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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on February 28, 2010, at 19:31:12
I need to ask, I stay in my room for long periods of time, and I'm really starting to think i'm mentally ill, but in someother way. It's like a cell I stay in, I don't move out to go talk to my parent's, this fear and dread come over me. I don't know, how to change this because this is the only safe place I feel in the house.
Imput?
Posted by Maxime on February 28, 2010, at 21:48:06
In reply to Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on February 28, 2010, at 19:31:12
I think it's part of the Aspergers Syndrome, but I could be wrong.
Posted by Phillipa on March 1, 2010, at 0:12:25
In reply to Re: Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of? » rjlockhart04-08, posted by Maxime on February 28, 2010, at 21:48:06
Are you not working anymore? Love Phillipa
Posted by evenintherain on March 1, 2010, at 16:55:04
In reply to Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on February 28, 2010, at 19:31:12
hi rj,
i do this too, i avoid my roommate whenever possible and rarely leave my bed.
for me it is just from depression and a little anxiety i think.
Posted by bleauberry on March 1, 2010, at 18:56:04
In reply to Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on February 28, 2010, at 19:31:12
I don't know what it would be called other than unhealthy. If we were to view mental illness as a monster, staying locked up is like feeding it all its favorite foods in abundance.
Even venturing out to see the others in the house doesn't count for much. Still feeding the monster. You gotta get out of the house and force yourself with all your might to go places. Anywhere. Anything. I don't think the brain is any different than your muscles, in the respect that it needs to be exercised to have any chance of avoiding deterioration.
Of course, if someone goes to the gym and begins working out hard, they aren't going to see much result in a couple weeks, maybe not even anything visible after a month. But months later, definite results and improvements. Same with the brain. It has to be worked on a regular basis, which takes force against will.
If there is some particular name that could be given to the condition of wanting to be in isolation, whatever it is will be made worse by actually following through with it.
It doesn't mattter whether you feel like it or not, you gotta get out. Actually, the more you don't want to get out, the more you should.
Posted by willey on March 2, 2010, at 5:49:39
In reply to Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on February 28, 2010, at 19:31:12
Hey guy,my opinion but i hold it strongggg,its a branch from untreated depression.Depression i doubt stays put,untreated like a wart it sprouts,how so usualy depends on the person,the severity,etc,
but one might expect from on going unsuccessful treatment,...increase in anxiety,social avoidance,
hypersomnia,insomnia,parnoria,ocd like behaviur,defensive behaviour,bouts of rage(me)and on.Your situation sounds identical to mine,ill explain how i saw it,my room i unconsiouly made a safe haven,stacked it with my survival,anything i thought i needed,pc,weights,phone,etc,i kept there.
What this did was workand what happened s i hated the room being prisoneer for 6 years,but regardless it was my safe haven,where i went.
And like u became paranoid even going ou the room that parents were eye scoping me up and down.
If i went out,at times,id have a pulling feeling back to the room,and when i got there i collapsed.
There is a way out,i know it seems impossable,i cant get in depth unless i post an entire post,but ill say it takes some very specific drugs ,ones most known for social issues,and to that it takes somone,u have to find someone u can either spend time with,or push u easly,so it takes two sides,a chemical side,and a external side.
i cant mention the drug that helped me,but parnate also did so,so i imagine u being on i believe a ssnri might waana add a dopamine med like mirapex.
I only can assume though,hope u work through it,takes a lot of time,and dont let know one push u if and when chooose to start the process of changing it.
P.S Little incentive,like u had tons of problems with moms,arguments non stop,lead to me maced and injail etc,but yet i still felt attacthed,much as i wanted away i felt like a bird not ready to leave its mother regardless of the horrid situations.
Heres the kicker,when u do get past it,in terms of finding someone to maybe move with,in short time the change is dramatic and you wont worry about mom no more,my mother eve though i paid rent and she was a house wife kicked me out in verbal terms everyday of my own home,now she calls and complains i dont call her to let her know im ok,well she had her chancei i pleaded for sympapthy and help,instead was accused of pill popping,obssesed with the term depression and so on,and funny the woman i left with said,"you watch shell do a 360 the min u are actualy gone and she relaises it,and thats what happened."
Point is,i know it doesent matter how many people make it sound so easy to leave ur mommas house,i know its like a invisable chain,but i also have to tell you its a bomb ticking man and u do need to find ur own way of seriously escaping it before lines are crossed that cant be fixed.wish u luck.
Posted by Justherself54 on March 2, 2010, at 9:32:58
In reply to Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on February 28, 2010, at 19:31:12
I would say it's untreated depression and anxiety. I am a self-isolator. My home is my haven..and it's very unhealthy. However, it does have its perks, as I've learned to put boundaries up with family and friends who don't understand.
The friends and family who have educated themselves are a support to me. In fact, I'm away staying with one who literally said "get your chain-smoking butt up here and I don't care if your dog sheds all over my house. You can't be by yourself right now." And she was right. I'm not doing well right now..I would be doing much worse if I were alone.
