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Posted by linkadge on October 8, 2010, at 15:03:08
So, I keep all my left over medications, and sometimes I try small experiments using past medications.
I know its "wrong", but it happens and sometimes people come across something that works.
Do people have experience with this, where you maybe added a bit of an older prescription and it seems to work? Share your thoughts.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2010, at 15:30:29
In reply to Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by linkadge on October 8, 2010, at 15:03:08
Got a boatload of old meds would love to hear of some combos that work. All SSRI's full bottle of cymbalta, full bottle remerons, almost every one including sample box of EMSAM. Phillipa
Posted by Coyote01 on October 8, 2010, at 15:54:17
In reply to Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by linkadge on October 8, 2010, at 15:03:08
Yeah, I've done that a bunch of times. I've thrown away a bunch of meds. Others, that were at least partially successful, I've kept.
I actually just did that yesterday and today by adding some old Serzone I had with my Wellbutrin and Remeron.
I'll tell my doc I have done it. I've got another week til next appointment, so by then, I'll know whether feeling good on day one of that experiment was a flash in the pan or not. I'm sure he'll not be overly pleased that I do things like that, but I've tried practically everything, so if I happen upon something that works, I'll push for it.
Of course, you always run the risk of your doc getting PO'd and dropping you (that's never happened to me).
So much of trying meds is a hope and a prayer anyway, as each of our systems is unique. If a med combo, or cocktail at least makes sense theoretically, and there's little to no risk mixing the meds you're trying, I see little harm in trying various things together, particularly if you've already tried a great many of these things as monotherapy.
Anyway, good luck to you. Hope your doctor is understanding.
Posted by Maxime on October 8, 2010, at 18:32:32
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » linkadge, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2010, at 15:30:29
Phillipa, I think you should bring all your extra meds to the pharmacy so that they can dispose of them properly. Why are hanging on to them?
Posted by Maxime on October 8, 2010, at 18:34:35
In reply to Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by linkadge on October 8, 2010, at 15:03:08
No, I don't experiment and I don't keep old meds. Well, to be honest I have two meds tucked away in a drawer in case I have to OD.
Wouldn't it be better to ask your psychiatrist first and do it?
Posted by weatherfreak on October 8, 2010, at 18:34:53
In reply to Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by linkadge on October 8, 2010, at 15:03:08
Since I decided to stop taking bupropion as it's made me super tense and I've already cracked one tooth on it that got infected and had to be pulled out.
I do need stimulating meds, ritalin was perfect for me until it pooped out, I've also just found out that 2 of my neck vertebrae have fused together and the muscle tension from 5 weeks of bupropion made it so much worse. I suppose they never would have found it if I hadn't tried it.
Anyhoo, I found an old pack of modafinil, that in conjunction with oxycodone and clonazepam seems to be quite good. It's only been a few days so far but when I see my doc next I'm going to ask him if I can try ritalin again as it relaxes me unlike bupropion did. That is one very stimulating drug and not good for my neck tension. Modafinil also make me a little tense so I'll see if I can get back on ritalin until I get the full results back from my MRI.
I wasn't on ritalin with oxycodone and I think it would be great, I'd also like to try neurontin or lyrica. I'll have to see what the neurosurgeon says, if I ever get in to see one!
Posted by morgan miller on October 8, 2010, at 19:06:06
In reply to Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by linkadge on October 8, 2010, at 15:03:08
If I had extra Zoloft sitting around I may have switched to it from Prozac. Instead, I stopped Prozac and bought some Serofin by New Chapter's. I've been on Serofin 2 days and off Prozac for 5.
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2010, at 20:02:54
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on October 8, 2010, at 18:32:32
Maxie simple with this health care plan and lack of funds for meds just might need them someday. My pdoc also prescribes larger doses of meds I take so I can stash them. She believes in saving money hence she is on pristiq as it's free from RX reps. And the meds don't go bad only antibiotics. Self preservation. Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on October 9, 2010, at 16:28:56
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2010, at 20:02:54
Well I would be in big trouble if my psychiatrist prescribed large amount of meds so that I stash them. Because the stashing would, without a doubt, lead to an OD.
You should at least get rid of the meds that are out of date. I still think you should get rid of all them, but that is up to you. You have been on Luvox and benzos for such a very long time that I doubt your psych will want to try you on anything else.
Posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2010, at 20:49:16
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on October 9, 2010, at 16:28:56
She recently gave me three months supply of sample boxes of name brand lexapro. She basically said try whatever you like. Seriously Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 13:53:13
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 9, 2010, at 20:49:16
> She recently gave me three months supply of sample boxes of name brand lexapro. She basically said try whatever you like. Seriously Phillipa
THAT IS SO IRRESPONSIBLE OF HER! She should not let you decide what you want to try. You should try what she suggests, and then see her once a week (or every 2weeks) to how you are doing on the med.
Anyway I am not going to argue with anyone about this.I think I have made my point and am ready to move on.
