posting Phillipa
Posted by sigismund on November 13, 2010, at 17:09:33
In reply to Hallucinogens for depression, posted by pedr on November 12, 2010, at 23:42:00
Lowering oneself deep into the great maze where all things are intermixed, it can be a revelation when consciousness and perception are felt to be blissful and independently arising, with nothing to gain or lose.
It was for me, anyway. Dosage is critical.
Posted by pedr on November 13, 2010, at 22:15:38
In reply to Re: Hallucinogens for depression, posted by sigismund on November 13, 2010, at 17:09:33
> Lowering oneself deep into the great maze where all things are intermixed, it can be a revelation when consciousness and perception are felt to be blissful and independently arising, with nothing to gain or lose.
>
> It was for me, anyway. Dosage is critical.
>Do you have depression? Did you gain any helpful insights whilst... ummm... intoxicated?
Posted by sigismund on November 13, 2010, at 23:59:19
In reply to Re: Hallucinogens for depression » sigismund, posted by pedr on November 13, 2010, at 22:15:38
> Did you gain any helpful insights whilst... ummm... intoxicated?
Maybe not insights. It's more feelings, I think. Well, what I meant by independent arising is a kind of insight.
I wonder if that is what is meant by Sat Chit Ananda (or whatever it is), or by phrases such as 'the unconditioned'.Years ago there was a line in a Grateful Dead song that referred to it
'Let it be known there is a fountain that was not made by the hands of men'.
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