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Posted by Hundredwaters on July 7, 2009, at 19:30:09
i know the availability of agomelatine has been address, but i am having a difficult time tracking it down as the links are broken, etc. anybody have any current success in obtaining this (i am not interested in chinese-produced agomelatine given quality control issues).
also - any updates on peoples experience with it?
thanks
HW
Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2009, at 23:34:24
In reply to Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Hundredwaters on July 7, 2009, at 19:30:09
I think some people on this site are on it maybe they will chime in. Good Luck Phillipa and welcome to babble see you're new
Posted by james_ukglasgow on July 8, 2009, at 6:26:28
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine » Hundredwaters, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2009, at 23:34:24
If you can get a prescription you could order it from a pharmacy here in the UK, it has been available now under the brand name Valdoxan since 1 June. There is a website dedicated to it too which is very unusual for prescription drugs in the EU, as advertising is not permitted to the public.
Posted by Hundredwaters on July 8, 2009, at 14:36:20
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by james_ukglasgow on July 8, 2009, at 6:26:28
Thanks. I see there are some listings, but it appears to be over $100 - has anyone got it at a cheaper price than that?
Posted by Maria3667 on July 10, 2009, at 4:31:01
In reply to Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Hundredwaters on July 7, 2009, at 19:30:09
Hi HW,
My experience with Ago is very good.
As I'm very sensitive to meds, I only take a quarter of the usual dose. Never the less, the effects kick in after about 2 weeks.
Music for one is much more enjoyable. I also notice I can step over little set backs more easily. On top of that, I find it easier to loose weight (whilst dieting) and my libido is improved.
Falling asleep is also easier - but the dreams are more vivid.
Yes 100 bucks is a lot.
Is this for 1 month only??> i know the availability of agomelatine has been address, but i am having a difficult time tracking it down as the links are broken, etc. anybody have any current success in obtaining this (i am not interested in chinese-produced agomelatine given quality control issues).
>
> also - any updates on peoples experience with it?
>
> thanks
>
> HW
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 10, 2009, at 8:51:30
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine » Hundredwaters, posted by Maria3667 on July 10, 2009, at 4:31:01
> Hi HW,
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> My experience with Ago is very good.
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> As I'm very sensitive to meds, I only take a quarter of the usual dose. Never the less, the effects kick in after about 2 weeks.
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> Music for one is much more enjoyable. I also notice I can step over little set backs more easily. On top of that, I find it easier to loose weight (whilst dieting) and my libido is improved.
>
> Falling asleep is also easier - but the dreams are more vivid.
>
> Yes 100 bucks is a lot.
> Is this for 1 month only??
>
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> > i know the availability of agomelatine has been address, but i am having a difficult time tracking it down as the links are broken, etc. anybody have any current success in obtaining this (i am not interested in chinese-produced agomelatine given quality control issues).
> >
> > also - any updates on peoples experience with it?
> >
> > thanks
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> > HW
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>Do you feel more rested when you wake up? If its easier to fall asleep, but sleep is more disrupted then it isn't really all that beneficial. One of the reasons I want to try agomelatine is because of the quality sleep it's supposed to induce.
Posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 15:37:38
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 10, 2009, at 8:51:30
>Do you feel more rested when you wake up? If its easier to fall asleep, but sleep is more disrupted then it isn't really all that beneficial. One of the reasons I want to try agomelatine is because of the quality sleep it's supposed to induce.
Yes. Sleep is improved, but not through sedation. On awakening there seems to be more mental clarity. It's subtle though. The only drawback seems to be the ALT enzyme thing.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 11, 2009, at 12:01:15
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 15:37:38
> >Do you feel more rested when you wake up? If its easier to fall asleep, but sleep is more disrupted then it isn't really all that beneficial. One of the reasons I want to try agomelatine is because of the quality sleep it's supposed to induce.