Posted by linkadge on October 10, 2010, at 18:38:34
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » linkadge, posted by Maxime on October 8, 2010, at 18:34:35
>Well, to be honest I have two meds tucked away >in a drawer in case I have to OD.
Incase? WTF...I would swear at you, but no.
Linkadge
Posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 18:58:33
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by linkadge on October 10, 2010, at 18:38:34
What would swearing accomplish?
Posted by morgan miller on October 10, 2010, at 23:38:39
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » linkadge, posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 18:58:33
> What would swearing accomplish?
I think Linkage did not swear partially because he knows it is would not accomplish anything.
Off topic, I think you might be better off throwing those medications out. Keeping the option around is just allowing you to hold on to the comfort of an idea that is completely unproductive to the progress you need to make. Maxime, have you been able to see a therapist? I just get the sense that you are in a place where feeling bad about yourself and suffering have become all too comfortable. I'm not saying you like feeling bad, I'm just saying that you may have become a little too accustomed to it. Do you ever remember being happy and having a healthy positive self-esteem? The thought of actually feeling good, being happy, and loving yourself may be something that scares you. If you are happy and you love yourself for who you are, then you are vulnerable to getting hurt again and losing everything. I know it's a scary thought. I think many of us are somewhat afraid of feeling good because we know we could lose it at any moment, which could be more devastating than never having it at all. Falling in love and allowing ourselves to be vulnerable in a romantic relationship is a good example of this problem. Many people are afraid to allow themselves to be vulnerable in a relationship because they have been hurt in the past and fear getting hurt again. If they find a way to not allow themselves to be vulnerable, they can prevent that feeling of loss and hurt. They may do this by choosing to be with people that they are not as drawn to romantically or people that are always busy and will not be able to spend too much time with them. The problem is , if you never allow yourself to be vulnerable, get to know yourself and what is best for you, and allow yourself to be with someone that is good for you, you will never really be able to be truly happy in a relationship. Healthy relationships and love are essential to a happy fulfilling life. Maybe I'm wrong about what I am guessing might be going on with you. I'm sorry if I've angered you in anyway with what I said.
Morgan
Posted by Maxime on October 11, 2010, at 2:00:05
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by morgan miller on October 10, 2010, at 23:38:39
I think your posts describes a lot of my life. The only part that is wrong is that there has never been a time in my life where I have been happy. Honestly. Even as a child my doctor told them that I should see a psychologist, but I guess my parents didn't want to do that, so here I am today, a total mess. I don't blame my parents for anything because what would be the point? But I am sure that if action had been taken early on, that my life would be a lot different right now.
Posted by linkadge on October 11, 2010, at 9:05:28
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by morgan miller on October 10, 2010, at 23:38:39
>Off topic, I think you might be better off >throwing those medications out.
naaa I think I'm going to hold on to them.
Linkadge
Posted by morgan miller on October 11, 2010, at 21:44:26
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » morgan miller, posted by linkadge on October 11, 2010, at 9:05:28
> >Off topic, I think you might be better off >throwing those medications out.
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> naaa I think I'm going to hold on to them.
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> LinkadgeHey man, I was talking to Maxime referring the bad stuff that she has laying around for a possible OD.
Posted by morgan miller on October 11, 2010, at 21:48:43
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what? » morgan miller, posted by Maxime on October 11, 2010, at 2:00:05
> I think your posts describes a lot of my life. The only part that is wrong is that there has never been a time in my life where I have been happy. Honestly. Even as a child my doctor told them that I should see a psychologist, but I guess my parents didn't want to do that, so here I am today, a total mess. I don't blame my parents for anything because what would be the point? But I am sure that if action had been taken early on, that my life would be a lot different right now.
>Well it's not too late to get help and so you can nurture yourself closer to where you should be at.
Most parents are far from perfect and yours may have played a role in your suffering. When you learn how your parents affected your development in therapy, you are not supposed to hold on to that and play the blame game, you are supposed to use this information to better understand why you are the way you are and so you can be more compassionate with yourself-letting yourself off the hook so that you are not hating yourself and blaming yourself for just being born "f*ck*d up"-because you were NOT simply born "f*ck*d up".
Posted by linkadge on October 12, 2010, at 17:36:27
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by morgan miller on October 11, 2010, at 21:48:43
>because you were NOT simply born "f*ck*d up".
I personally believe some of us were (refering to myself here) born "f*ck*d up".
Linkadge
Posted by morgan miller on October 12, 2010, at 17:49:55
In reply to Re: Doc, I found something that works, now what?, posted by linkadge on October 12, 2010, at 17:36:27
> >because you were NOT simply born "f*ck*d up".
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> I personally believe some of us were (refering to myself here) born "f*ck*d up".
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> LinkadgeI do agree that we can be and many of us are born predisposed to suffer in many ways. I just think that most of us would be suffering less and be much healthier if we had more of what we needed while developing.
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