I resist being around people, yet I always feel better after healthy social contact.
RJ, if you have any means possible of getting into your own place, do it. That may seem like a huge step, but it may well be one of the healthiest steps you can take.
The next step is to let the friends and family who do understand or at least have educated themselves as to what your illness is all about, be a means of support. They are often the ones who know how sick you are getting before you do and the ones who see improvement when you don't.
I don't think we, as humans, are hard-wired to be alone. Yet it's a daily fight..I still want to be home alone. But home alone means I ruminate and worry without interruption. As much as I've left my safe haven, kicking and screaming, I've also realized that I can have moments of pleasure that being with others brings. This gives me hope, which keeps me going.
Right now your room is your safe haven, but one of the major stresses in your life is just a few steps from your bedroom door. You need a safe haven you can call your own and start from there, with small steps to integrate healthy supportive social contact into your life.
Sorry to ramble..haven't finished my morning coffee yet, so still foggy headed. Take care.
Posted by Phillipa on March 2, 2010, at 19:54:25
In reply to Re: Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by Justherself54 on March 2, 2010, at 9:32:58
I seriously didn't know. Love Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2010, at 13:22:18
In reply to Re: Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of? » rjlockhart04-08, posted by Maxime on February 28, 2010, at 21:48:06
I think that is...a part of it. It's just..I didnt used to be this way but I choose to stay safe, but it didnt turn to be safe because I'm miserable where I am.
I'm going to a autism therpist soon, but there's only certain times that I seem have these symptoms then they go away for a while.
Thanks
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2010, at 13:26:41
In reply to Re: Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by Phillipa on March 1, 2010, at 0:12:25
Not right now, I have to wait, the reason I could not hold the previous job at eddie bauer.. honestly I just fell apart on the sales floor, had to go the back and rethink where I was.
Usally stimuants improve work ethic, when I was working for my brother I was taking Dexedrine Spansules 60mg and that did for the concentration, but also....i would make impuslive choices of forgetting things that where vital to the court's so...there's no magic pill, exept for ... thorazine, heavy anti-psychotics that zone out abnormal behavior, they usally do the trick but i'm scared of that class of medication.
thanks
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2010, at 15:12:54
In reply to Re: Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by bleauberry on March 1, 2010, at 18:56:04
That is the most best advice I have heard, actually for this direct question. Depression...it's hard to explain but it causes you to think...just there's nothing good gonna happen. Alot times when i'm in the house I just feel isolated and I can't go anywhere, and part of that is...my choice.
Thank you so much that response.
rj
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2010, at 15:21:52
In reply to Re: Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by willey on March 2, 2010, at 5:49:39
Wow,
thanks for the response. You know...you really don't tell anyone about what kind of medication ypou take because they alway seem to say "chemical dependecy" and don't know that...it's no diffrent than takng medication for pain, or the heart and other things that help regualte the body.
Mirapex...I don't know really what the diffrence in that and amphetamine is. Stimulants alway's have seemed to help with ADHD, and depression.
Breaking away...it is like an invisable chain because it's...i don't know how I would function if I went onto the street...have to talk to social servives. I can't be optimistic, but alway be prepared for the worst and then the worst happens you have nothing to worry about because your already prepared.
Thanks willey
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2010, at 15:31:51
In reply to Re: Staying Isolated, what's this a sign of?, posted by Justherself54 on March 2, 2010, at 9:32:58
Yes....when other people call me i'm like oh - no....and feel i'm back into the social and have to socialize to people when i don't feel like it. Called having a good persona, i read on something somewhere about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorderSome of it relates to .. .maybe what's going on but I read the symptoms and I don't have much of those.
I hide myself because I know...there's no one there, but taht doesnt mean that will be that way in the future. But at least there is help here on babble.
Thanks
r
Posted by Phillipa on March 4, 2010, at 22:41:43
In reply to Re: justherself54, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2010, at 15:31:51
RJ we're all here for you. Love Phillipa
Posted by willey on March 5, 2010, at 9:24:18
In reply to Re: justherself54, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2010, at 15:31:51
Well u say something that scares me,"at least there is babble"nothing aganist babble,but for your problem,mine,in which i still am clmbing over,the internet is a double edge sword,yess it provides info u need,support at times,HOWEVER and i know this for a fact after relapse of internet strick usage,is that as long as the internet stays a close friend,brining out to a cyber world os sociality,the hard motivation to actualy prepare or plan to make real life gains,even subconsiously can spiral.
I would recomend you treat the net as both a resource,and a threat,start a plan,a layout,look at social boards social meds,picamilion,pheninut,xanax,dopamine agonists,see what helps social avoidance,make a plan that is extreme,include any resource u can possably have to a single person to either come over,and u go to them,but one who understands and wont pus,i know this isnt a option for all,but its such a crucial one,start setting goals,and learn what meds,chemicals play major roles in social avoidance/anxiety.
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