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> Yes. Sleep is improved, but not through sedation. On awakening there seems to be more mental clarity. It's subtle though. The only drawback seems to be the ALT enzyme thing.Not everyone gets that though right? Also, that effect can be neglected through liver protecting agents and abstaining from drinking and a healthy life style? That was a question actually. Agomelantine seems right me for me. Gonna start it next week unless my doc for some stupid reason won't prescribe it.
Posted by Sigismund on July 12, 2009, at 1:26:34
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 11, 2009, at 12:01:15
>Not everyone gets that though right?
Not so common at 25, but moreso at 50
>Also, that effect can be neglected through liver protecting agentsWhich I shall be doing
>and abstaining from drinkingThat's a bit hard for me
>and a healthy life style?that I can do
>Agomelantine seems right me for me.It's a good drug, especially given the alternatives
>Gonna start it next week unless my doc for some stupid reason won't prescribe it.Mine did, just to make it look OK. Good luck. Don't be in a hurry to get to a high dose. Your body will adapt soon enough, certainly by the 2 month mark. The important thing is that it improves your sleep to begin with.
Posted by Bob12 on July 12, 2009, at 10:04:03
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Sigismund on July 12, 2009, at 1:26:34
What are liver protecting agents?
Bob
Posted by Hundredwaters on July 12, 2009, at 10:11:36
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Bob12 on July 12, 2009, at 10:04:03
Are you talking about N-actetylcysteine and S-adenosylmethionine?
Anybody ordering this from Europe to the US and if so - how much are you paying?
Posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2009, at 20:21:06
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Hundredwaters on July 12, 2009, at 10:11:36
I've heard milk thistle for liver. Phillipa
Posted by Avocado on July 16, 2009, at 8:24:50
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine » james_ukglasgow, posted by Hundredwaters on July 8, 2009, at 14:36:20
> Thanks. I see there are some listings, but it appears to be over $100 - has anyone got it at a cheaper price than that?
In Sweden it will cost about $60 (30 tablets)
Posted by Sigismund on July 16, 2009, at 14:44:29
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Avocado on July 16, 2009, at 8:24:50
>In Sweden it will cost about $60 (30 tablets)
That's pretty good.
Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on July 17, 2009, at 17:26:01
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Bob12 on July 12, 2009, at 10:04:03
> What are liver protecting agents?
>
> BobAlso I think Milk Thistle is one of the top liver protecting agents...
Bodybuilders sometimes take so many supplements etc. that the liver is going through havok. Most take Milk Thistle to keep the liver healthy when dealing with agents hard to breakdown.. Ive come across this year after year..
Posted by offwhite on July 30, 2009, at 5:37:48
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by Sigismund on July 16, 2009, at 14:44:29
I just started on Agomelatine prescribed by my doc here in Sweden. Full cost was exactly the equi. of 66 USD, and that's without the discount we get here in Sweden for buying multiple prescribed meds (we only pay up to equi. of 240 USD per year for prescribed meds, then the rest is free).
Have only been taking it for a night so far, how soon does the pro-sleep effects kick in?
Posted by hundredwaters on August 6, 2009, at 12:34:43
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by offwhite on July 30, 2009, at 5:37:48
What have people noticed in terms of sleep with this med? I started it a few days ago and my sleep was worse and i feel worse as well. i just increased it to 50mg last night, but no improvement and still woke up at 6am... i had been on 200mg of serzone(nefazone) prior and i guess some of this is comming off of that rapidly.
i was wondering if the beneficial sleep effect takes time to kick in from people experience??? i sure hope this thing helps.
Posted by Sigismund on August 10, 2009, at 20:17:56
In reply to Re: Availability and experience with Agomelatine, posted by hundredwaters on August 6, 2009, at 12:34:43
>i just increased it to 50mg last night
Well, more will not necessarily help you sleep better.
In fact I believe less might.
But I imagine you are looking for the AD effect.After maybe 2 weeks on it the effect changes and some NE type effect kicks in and there can be afternoon anxiety that feels physical and unlike social anxiety.
Nevertheless it can be a challenge.
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